U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condems Holocaust denial, anti-semitism, at summit in Tehran. - Polidicks

[QUOTE](CNN) -- U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon condemned hostile remarks toward Israel and the denial of the Holocaust in Iran Thursday. Speaking at the Non-Aligned Summit in Tehran, the U.N. leader didn't mention the Iranian regime, but Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made a string of incendiary remarks in recent years about Israel's existence and the Nazi Germany extermination of Jews last century. [B]"I strongly reject threats by any member state to destroy another or outrageous attempts to deny historical facts, such as the Holocaust,"[/B] he said, speaking in Ahmadinejad's home turf. [B]"Claiming that another U.N. member state, Israel, does not have the right to exist, or describing it in racist terms, is not only utterly wrong but undermines the very principles we have all pledged to uphold."[/B] Ahmadinejad has denied the Holocaust over the years and has been a strident opponent of Israel's existence. During a recent speech in Tehran, Ahmadinejad called for unity among all human beings to remove the Zionist "black stain" from the human society, Iranian media reported. [B]"I urge all (Non-Aligned Movement) members to work within the principles of the U.N. Charter to resolve disputes peacefully,"[/B] Ban said. "But it is not sufficient to focus on lowering tensions between (Non-Aligned Movement) countries, as important as that is. We must prevent conflict between all U.N. member states." Ban had been discouraged by the United States from attending the meeting, seen as a propaganda stage for the Iranian regime. But the secretary-general says the United Nations has a "close history" and shared principles with Non-Aligned Movement, made up of nations that claim not to be aligned with any world power. "Assuming the leadership of the NAM provides Iran with the opportunity to demonstrate that it can play a moderate and constructive role internationally. That includes responsible action on the nuclear program which is among the top concerns of the international community," Ban said. Iran's nuclear aspirations have been a top issue for the United States and other Western nations. The United States, along with other permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, have engaged in discussions with Iran this year about its nuclear program. Western countries believe Tehran is intent on building nuclear weapons. Iran claims the program is only for civilian medical and energy purposes. "For the sake of peace and security in this region and globally, I urge the government of Iran to take the necessary measures to build international confidence in the exclusively peaceful nature of its nuclear program," Ban said. Earlier at the summit, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei defended his country's right to produce nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. "The Islamic Republic of Iran considers the use of nuclear, chemical and similar weapons as a great and unforgivable sin," Khamenei said. "This does not mean forgoing our right to peaceful use of nuclear power and production of nuclear fuel," he said. "On the basis of international laws, peaceful use of nuclear energy is a right of every country." While defending his nation's nuclear program, Khamenei took jabs at the United States. "A bitter irony of our era is that the U.S. government, which possesses the largest and deadliest stockpiles of nuclear arms and other weapons of mass destruction and the only country guilty of its use, is today eager to carry the banner of opposition to nuclear proliferation," he said. Earlier this month, the U.S. Congress passed a package of sanctions aimed at Iran's nuclear program. Khamenei also criticized the U.N. Security Council, calling it a "flagrant form of dictatorship" that is not fair to some nations. [B]"The U.N. Security Council has an illogical, unjust and completely undemocratic structure and mechanism," he said. "... It is through abusing this improper mechanism that America and its accomplices have managed to disguise their bullying as noble concepts and impose it on the world."[/B] The summit is scheduled to end Friday.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/world/meast/iran-khamenei-speech/index.html?hpt=hp_t3"]Source[/URL]

afaik they never denied the holocaust, why do people keep repeatedly making this misunderstanding after its been confirmed as a mistranslation and a misunderstanding over and over.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37469036]afaik they never denied the holocaust, why do people keep repeatedly making this misunderstanding after its been confirmed as a mistranslation and a misunderstanding over and over.[/QUOTE] Because ratings. And pageviews.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37469036]afaik they never denied the holocaust, why do people keep repeatedly making this misunderstanding after its been confirmed as a mistranslation and a misunderstanding over and over.[/QUOTE] really? I was unaware it was a mistranslation.

