Let's try again! Government approves NEW gulf oil well near Lousiana - Polidicks

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/02/feds-approve-new-gulf-of_n_598199.html[/url] [quote]AP) -- Federal regulators approved Wednesday the first new Gulf of Mexico oil well since President Barack Obama lifted a brief ban on drilling in shallow water, even while deepwater projects remain frozen after the massive BP spill. The Minerals Management Service granted a new drilling permit sought by Bandon Oil and Gas for a site about 50 miles off the coast of Louisiana and 115 feet below the ocean's surface. It's south of Rockefeller State Wildlife Refuge and Game Preserve, far to the west of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that triggered the BP spill. Obama last week extended a moratorium on wells in deep water like the BP one that blew out a mile below the surface in April and is gushing millions of gallons of oil. But at the same time, the president quietly allowed a three-week-old ban on drilling in shallow water to expire. "I'm outraged," said Kieran Suckling, executive director for the Tucson, Ariz.,-based Center for Biological Diversity, after a reporter told him of the new permit. "How is it that shallow water drilling suddenly became safe again?"[/quote] out of all places, let's approve it in a state where it's health, economy, and livelihood were fucked by a oil spill.

If at first you don't succeed...

Either way, we need oil.

We do need this oil, at least to sustain us until alternatives can be fully developed and implemented. The disaster in the Gulf is basically a giant sign saying "USE THE FUCKING FAIL-SAFE". Basically, we just ought to use the readily available and pretty much standard security equipment to keep this from happening again.

Heh, BOG.

There's already over 3000 rigs in the gulf, out of that only 2 have ever had a notable failure. Not to mention the offshore rigs are made differently than the deep sea rigs. The ones closer to shore have the BOP above the water on the rig itself, so something like whats happening now would be technically impossible unless the entire rig sank, in which case they could just dive down and plug the non-pressurized well. My uncles natural gas company almost went under because of the drilling ban. He had to write a letter to congress to allow them to continue offshore drilling because their rigs are entirely different than the Deepwater Horizon. Stop making such a big deal about drilling, shit happens. [editline]10:09PM[/editline] [QUOTE=dogmachines;22337271]We do need this oil, at least to sustain us until alternatives can be fully developed and implemented. The disaster in the Gulf is basically a giant sign saying "USE THE FUCKING FAIL-SAFE". Basically, we just ought to use the readily available and pretty much standard security equipment to keep this from happening again.[/QUOTE] I think it would be a good idea to have all deepsea rigs to have pre-drilled relief wells so you could avoid a catastrophic failure all together.

let's just hope transocean isn't involved in this one!

[QUOTE=wonkadonk;22337468]let's just hope transocean isn't involved in this one![/QUOTE] Transocean didn't build the rig. They buy rigs and rent them out to companies. They're like the Enterprise Rent-a-Car of the offshore industry. There are probably hundreds of Transocean rigs in the gulf.

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I'm ok with drilling oil but this is a horrible move politically. The public is stupid and has a very short attention span; they aren't going to think about it, just remember "Oil bad, Oil spill" and disaprove. The media isn't going to help as this goes against left-wing ideology a bit so no news networks will be defending him. This isn't going to end well.

On the plus side, this rig is closer to land and in shallower water. This means if there is a spill here, it will be easier to clean up than the current spill.

Exxon Valdeez (sp) didn't spell the end of oil tankers, because it's ridiculous to think one mistake should mean the end. Better safety measures are necessary, but throwing the entire venture out the window is very stupid.

If this gets approved, and this rig somehow spills too, I'm gonna cry. :saddowns: Louisiana has gone through enough.

hey guys a space shuttle blew up let's end all space endeavors

Well 115 feet isn't that deep. If this sort of shit did happen again (whatever the odds of that are) fixing it would be much easier.

[QUOTE=Amplar;22338604]hey guys a space shuttle blew up let's end all space endeavors[/QUOTE] this, basically.

[QUOTE=Luxo;22338631]Well 115 feet isn't that deep. If this sort of shit did happen again (whatever the odds of that are) fixing it would be much easier.[/QUOTE] this, basically.

