• Trump says Sprint, OneWeb to create 8,000 U.S. jobs [REAL NEWS, WONDERFUL AMAZING REAL NEWS]
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[quote]U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Wednesday said telecommunications group Sprint Corp (S.N) and a U.S. satellite company OneWeb will be bringing 8,000 jobs to the United States, celebrating the moves as a result of optimism associated with his election. It was unclear how the 8,000 jobs are related to a $50 billion investment announced in December by Japan's SoftBank Group Corp (9984.T), which is associated with both companies. SoftBank's head, billionaire businessman Masayoshi Son, said at the time his investment would create 50,000 jobs. "I was just called by the head people at Sprint and they are going to be bringing 5,000 jobs back to the United States, they are taking them from other countries," Trump told reporters outside his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. "And also OneWeb, a new company, is going to be hiring 3,000 people. So that's very exciting," he added. OneWeb Ltd on Dec. 19 announced it had raised $1.2 billion and planned to use the funds to build a plant in Florida to produce low-cost satellites, creating almost 3,000 jobs over four years. Sprint Corp is 82 percent owned by SoftBank and SoftBank has agreed to invest $1 billion in OneWeb. Sprint did not immediately respond to requests for comment about the jobs mentioned by Trump. Sprint shares ticked down about 0.3 percent in after-hours trading.[/quote] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-economy-idUSKBN14H1B8[/url]
It it going to be like the air conditioner company when a tiny fraction of those jobs were "saved" only to be automated?
yeah but will it fix sprint's shit coverage?
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;51594922]It it going to be like the air conditioner company when a tiny fraction of those jobs were "saved" only to be automated?[/QUOTE] This isn't the same situation at all. He isn't saving jobs from leaving, he is bringing them back.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51595029]This isn't the same situation at all. He isn't saving jobs from leaving, he is bringing them back.[/QUOTE] Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess. Now the 3,000 [I]new[/I] jobs mentioned in the article sounds good. Lets see if things actually work out that way.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess.[/quote] I mean, it depends on the location, does it not? Could have been another penny wage, suicide-net-type ordeal.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess. Now the 3,000 [I]new[/I] jobs mentioned in the article sounds good. Lets see if things actually work out that way.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I care more about American jobs than jobs for Bangladeshis or whatever. Call me racist for that if you want.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess. Now the 3,000 [I]new[/I] jobs mentioned in the article sounds good. Lets see if things actually work out that way.[/QUOTE] Americans can do the job better.
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;51595085]Could have been another penny wage, suicide-net-type ordeal.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Cructo;51595097]taking from somewhere where workers will overwork and be underpaid[/QUOTE] You both know if a job can be done cheaper somewhere else no business wants to bring that job to somewhere more expensive with fair hours and pay. The US isn't getting these jobs and making them better somehow. Trying to phrase taking a job that exists away as a worker's rights issue because the person may have a shit job is laughable. [QUOTE=MadPro119;51595090]Americans can do the job better.[/QUOTE] This is just dumb. Taking a meager amount of jobs from other places doesn't help the country at large. We need new business initiatives, industry, and technology within our own country. Like I'm not denying new jobs in the US is a good thing, but if you think taking jobs from somewhere else is sustainable you're dead wrong. The 3,000 new jobs at a new company sounds great. There's potential for growth there.
As much as I love to criticize Trump, he never did say he was working for job equality throughout the globe, just job opportunities available for U.S. citizens, which is what his supporters were looking for. I'm not saying I support or do not support it.
The US unemployment rate is 4.6% as of November. The estimated 2016 population is 324 mil. 11,000 jobs down, 14,893,000 to go, MAGA. In other words, that's great for ~11,000 households but I think this seems like perhaps a bit of trying to put some good icing on the absolutely horrid week or two Trump's appointments and such have turned out to be.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51595140]The US unemployment rate is 4.6% as of November. The estimated 2016 population is 324 mil. 11,000 jobs down, 14,893,000 to go, MAGA. In other words, that's great for ~11,000 households but I think this seems like perhaps a bit of trying to put some good icing on the absolutely horrid week or two Trump's appointments and such have turned out to be.[/QUOTE] He isn't even president yet. Plus these initiatives have a snowball like effect. More employment, means more purchasing power, which can lead to more employment.