[URL="http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2005/12/200849154418141136.html"]http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2005/12/200849154418141136.html[/URL] Even had a holocaust denial party right in Iran [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust#Conclusions"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust#Conclusions[/URL]

I would think the UN has the best of the best though.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;37469130]I would think the UN has the best of the best though.[/QUOTE]They do, it was news companies that mistranslated one of Ahmadinejad's speeches on state television.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;37469146]They do, it was news companies that mistranslated one of Ahmadinejad's speeches on state television.[/QUOTE] Probably MEMRI. [editline]30th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Disotrtion;37469128][URL="http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2005/12/200849154418141136.html"]http://www.aljazeera.com/archive/2005/12/200849154418141136.html[/URL] Even had a holocaust denial party right in Iran [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust#Conclusions"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Conference_to_Review_the_Global_Vision_of_the_Holocaust#Conclusions[/URL][/QUOTE] Al-Jazeera did a interview about a couple months ago when all the Iran-west spring tension was going on with a Israeli politician and they criticized him for saying Iran denied the holocaust and even backed up their claims on camera. The article you linked is from 2005, the current day is 2012.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37469036]afaik they never denied the holocaust, why do people keep repeatedly making this misunderstanding after its been confirmed as a mistranslation and a misunderstanding over and over.[/QUOTE] Uh, no. Just last week Trolladinejad outright said the Holocaust was the HOLOHOAX!1! and that WWI and WWII was a plot by Zionists to garner sympathy for their project. Couple that with many other occurrences outside that time it was "mistranslated" (well, technically, it was) that the Iranian regime has said outlandish statements about Jews and the Holocaust, and we can grade Iran an A+ in the Conspiratard rating. For instance~ [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4O0ZYfY_pQk/TzFPDDtwukI/AAAAAAAASKQ/RIKfzxJxcAg/s1600/faurisson.jpg[/img] Trolladinejad giving the French intellectual giant Robert "GAZ CHAMBERS? NOPE" Faurisson a prize at a conference on "Hollywoodian Decadence and the Holocaust". Or, its alternate title, HOLLYWOOD IS AN EVIL JOO MEDIA.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37469195]Probably MEMRI.[/QUOTE] It was.

[QUOTE=Chernarus;37469195] The article you linked is from 2005, the current day is 2012.[/QUOTE] So? He still continues to deny the holocaust happened to this day. He's had a conference in Iran to find the "truth", wrote a letter to Angela Merkel explaining that the Holocaust is a "hoax", and denied the holocaust in a speech at the UN that prompted walkouts (while simultaneously claiming that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US, and a Zionist plot). I don't get what you are trying to do? Are you trying to say he is not a denier? Because there is overwhelming proof that he is.

[QUOTE=Disotrtion;37469554]and denied the holocaust in a speech at the UN that prompted walkouts (while simultaneously claiming that 9/11 was perpetrated by the US, and a Zionist plot). [/QUOTE] Uhm no he didn't. [editline]30th August 2012[/editline] [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/24/world/24nations.html?_r=1[/URL] Read the small print: [B][I] Correction: September 25, 2010 [/I][/B] A headline on Friday with an article about an incendiary speech in the United Nations General Assembly by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran summarized his remarks about the Sept. 11 terror attacks incorrectly. In his speech, Mr. Ahmadinejad asserted various theories about the origin of the attacks, including the possibility that they had been planned by the United States. [B]He did not say that the United States had planned the attacks.[/B] [editline]30th August 2012[/editline] Which begs the question, how widely known is this "correction"? And I'm not sure where you got the Holocaust part from in his speech, all he said was they use it until this day to justify the oppression in Palestine.

[B]September 22, 2011[/B] [QUOTE]"Who used the mysterious September 11 incident as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, killing, injuring, and displacing millions in two countries with the ultimate goal of bringing into its domination the Middle East and its oil resources? ... If some European countries still use the Holocaust, after six decades, as the excuse to pay fine or ransom to the Zionists, should it not be an obligation upon the slave masters or colonial powers to pay reparations to the affected nations? ... By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military action … Last year, when the need to form a fact-finding team to undertake a thorough investigation concerning the hidden elements involved in September 11 incident was brought up; an idea also endorsed by all independent governments and nations as well as by the majority in the United States, my country and myself came under pressure and threat by the government of the United States. Instead of assigning a fact-finding team, they killed the main perpetrator and threw his body into the sea. Would it not have been reasonable to bring to justice and openly bring to trial the main perpetrator of the incident in order to identify the elements behind the safe space provided for the invading aircraft to attack the twin world trade towers? Why should it not have been allowed to bring him to trial to help recognize those who launched terrorist groups and brought wars and other miseries into the region? ... They view Zionism as a sacred notion and ideology. Any question concerning its very foundation and history is condemned by them as an unforgivable sin. However they endorse and allow sacrileges and insult against beliefs of other divine religions." [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] European countries still use the Holocaust after six decades as the excuse to pay (a) fine or ransom to the Zionists.[/QUOTE] Holocaust is a "excuse"