[QUOTE=Kinversulath;22337216]If at first you don't succeed...[/QUOTE] ...don't try skydiving?

[QUOTE=fskman;22337223]Either way, we need oil.[/QUOTE] no, we need to take all of BPs money and invest it in alternative renewable energy and fuel sources research.

Just make sure it's not a half assed oilrig and equipent used this time, and it'll be fine.

You guys do know that the patents for alternative energy are shelved by the big oil corporations, right?

[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22340141]no, we need to take all of BPs money and invest it in alternative renewable energy and fuel sources research.[/QUOTE] Because wind power can make plastic, detergent, paint, fertilizers and fuel. As has already been mentioned, this rig is in [I]shallow water.[/I] The whole reason the horizon rig's oil flow can't be stopped is because of the depth. If it was in shallow water, the first method BP tried would have worked.

The oil industry doesn't have much to do with fertilisers since they are Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium based. At least the good ones are.

[QUOTE=petieng;22341796]Because wind power can make plastic, detergent, paint, fertilizers and fuel. As has already been mentioned, this rig is in [I]shallow water.[/I] The whole reason the horizon rig's oil flow can't be stopped is because of the depth. If it was in shallow water, the first method BP tried would have worked.[/QUOTE] I never said we should ditch oil, I just said we should fine BP into bankruptcy and use the money to invest in more environment friendly alternatives. Anything that can replace oil and is better for the environment should be used, if you disagree with this you are a waste of oxygen.

[QUOTE=OvB;22337431] Stop making such a big deal about drilling, shit happens. [editline]10:09PM[/editline] I think it would be a good idea to have all deepsea rigs to have pre-drilled relief wells so you could avoid a catastrophic failure all together.[/QUOTE] The big deal is that the same shit happened in 1978 or 79. For some reason during the past 30 years no-one got the idea to make pre-drilled relief wells mandatory as the drilling depths kept increasing - even though all attempts to plug a leak even at just some two hundred feet had failed.

[QUOTE=The golden;22345233]Seriously, what is with America's obsession with oil. I guess it makes good sex lube when they're fucking oil barrels, because it seems they love it that much.[/QUOTE] We're a big fucking country and just about everything from cars to factories to homes use oil in some form.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;22345863]We're a big fucking country and just about everything from cars to factories to homes use oil in some form.[/QUOTE] They don't [b]need[/b] oil, they should be supporting nuclear/wind/water/solar power instead of more oil drilling. Oil is of the past.

1 rig failure =/= they all will fail [editline]04:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=FPChris;22345899]They don't [b]need[/b] oil, they should be supporting nuclear/wind/water/solar power instead of more oil drilling. Oil is of the past.[/QUOTE] we need efficient plastics though [editline]04:15PM[/editline] And petrol for our cars

[QUOTE=FPChris;22345899]They don't [b]need[/b] oil, they should be supporting nuclear/wind/water/solar power instead of more oil drilling. Oil is of the past.[/QUOTE] No, we do need oil. But I agree we should [I]really[/I] start turning to the alternatives and looking at the other possibilities. Until we do, we're extremely dependent on oil.

[QUOTE=The golden;22345233]Plastic is a material which we should find an alternative to anyway. Detergent wouldn't be hard. Same with paint, find a more natural source. Fuel...this one is fucking easy, there is already technology for alternative fuel sources. We can put people and objects on far distant planets and can make robots so small they can fit in your blood veins. There is no bounds to our engineering. The world dosn't fucking stop when you take oil out of the picture. Well, it does in America. Seriously, what is with America's obsession with oil. I guess it makes good sex lube when they're fucking oil barrels, because it seems they love it that much.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22342421]I never said we should ditch oil, I just said we should fine BP into bankruptcy and use the money to invest in more environment friendly alternatives. Anything that can replace oil and is better for the environment should be used, if you disagree with this you are a waste of oxygen.[/QUOTE] My point is, we need oil whether we like it or not. Bankrupting BP would only fuck up the economy and lower oil production. It would be great if we could find alternatives for all products of oil, but that's not happening any time soon no matter how much money we throw at it. My other point is, this new rig cannot fail anywhere near as catastrophically as the BP one.