Protesters and police clash over nuclear waste train. - Polidicks

[i]via:[/i]BBC [release] Activists in northern Germany have been fighting running battles with police, trying to halt a train carrying nuclear waste from France. Officers used batons, pepper spray, tear gas and water cannon to disperse at least 1,000 protesters who were trying to sabotage railway tracks. The protesters hurled fireworks and set a police car on fire near Dannenberg. Earlier, the train was halted after activists lowered themselves on ropes from a bridge over the tracks. Sunday's clashes took place near Dannenberg - the final destination for the train before the waste is loaded onto lorries and taken to a storage facility. A police spokesman was quoted by the AFP news agency as saying that "there were arrests and people injured but I am not able to say how many". The spokesman added that some of the protesters appeared to be "members of the anarchist scene, who threw flares and fired tear gas at police". About a dozen protesters were injured, demonstrators were quoted as saying by local media reports. One of the activists was quoted by the AFP as saying that the woods around the train tracks were "completely clouded with tear gas". Sunday's clashes followed peaceful protests against the train on Saturday by tens of thousands of people. 'Not safe' The train, made up of 14 wagons containing 123 tonnes of reprocessed nuclear waste in glass and steel containers, is heading to a storage site in Gorleben, northern Germany. Activists maintain that neither the waste containers nor the site are safe. The BBC's Berlin correspondent Stephen Evans says that the plan is to transfer the waste to lorries for the final part of the journey but the police and protesters are now trying to outmanoeuvre each other in the countryside along the route. Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to extend the lifespan of Germany's 17 nuclear power plants despite strong public opposition has highlighted the issue of the waste trains.[/release] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/11706115]Source[/url] I'm sorry, but ALL ABOARD THE NUKE TRAIN BABY!!!!!

I wouldn't go near that thing, Radioactivity. EDIT: Even without radioactivity, its just dumb.

hey i know, let's try and make a train carrying dangerous nuclear material crash! [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Steven :D;25922874]I wouldn't go near that thing, Radioactivity.[/QUOTE] It's probably in a lead container, it's not like they'd want people to get cancer

Save the environment, crash a nuclear waste train. Makes perfect sense.

[QUOTE=Steven :D;25922874]I wouldn't go near that thing, Radioactivity.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHtOW-OBO4[/media] You, and all these people, have no reason to be afraid.

Have you seen those containers? The nuclear waste containers that they use on the trains can survive plenty of impact damage. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mHtOW-OBO4[/media] And this is an old video. The technology has gotten much better. It's ridiculous to be afraid of these leaking waste. Dammit T2L_Goose, you ninja!

[QUOTE=Steven :D;25922874]I wouldn't go near that thing, Radioactivity. EDIT: Even without radioactivity, its just dumb.[/QUOTE] Nuclear waste is transported in containers that are lined with at least 3 cm of lead, enough to cut the particles released to the environment by at least half - 3 quarters. It is then encased in concrete to further strengthen it and reduce particle release. People have to stop being so fucking stupid about nuclear power and waste management, it's fucking retarded, fuck there weren't even that many deaths from chernobyl and people bitch about it, and even now, after multiple super improved reactor designs people still think it's somehow relevant. Nuclear power = Good. End of discussion.

Also that shit about the containers being glass sounds like bullshit to me. They don't transport nuclear waste in glass containers. I'm pretty sure it's globally mandatory that you have to transport any form of nuclear waste in the giant steel flasks that are in the video.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25923135]Nuclear waste is transported in containers that are lined with at least 3 cm of lead, enough to cut the particles released to the environment by at least half - 3 quarters. It is then encased in concrete to further strengthen it and reduce particle release. People have to stop being so fucking stupid about nuclear power and waste management, it's fucking retarded, fuck there weren't even that many deaths from chernobyl and people bitch about it, and even now, after multiple super improved reactor designs people still think it's somehow relevant. Nuclear power = Good. End of discussion.[/QUOTE] Well Chernobyl was a pretty awful event, and the worst industrial nuclear accident ever but it was due to purposeful human error. The technicians knew the core was under too much strain. No sane engineer would ever do that again.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25923135]Nuclear waste is transported in containers that are lined with at least 3 cm of lead, enough to cut the particles released to the environment by at least half - 3 quarters. It is then encased in concrete to further strengthen it and reduce particle release. People have to stop being so fucking stupid about nuclear power and waste management, it's fucking retarded, fuck there weren't even that many deaths from chernobyl and people bitch about it, and even now, after multiple super improved reactor designs people still think it's somehow relevant. Nuclear power = Good. End of discussion.[/QUOTE] It's not so much about people dying. I think it is more about nothing can ever live there for the next...many many years.

I thought we would be past the "OMG NUKLEAR POWER KILL EVERYTHING", people just link "nuclear" to the bombs. Should we have only coal and oil instead? That would really be dangerous. Want "green" (that word pisses me off) energy? Then sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up and accept the 20%+ increase in taxes so that there is enough money to build them.

It's like a portable fallout shelter.

[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;25923220]Also that shit about the containers being glass sounds like bullshit to me. They don't transport nuclear waste in glass containers. I'm pretty sure it's globally mandatory that you have to transport any form of nuclear waste in the giant steel flasks that are in the video.[/QUOTE] Yeah it is, after chernobyl and three mile island everyone went fucking mental over anything nuclear and if it can't handle being launched into the sun then it isn't used.