So could you underline the parts in that paragraph where he explicitly denied the holocaust and 9/11? [quote]"Who used the mysterious September 11 incident as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq, killing, injuring, and displacing millions in two countries with the ultimate goal of bringing into its domination the Middle East and its oil resources? [/quote] He's saying the U.S. uses 9/11 as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He's right. [quote]If some European countries still use the Holocaust, after six decades, as the excuse to pay fine or ransom to the Zionists, should it not be an obligation upon the slave masters or colonial powers to pay reparations to the affected nations? [/quote] He's saying if they still use the Holocaust as a justification for Palestinian oppression, shouldn't the European countries (i.e. Germany) be the ones paying the price for it, not the Palestinians? He's right. [quote] By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military action Last year, when the need to form a fact-finding team to undertake a thorough investigation concerning the hidden elements involved in September 11 incident was brought up; an idea also endorsed by all independent governments and nations as well as by the majority in the United States, my country and myself came under pressure and threat by the government of the United States. Instead of assigning a fact-finding team, they killed the main perpetrator and threw his body into the sea. Would it not have been reasonable to bring to justice and openly bring to trial the main perpetrator of the incident in order to identify the elements behind the safe space provided for the invading aircraft to attack the twin world trade towers? Why should it not have been allowed to bring him to trial to help recognize those who launched terrorist groups and brought wars and other miseries into the region?[/quote] There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. He's saying his country and himself came under pressure and threat by government of the U.S. for the Sept. 11 attacks (and its true, there's countless "news" stories "revealing" that Iran was somehow responsible for 9/11) So in response to this, he suggests a completely rational suggestion, bring Osama to trial to found out who launched those attacks and find out which elements were responsible. [editline]30th August 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Disotrtion;37469798]Holocaust is a "excuse"[/QUOTE] Except IT IS to many proponents of Israel. The Holocaust card is summoned in nearly every instance of Israel advocacy.

[QUOTE][B]mysterious[/B] September 11 incident[/QUOTE] Right off the bat he's saying the attacks are "mysterious". Fucking ridiculous. [QUOTE] thorough investigation concerning the hidden elements involved in September 11 incident was brought up; an idea also endorsed by all independent governments and nations as well as by the [B]majority in the United States[/B], my country and myself came under pressure and threat by the government of the United States.[/QUOTE] He's showing up the U.S.'s investigation (from 2002-2004) because he wants to search for "hidden elements involved". Also "majority of in the US", he's talking about the US's massive 9/11 truther community which is not a majority but a large part of the population. Also he saying his country is under pressure and threat cause of their alternative views on 9/11, completely ignoring the entire Iranian nuclear program controversy which is the reason for US pressure and threats. He's establishing a persecution complex to gain sympathy. [QUOTE]Instead of assigning a fact-finding team, they killed the main perpetrator and threw his body into the sea.[/QUOTE] We did assign a fact finding team, many years before this speech. Why does he insist on more investigations? Does he consider the 9/11 commission report illegitimate? [QUOTE] to identify the [B]elements behind the safe space provided for the invading aircraft[/B] to attack the twin world trade towers? [/QUOTE] Essentially "who allowed the aircraft to hit the towers". [QUOTE]If some European countries still use the Holocaust, after six decades, as the excuse to pay fine or ransom to the Zionists, should it not be an obligation upon the slave masters or colonial powers to pay reparations to the affected nations?[/QUOTE] What? He's not talking about Palestine at all, he's accusing Europe (i.e. Germany) of using the Holocaust as an excuse to funnel money to Israel. He's insinuating the cash is not deserved, or not owed.

I've heard so many times that Ahmadinejad denied holocaust and didn't think of Israel as a valid nation, so it's nice to see they finally said something.

[QUOTE=Starpluck;37469896]So could you underline the parts in that paragraph where he explicitly denied the holocaust and 9/11? So in response to this, he suggests a completely rational suggestion, bring Osama to trial to found out who launched those attacks and find out which elements were responsible. [/QUOTE] That could be swift talk to missinterpret the "we didn't want to make him a martyr" reasoning they gave. Just saying.