Well it's a good start I suppose.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595115] Like I'm not denying new jobs in the US is a good thing, but if you think taking jobs from somewhere else is sustainable you're dead wrong. The 3,000 new jobs at a new company sounds great. There's potential for growth there.[/QUOTE] We aren't taking them. Trump isn't taking them. Sprint/OneWeb are bringing them back on their own accord, that sounds like a good thing to me.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51595184]We aren't taking them. Trump isn't taking them. Sprint/OneWeb are bringing them back on their own accord, that sounds like a good thing to me.[/QUOTE] Then I'm just confused at this point. If you're saying Trump isn't responsible for this why is the point of the thread congratulating Trump for something Sprint/OneWeb did. I'm not trying to just shit on Trump or anything people happy with Trump like here. If he can do some good, great. The companies investing back in the U.S is also great. But the idea of "taking back" jobs from the world just hurts us in the long run.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595219]Then I'm just confused at this point. If you're saying Trump isn't responsible for this why is the point of the thread congratulating Trump for something Sprint/OneWeb did.[/QUOTE] Read the article.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595074]Bringing them back as in taking jobs from somewhere else. That's neat. People's jobs don't matter if they're abroad I guess.[/QUOTE] Trump is the prezzy of America. That means he should be looking out for American interests. Bringing jobs in to America is looking out for American interests. Christ like, I get that he's a colossal twat, but how can you possibly spin this as negative? This is a plus for America.
[QUOTE=Super Muffin;51595219]Then I'm just confused at this point. If you're saying Trump isn't responsible for this why is the point of the thread congratulating Trump for something Sprint/OneWeb did.[/QUOTE] The point of the thread isn't to congratulate Trump? Well I obviously can't know what happened when the two met. However I highly doubt Trump said "I want your jobs from other countries" [quote]Masayoshi Son, the brash billionaire who controls Sprint Corp., said Tuesday he would invest $50 billion in the U.S. and create 50,000 new jobs, following a 45-minute private meeting with President-elect Donald Trump. The telecom mogul, who made his fortune in Japan with SoftBank GroupCorp., announced his investment plans in the lobby of Trump Tower, though he didn’t provide details. Mr. Trump took credit for the investment, saying his November victory spurred SoftBank’s decision.[/quote] [url]http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-softbank-pledges-to-invest-50-billion-in-u-s-1481053732[/url]
[QUOTE=Sheer Visor;51595230]Christ like, I get that he's a colossal twat, but how can you possibly spin this as negative? This is a plus for America.[/QUOTE] You lose both ways. If you bring back 1,000 jobs to America, 1,000 americans now have jobs, 1,000 foreigners no longer have those jobs. Depending on the scale and type of job, foreign relations might go down. If you do nothing, you don't get those 1,000 jobs. Everything stays the same. [editline]28th December 2016[/editline] [quote]The telecom mogul, who made his fortune in Japan with SoftBank GroupCorp., announced his investment plans in the lobby of Trump Tower, though he didn’t provide details. Mr. Trump took credit for the investment, saying his November victory spurred SoftBank’s decision.[/quote] lol
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595253]You lose both ways. If you bring back 1,000 jobs to America, 1,000 americans now have jobs, 1,000 foreigners no longer have those jobs. Depending on the scale and type of job, foreign relations might go down. If you do nothing, you don't get those 1,000 jobs. Everything stays the same.[/QUOTE] I would rather bring back 1,000 jobs to america where we have workers rights
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595253][B]You lose both ways.[/B] If you bring back 1,000 jobs to America, 1,000 americans now have jobs, 1,000 foreigners no longer have those jobs. Depending on the scale and type of job,[B] foreign relations might go down[/B]. [/QUOTE] I'm so scared of all those foreign nations that are going to be angry at the United States because a company decided to move some jobs. /s Give us a fucking break.
Ain't that a drop in the ocean compared to the jobs that's been outsourced through the ages? Also, more importantly, are they well paying jobs without obscene skill requirements that the middle class had been drained for in the afromented time period?
[QUOTE=Van-man;51595272] Also, more importantly, are they well paying jobs without obscene skill requirements that the middle class had been drained for in the afromented time period?[/QUOTE] No way to know for sure as of yet but I hear the best way to get this kind of info is to read the article. [quote]OneWeb plans to use the funds to build a plant in Florida to produce low-cost satellites, creating almost 3,000 jobs at the company and its suppliers.[/quote] [quote][Sprint] said it would create 5,000 jobs in areas including sales and customer care by the end of its fiscal year ending in March 2018.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Judas;51595259]I would rather bring back 1,000 jobs to america where we have workers rights[/QUOTE] That does nothing for worker's rights in other countries btw. I'm not against bringing jobs back, I'm just showing how people could find this as a negative. [QUOTE=MadPro119;51595266]I'm so scared of all those foreign nations that are going to be angry at the United States because a company decided to move some jobs. /s Give us a fucking break.[/QUOTE] Yeah bold the very last not part and the entire sentence.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595290]That does nothing for worker's rights in other countries btw. I'm not against bringing jobs back, I'm just showing how people could find this as a negative. Yeah bold the very last not part and the entire sentence.[/QUOTE] Bold is used to emphasize a certain part. Bolding the entire sentence is useless. Your whole post is dumb.
