• Before the Flood - Full Movie | National Geographic
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I am so surprised they even mentioned the issue with animal agriculture, more so to even breach the subject that they showed how a plant-based diet would be vastly superior and a very easy change to implement. It starts around 51:00. Keep in mind, they didn't even mention the amount of water it takes and the transportation of meat. [img]http://i.imgur.com/4IWy50s.png[/img] The orange and yellow bars are for feed for livestock.
That was a fantastic documentary. I really hope that it helps further spread awareness.
This is the documentary that Trent Reznor did the soundtrack for, right? This is fantastic. [editline]30th October 2016[/editline] Yup! [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwwQ4uVGGSE[/media]
[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;51283982]That was a fantastic documentary. I really hope that it helps further spread awareness.[/QUOTE] Honestly I don't know how much a doc like this can help. I feel like pretty much everyone has made up their minds at this point. Most people have accepted the situation. Some still deny. Awareness is all well and good but what it really matter if leadership is still fubar?
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;51284225]Honestly I don't know how much a doc like this can help. I feel like pretty much everyone has made up their minds at this point. Most people have accepted the situation. Some still deny. Awareness is all well and good but what it really matter if leadership is still fubar?[/QUOTE] Leadership isn't really fubar'd though, at least not completely, several of the world leaders are taking more and more measurements to prevent this situation from getting more out of hand than it already is.
[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;51284225]Honestly I don't know how much a doc like this can help. I feel like pretty much everyone has made up their minds at this point. Most people have accepted the situation. Some still deny. Awareness is all well and good but what it really matter if leadership is still fubar?[/QUOTE] As it said in the documentary, politicians just need to feel the pressure from the public. Things like this do help with that.
[QUOTE=Morgen;51284365]As it said in the documentary, politicians just need to feel the pressure from the public. Things like this do help with that.[/QUOTE] You might be right. I'm very pessimistic when it comes to government.
Anybody catch the [sp]wilhelm scream?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Kaelnukem;51283594]Keep in mind, they didn't even mention the amount of water it takes and the transportation of meat. [img]http://i.imgur.com/4IWy50s.png[/img] The orange and yellow bars are for feed for livestock.[/QUOTE] That specific graph doesn't mean anything though. It just shows that a lot of crops are grown for livestock consumption, not how efficient it is. If you want to show that meat production uses up a lot of water you should show a graph that compares the amount of water used per kilo of food or per calories, something like this: [t]http://i.imgur.com/2ViomfQ.png[/t]
cows were a mistake
This is an incredible little film, and is incredibly important. I know it's a lot to sit through but it's worth it.
There's 131 deniers in Congress and 38 in the Senate, all republican of course. What the fuck.
Through out the first 45-55mins I thought it was only going to point out problems, but they eventually start offering some solutions. I was reminded chicken at least is a tiny bit more eco-friendly. I think I've noticed as soon as I really started hearing solid points on the eco issues from beef, I subconciously started eating less meat. I don't know if I'll ever buy in to the vegan/vegetarian diet, I think that has its own issues. Sort of leaves you malnourished in most cases. Probably because most don't do it [I]right[/I]. Another thing that bugged me was the forest fires in the name of palm oil. I just started working for Frito-lay, which is a child company under Pepsico. I'm just distribution, so by the time it reaches me, it's too late sort of speak. But I will say I noticed that brands like Doritos, and other highly processed chips (I mean they all are processed, but I mean the especially processed ones) frequently have more popped bags. Whether that's just disgruntled transporters, or it's actually a deeper problem, I don't know. But I'm beginning to hypothesize why. There can't be that kind of consistency with no cause. Again, it could just be poor employee treatment, but it could also be workers that hate the product. I still believe one of the biggest factors in general is energy. We need to switch over, in more than one sector, to renewable and clean energy. Even if transportation goes electric, we still need cleaner methods of generating electricity. So that's what I advocate more than anything, although there are still several great solutions in development that will help us clean up the Earth. Solar and wind definitely have their places, although I keep hearing that even those are not ideal. One very interesting prospect that I heard via Inside Man (Morgan Spurlock show through CNN), is that we could start sanctioning trash incinerators to generate electricity, instead of just putting it in fucking landfills. The CEO of Waste Management said the main reason he can't fully convert to that is that they need sanctions, elsewise the company would come close to going under. Another stupid case of [I]it costs too much[/I]! I think there are some real, tangible efforts that can be made, that will be steps towards the bigger changes we really need. I'm still one of the optimists, unlike Leo. He kept questioning how so many of them could still think there is a chance, which I can still understand where he's coming from. We've got to try, and not get soo emotional and pessimistic to think we can't improve.
Watching this makes me want to visit Greenland and the rain forests before they all fucking disappear in 20 years
Although I understand the principles of a lot of Republicans who believe that legislation could easily result in destroying small agricultural business (as it has here in California), its absurd that a large portion think climate change is a myth.
From what I'm reading online the only really big-ish thing people were negative about was the Chinook winds thing for Alberta winters, which is reasonable. Really liked the documentary though!
[QUOTE=Prez;51293968]From what I'm reading online the only really big-ish thing people were negative about was the Chinook winds thing for Alberta winters, which is reasonable. Really liked the documentary though![/QUOTE] Yeah, the Chinooks have been around forever, although I'll admit they do feel like apocalyptic global warming if you're not used to them.
Now that Trump has won, I'm thinking back on this Documentary and wondering what could have been. :( Trump wants to withdraw payments in the billions that were supposed to be used for the Paris Agreement, and has a Climate Change skeptic for his proposed Head of Energy. Most of the solutions put forth in the video will be futile without greater commitments from our government, and as the video says, other nations look to the US as an example in terms of the practicality of implementing Green Energy. Enjoy what we have while we still have it. Our time here is ever fleeting. [video=youtube;A3yCcXgbKrE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3yCcXgbKrE[/video]
I thought putting sea weed in the cattle diet fixed the methane issues? I haven't watched it yet, maybe tomorrow.
[QUOTE=TheNerdPest14;51351485]I thought putting sea weed in the cattle diet fixed the methane issues? I haven't watched it yet, maybe tomorrow.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter; Trump is voluntarily going out of his way to prioritize extended use of coal, oil, etc for energy sources. The Methane issue won't make a significant difference in the long run if the other issues like reliance on fossil fuels and coal aren't also addressed.
Video is private.
[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=codqzJ4onGc[/media] This the same one?
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