Locked/non-K Intel Skylake CPU overclocking is possible, with ASRock Z170 motherboards getting an up
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[url]http://www.techspot.com/review/1108-intel-locked-skylake-cpu-bclk-overclocking/[/url]
[quote=TechSpot]It feels like forever ago now but there was a time when you could buy a reasonably affordable Intel processor like the Core i5-750 and overclock the snot out of it to achieve Core i7 level performance. That was 2009, and it was the last time you could overclock a non-K Intel processor or a Core i3 processor of any specification (until now, but bear with us).
In 2011 Sandy Bridge stormed onto the scene, spelling the death of CPU overclocking as we knew it. If you wanted to overclock a Core i5 processor you needed to purchase the 2500K for $216, which was a little more expensive than its equivalent non-K model (about $12 at the time) and a little over 20% more expensive than the most affordable Sandy Bridge Core i5.
Even Core i7 processors suffered the same fate. Sandy Bridge came in just two flavors, a locked 2600 for $294 or an unlocked 2600K for $317. Both ran at 3.4GHz but the unlocked model could be easily pushed to 4.5GHz, an effortless 32% frequency bump.
On the other hand, the really affordable Sandy Bridge Core i3 models ($117 to $138) never received an unlocked K model and this has remained true from the second-generation Core release all the way to the current sixth-gen series.
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Skylake launched this year with the rumor of strong non-K processor overclocking through an adjustable base clock, but that never eventuated. At that point we'd even settle for another unlocked Pentium that pushed the $64 G4400 past its 3.3GHz clock speed, which would be a budget builders dream on an equally affordable motherboard.
Well dream no more! In overclocking circles it was persisted that BCLK (base clock) overclocking might become a possibility in Skylake processors, but it would be up to motherboard manufacturers to circumvent Intel's restrictions. Last night Asrock contacted us to say it has an updated BIOS that enables this condition and we've jumped at the opportunity to test and confirm this.
Asrock has worked some of its magic and has enabled base clock overclocking on all non-K Skylake-S processors. That is, any Asrock Z170 motherboard will be able to overclock the Pentium G4400, G4500, G4520, Core i3-6100, i3-6300, i3-6320, Core i5-6400, i5-6500, i5-6600 and Core i7-6700 above their default operating frequency.[/quote]
Dhenzjhen got this going a bit ago with an H170 board.
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how powerful are skylake CPU's? anyways?
and would it even be slightly worth it to upgrade from a Intel Core i5 4670K to anything similarly priced?
[QUOTE=J!NX;49298977]how powerful are skylake CPU's? anyways?
and would it even be slightly worth it to upgrade a Intel Core i5 4670K to anything similarly priced?[/QUOTE]
No
[QUOTE=J!NX;49298977]speaking of CPU's, how powerful are skylake CPU's?
and would it even be slightly worth it to upgrade a Intel Core i5 4670K?[/QUOTE]
Hell no, not from Haswell
I'm probably getting a 4790k....good choice?
So I'm currently running a I5-2500k, I was looking at the I7-6700K or the I7 Haswell-E thoughts?
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49299055]unless you need extra threads or even cores
just don't[/QUOTE]
Mostly gaming, so I'm gonna go with the 6700k. I was just wondering, I saw a lot of people doing benchmarks with the 6 core. THought it was a bit odd, but.
[QUOTE=MR-X;49299065]Mostly gaming, so I'm gonna go with the 6700k. I was just wondering, I saw a lot of people doing benchmarks with the 6 core. THought it was a bit odd, but.[/QUOTE]
I don't really understand your point of swapping out a 2500k for a 6700k when all you're going to be using it for is gaming.
The 2500k is still amazingly good for gaming in general, if you want some additional threads and shit just get second hand sandy i7 or something, it'll be cheaper than having to replace everything.
Unless you're a tech freek who must have the newest of everything, there really is no point of upgrading to a skylake cpu currently.
Oh and to add, the i5-2500k and skylakes don't use the same socket, so you'll have to shell out more for a new motherboard and because skylake boards tend to only support DDR4 now, you'll have to shell out for new memory.
It's, pointless.
[QUOTE=MR-X;49299065]Mostly gaming, so I'm gonna go with the 6700k. I was just wondering, I saw a lot of people doing benchmarks with the 6 core. THought it was a bit odd, but.[/QUOTE]
if you're thinking about it because of extra cores, most games probably don't even see a performance boost with anything higher than 2 cores
tbh unless you need the cores for anything realistic even going above 4 cores is pretty useless
not to say it's totally pointless to do, of course
[QUOTE=Reagy;49299105]Oh and to add, the i5-2500k and skylakes don't use the same socket, so you'll have to shell out more for a new motherboard and because skylake boards tend to only support DDR4 now, you'll have to shell out for new memory.
It's, pointless.[/QUOTE]
I thought Skylake supports DDR3 and 4?
[QUOTE=TheJoker;49299133]I thought Skylake supports DDR3 and 4?[/QUOTE]
Skylake does support DDR3 and 4 but most motherboards made with it's socket only support DDR4, its a forceful push to get the new memory out there. But it's kind of backfired as there is no point in buying DDR4 memory, a Skylake board and a new CPU when Sandy, Ivy and Devils Canyon still perform basically the same as Skylake.