[QUOTE=MadPro119;51595297]Bold is used to emphasize a certain part. Bolding the entire sentence is useless. Your whole post is dumb.[/QUOTE] Let's put this in perspective. If the Chinese government talked with companies and took 1,000 jobs from the united states, what would you think of the Chinese government?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51595310]Let's put this in perspective. If the Chinese government talked with companies and took 1,000 jobs from the united states, what would you think of the Chinese government?[/QUOTE] ... That doesn't even need to be a hypothetical. I would think the government is trying to do good for its people. I would also go to the assumption that the jobs are low skill.
Man, I only came into this thread trying to say I don't like the idea of taking jobs away from people. [QUOTE=Judas;51595259]I would rather bring back 1,000 jobs to america where we have workers rights[/QUOTE] If people are going to keep arguing we're taking shit jobs and making them better, we should take note of the fact that everything is tilting pro-employer and not pro-worker. Trump and the republican super majority have already said neutering worker's unions / worker safety regulations are a priority and Trump's head of the labor department (Puzder) has been in trouble for worker's safety violations. [QUOTE=MadPro119;51595313]I would think the government is trying to do good for its people. I would also go to the assumption that the jobs are low skill.[/QUOTE] That's awfully mature of you. Considering a major rallying call in this country has been "they took our jobs" and railing against who or whatever is accused of taking said jobs.
So I might have been unclear in my message because people are assuming that I agree with people saying "rip 8000 missing jobs in china, you fucking monsters!" but that's a smaller issue than this potential game of illusion Trump is playing with everyone. [quote]President-elect Donald J. Trump took credit on Wednesday for a decision by Sprint to add 5,000 jobs in the United States as he tried to deliver on his promise to force corporate America to focus on job creation at home rather than abroad. “I was just called by the head people at Sprint, and they are going to be bringing 5,000 jobs back to the United States,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. “They have taken them from other countries. They are bringing them back to the United States.” The announcement followed a meeting Mr. Trump had this month with Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of Japan’s SoftBank, which said it would invest $50 billion in the United States and create 50,000 positions.[/quote] [quote][highlight]It was not clear whether the combined 8,000 jobs were part of that 50,000 commitment from Mr. Son.[/highlight] Although Mr. Trump claimed credit for SoftBank’s $50 billion investment in the United States, [highlight]those plans predated the election, and Mr. Son has owned a controlling stake in Sprint, among other companies, for several years.[/highlight][/quote] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/politics/donald-trump-sprint-jobs.html[/url] [quote]On Tuesday, Mr. Son, a Japanese mogul, struck another big pledge after meeting with President-elect Donald J. Trump: to invest $50 billion in the United States, a move that he said would create some 50,000 jobs. [highlight]But the $50 billion investment pledge is not an entirely new initiative that SoftBank is undertaking. Instead, the money is projected to come from the Japanese company’s previously announced Vision fund, a $100 billion vehicle for investing in technology companies worldwide.[/highlight][/quote] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/business/dealbook/donald-trump-mayayoshi-son-softbank.html[/url] So we established that the $50 billion investment and 50,000 jobs has nothing to do with Trump, and he's only riding off of that, trying to take as much credit as possible. What about the 8,000 jobs? [quote]“I was just called by the head people at Sprint, and they are going to be bringing 5,000 jobs back to the United States,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida. “They have taken them from other countries. They are bringing them back to the United States.” SoftBank owns a controlling stake in Sprint, the mobile phone carrier, and is a major investor in OneWeb, a satellite start-up that Mr. Trump said Wednesday would create an additional 3,000 jobs in the United States. [highlight]It was not clear whether the combined 8,000 jobs were part of that 50,000 commitment from Mr. Son.[/highlight][/quote] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/us/politics/donald-trump-sprint-jobs.html[/url] Great.
lol if you care so deeply about the state of employment in china, then why don't you petition for who ever you work for to transfer jobs abroad in order to appease the sad Asian people without jobs. Give me a fucking break, your country and your life goes first, I am not going to give up my job because there is someone a couple thousand miles away who needs one. Once I and the country I live in is stable and everyone has a job, food, water, healthcare, etc THEN we can start to worry about the surrounding countries, and then once every single country in the world is stable, we can move onto other planets etc etc
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