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;25923278]Well Chernobyl was a pretty awful event, and the worst industrial nuclear accident ever but it was due to purposeful human error. The technicians knew the core was under too much strain. No sane engineer would ever do that again.[/QUOTE] Not to mention that Chernobyl had fewer safety measures than any power plant ever built in the US.

[QUOTE=bravehat;25923345]Yeah it is, after chernobyl and three mile island everyone went fucking mental over anything nuclear and if it can't handle being launched into the sun then it isn't used.[/QUOTE] I don't get why people bitch over Three Mile Island; everything went right with that. An accident happened, and it was handled well.

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;25923278]Well Chernobyl was a pretty awful event, and the worst industrial nuclear accident ever but it was due to purposeful human error. The technicians knew the core was under too much strain. No sane engineer would ever do that again.[/QUOTE] They didn't do it on purpose. The crew that was brought in was a skeleton crew that knew nothing about nuclear reactors. They had to do some tests that were put off for months. They didn't know what they were doing. Not to mention the Chernobyl reactors were USSR made pieces of shit.

[QUOTE=Canned Induvidual;25923280]It's not so much about people dying. I think it is more about nothing can ever live there for the next...many many years.[/QUOTE] Wrong, groups of people moved back into the exclusion zone and are living in their old homes. Besides, tarmac doesn't retain radiation for long, same with concrete and similar man made structures, priyapat would be relatively safe to live in if you grew food in your own home and the structures were maintained.

but bravehat haven't you played stalker??? the mutants!

[QUOTE=fenwick;25923392]Not to mention that Chernobyl had fewer safety measures than any power plant ever built in the US.[/QUOTE] And not mention the guys running willingly deactivated safety measures to simulate a worst case scenario. Nuclear power is safe, there are instant killswitches in every modern plant that kill the reaction stone dead and then the chamber is safe enough to just about fucking walk through.

NUCLEAR POWER IS EVIL IN THE LAST 60 YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN AS MANY AS TWO ACCIDENTS IN THE WORLD AND ONE WAS A RELEASE OF GAS THAT KILLED NO-ONE BUT WAS SCAAAARY AND THE OTHER WAS AN EXPLOSION BECAUSE THE SOVIETS PUT AN lNEXPERIENCED CREW IN CHARGE AND MADE THEM DO TESTS AND TURN OFF THE SAFETY MEASURES AND THAT KILLED A FEW THOUSAND PEOPLE THAT'S ALMOST AS MANY AS FOSSIL FUEL POWER STATIONS KILL EVERY YEAR NUCLEAR POWER IS EEEEEEEEVIL

Pardon me but... [quote]Earlier, the train was halted after activists lowered themselves on ropes from a bridge over the tracks.[/quote] It takes at least half a mile for a loaded train to stop. Seeing as they would be swinging targets, I would hit the brakes about 500 feet up the line and sit back and watch them get reduced to fender ketchup. [quote]...who were trying to sabotage railway tracks.[/quote] That's [i]totally[/i] a way to get your point across that the containers might be unsafe: cause the train to derail and potentially cause a nuclear accident when said containters, which you yourself said might be unsafe, open up and contaminate the close proximity land and water table. Get your logic straight you hippies before you try these bullshit stunts. Edit: Chernobyl is completely irrellivent to this situation. Don't try using any part of it as an example.

If people don't understand how something works, they're afraid of it Truth

[QUOTE=Haxxer;25925615]If people don't understand how something works, they're afraid of it Truth[/QUOTE] I don't know a woman works and I'm not--- oh wait, yes I am :ohdear:

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;25923278]Well Chernobyl was a pretty awful event, and the worst industrial nuclear accident ever but it was due to purposeful human error. The technicians knew the core was under too much strain. No sane engineer would ever do that again.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure they were doing a core test, and a series of unfortunate events and a couple of flawed safety designs lead to the explosion.

After watching some of the tests that these waste caskets go through, I have nothing but confidence in their safety. People get so worked up over nothing. I also see no greater irony than how Greenpeace is so vehemently anti nuclear. Silly silly silly.

Nuclear Power is the best source of energy we have at our disposal, the waste is a minor con compaired to the pros

[QUOTE=bravehat;25923135]Nuclear waste is transported in containers that are lined with at least 3 cm of lead, enough to cut the particles released to the environment by at least half - 3 quarters. It is then encased in concrete to further strengthen it and reduce particle release. People have to stop being so fucking stupid about nuclear power and waste management, it's fucking retarded, fuck there weren't even that many deaths from chernobyl and people bitch about it, and even now, after multiple super improved reactor designs people still think it's somehow relevant. Nuclear power = Good. End of discussion.[/QUOTE] I agree, but Chernobyl was terrible. You say not many people died, perhaps, but a whole city was lost. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=The mouse;25925948]Nuclear Power is the best source of energy we have at our disposal, the waste is a minor con compaired to the pros[/QUOTE] Thorium reactors.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;25926257]I agree, but Chernobyl was terrible. You say not many people died, perhaps, but a whole city was lost. [/QUOTE] Chernobyl is completely irrelevant stop bringing it up.

Those containers are indestructible so I wouldn't worry. [editline]8th November 2010[/editline] And if they think the radioactive cargo on that train is unsafe, then why are they trying to sabotage the tracks?

[QUOTE=Fuhrer;25929723] And if they think the radioactive cargo on that train is unsafe, then why are they trying to sabotage the tracks?[/QUOTE] Silly hipster hippies who failed school and don't listen to anyone over thier super-inflated egos.