Look at it this way, it's been 5 generations since the 2500k and the only performance increase we see with Skylake is basically 10% speed. 5 generations and it's only a bit faster than one from 2011, while its less power hungry it doesn't really show as a viable upgrade when you can just juice up the older generation cpus to meet the same stock speeds that a Skylake can do, plus the Skylakes are shit overclockers compared to Sandy.
Is it worth upgrading to this series from a 3570 locked/non-K?
If not, what would be a good upgrade? I'm looking to have an i7, and my motherboard only supports up to 3xxx, meaning I'll be getting a new one so my CPU choice won't be limited.
I love my 6600k but I definitely wouldn't recommend jumping to it if you're on any reasonably decent modern build.
However it runs really really cool and it's REALLY dependable when overclocking. I think I definitely got my money's worth when I bought my 6600k for $250 and turned it up to 4.4 GHz on a Hyper 212 EVO. Highest temperature recorded even with heavy stress tests is 51 C.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49299229]I love my 6600k but I definitely wouldn't recommend jumping to it if you're on any reasonably decent modern build.
However it runs really really cool and it's REALLY dependable when overclocking. I think I definitely got my money's worth when I bought my 6600k for $250 and turned it up to 4.4 GHz on a Hyper 212 EVO. Highest temperature recorded even with heavy stress tests is 51 C.[/QUOTE]
On just air? Holy shit
[QUOTE=TheAdmiester;49299203]Is it worth upgrading to this series from a 3570 locked/non-K?
If not, what would be a good upgrade? I'm looking to have an i7, and my motherboard only supports up to 3xxx, meaning I'll be getting a new one so my CPU choice won't be limited.[/QUOTE]
What specifically are you planning to do to with that i7? I personally wouldn't reccomend an i7 unless you're doing something like video editing or some other task that can make use of hyperthreading / tons of cores. If you're looking for something like gaming, the i5 6600k is honestly perfect. Hell, I edit video myself and I can play my creations back at full speed in After Effects with my 6600k
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49299229]I love my 6600k but I definitely wouldn't recommend jumping to it if you're on any reasonably decent modern build.
However it runs really really cool and it's REALLY dependable when overclocking. I think I definitely got my money's worth when I bought my 6600k for $250 and turned it up to 4.4 GHz on a Hyper 212 EVO. Highest temperature recorded even with heavy stress tests is 51 C.[/QUOTE]
My 2500k at 4.5 barely goes over 55c under heavy stress. v:v:v
[QUOTE=Reagy;49299249]My 2500k at 4.5 barely goes over 55c under heavy stress. v:v:v[/QUOTE]
Which cooler?
[QUOTE=Reagy;49299249]My 2500k at 4.5 barely goes over 55c under heavy stress. v:v:v[/QUOTE]
My 4770k gets a touch hot at 5...
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49299272]Which cooler?[/QUOTE]
be quiet! Dark Rock ADVANCED C1 with a Noctua NF-F12PWM on the side of it, because the original fan motor burned out.
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49299135]only certain boards will actually support the ddr3 module
majority of them are ddr4[/QUOTE]
Even then most of the DDR3 and DDR4 boards are only DDR3L
[QUOTE=MR-X;49299049]So I'm currently running a I5-2500k, I was looking at the I7-6700K or the I7 Haswell-E thoughts?[/QUOTE]
I'm still on my 4.5GHz i5-2500k and have absolutely no reason to upgrade.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;49300268]I'm still on my 4.5GHz i5-2500k and have absolutely no reason to upgrade.[/QUOTE]
it's been 4.5 years since I built this computer with a 2500k and I might get a pascal video card MAYBE, marking 5 years for one upgrade
is this what being cannibalized by the mobile market looks like?
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;49300469]it's been 4.5 years since I built this computer with a 2500k and I might get a pascal video card MAYBE, marking 5 years for one upgrade
is this what being cannibalized by the mobile market looks like?[/QUOTE]
This is what being limited by silicon and copper looks like.
but if they had the right kind of demand to drive the R&D needed would that really be a limitation
[QUOTE=~Kiwi~v2;49299070]and pay almost $700? dude no go 6600K if you're going to skylake at least... you'll save $300 with the price the way it is right now[/QUOTE]
It isn't 700 for me, I can get it for 300-400.
[QUOTE=Reagy;49299096]I don't really understand your point of swapping out a 2500k for a 6700k when all you're going to be using it for is gaming.
The 2500k is still amazingly good for gaming in general, if you want some additional threads and shit just get second hand sandy i7 or something, it'll be cheaper than having to replace everything.
Unless you're a tech freek who must have the newest of everything, there really is no point of upgrading to a skylake cpu currently.[/QUOTE]
If I'm going to upgrade I'm going to do it right so I don't have to deal with it for a while.
I'm planning on getting a 6600k, 980 TI, 32gb of DDR4. etc
I'm currently running a amd 9870, 8gb of ddr 3, and the I5-2500k. It is starting to show it age honestly.
[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49299241]What specifically are you planning to do to with that i7? I personally wouldn't reccomend an i7 unless you're doing something like video editing or some other task that can make use of hyperthreading / tons of cores. If you're looking for something like gaming, the i5 6600k is honestly perfect. Hell, I edit video myself and I can play my creations back at full speed in After Effects with my 6600k[/QUOTE]
I do edit videos quite a lot, but my main problem is that I can tell I'm CPU limited on GTA 5 and Just Cause 3. When any large amount of traffic is on screen, my performance takes a dive. It's not just a matter of the polygons on screen but the AI for each car that's killing it.
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