10 and 11 year old would be killers arrested in detailed plot to kill classmates - Polidicks

[quote] Two fifth-grade elementary school pupils are accused of plotting to kill a girl classmate they thought was "really annoying". The boys, who attend Fort Colville Elementary School in Colville, Washington, were arrested after a handgun, ammunition and a knife were found in one of their backpacks. Aged 10 and 11, they were allegedly going to lure the girl outside to murder her — and have reportedly confessed to planning to attack another six pupils. Read more: [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fifth-graders-arrested-plot-kill-girl-article-1.1265201#ixzz2L4R6udQN[/url] [/quote] Just slightly disturbing kids that age would go into that much thought to kill someone they thought was 'annoying'.

Must be videogames... but this is really disturbing.

Clearly psychopaths

Handgun... Ammo... Knife... 7 targets... Noobs, they were gonna use a tactical knife loadout to get a chopper. pfffff

[QUOTE=DeanWinchester;39609086]Must be videogames... but this is really disturbing.[/QUOTE] No. We have been through this before. Don't bring this up again.

Maybe it is the videogames, but I still find it idiotic for them to try and pull this shit. Either they were sick in the head or they got an idea from something. It's just fucked up.

"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE] Jesus, they actually said that?

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[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE]Those are things that psychotic children do

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE] I don't remember setting any cat on fire in my childhood... With or without videogames, they need some serious therapy.

There are multiple factors which can be brought into this Minors can't properly filter all the shit they see on TV and in games American news media runs sensationalist reports 24/7 on school shootings There's a fair chance they've played violent video games Shitty parenting means these kids' issues haven't been properly brought into light Kids are very likely to be influenced by eachother etc But obviously media is going to take the short cut and single out video games from the above

[QUOTE]On searching his backpack, and that of his 10-year-old friend, staff found a 3-inch bladed knife, a .45-calibre Remington 1911 semiautomatic handgun and an ammunition clip.[/QUOTE] I'm very much for the control part of weapon-control. It should [B]not[/B] be possible for a 10 and 11 year old to get their hands on that.

[QUOTE=demoguy08;39609218]There are multiple factors which can be brought into this [B]Minors can't properly filter all the shit they see on TV and in games[/B] American news media runs sensationalist reports 24/7 on school shootings There's a fair chance they've played violent video games [B] Shitty parenting means these kids' issues haven't been properly brought into light[/B] Kids are very likely to be influenced by eachother etc But obviously media is going to take the short cut and single out video games from the above[/QUOTE] these are the 2 main reasons for this, mostly the bad parenting part.

I remember when I was little if someone was irritating me up the wall and across the ceiling I'd just insult them or want to strangle them - mostly due to Bart & Homer from the Simpsons - but I never acted on it, it was more of a passing phase where anywhere from a minute to ten minutes later me and the annoyance would be best friends again or ignoring each other. Timothy Rasmussen must meet a lot of interesting people in his job to think that setting animals on fire or running around hitting people with sticks is normal. The worst I saw or heard any child do to a animal in my town growing up was kicking a dog off a porch because it stole his food. It is my personal belief, that while video games -can- have an affect on children and how they think (especially when violent mature games are introduced to a kid that's between 3 and 6) but it isn't going to be the 100% reason someone grows up/suddenly turns into a killer and violent person. I am strongly for the idea that how someone acts when they grow up depends on how their social lives go, what they have access too and what they don't have access too (Rich? Poor? Do they have the ability to get their hands on any drugs?), if any traumatic or huge events occur that would temporarily 'put them out of their place', and parenting. Parenting, or the lack of it, can be the deciding factor in how people act. That and if parents notice (or even ignore) warning signs that something is wrong with their child.

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE] It's perfectly fine to set a cat on fire. But killing is bad, and we all know that cats have 9 lives so it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;39609261]these are the 2 main reasons for this, mostly the bad parenting part.[/QUOTE] Could imagine some shitty parents with an issued child craving for the latest tactic00l shooter and the parents giving in just to make the kid stop screaming. Thus the child gets a source of influence it can't filter too well.

[QUOTE=Jzzb;39609129]Those are things that psychotic children do[/QUOTE] do you play with a) jump ropes and hula hoops b) frisbees and football c) video games d) fire and your parents emotions

[QUOTE=Vintage Thatguy;39609351]do you play with a) jump ropes and hula hoops b) frisbees and football c) video games d) fire and your parents emotions[/QUOTE] d

[QUOTE=Sunday_Roast;39609338]Could imagine some shitty parents with an issued child craving for the latest tactic00l shooter and the parents giving in just to make the kid stop screaming. Thus the child gets a source of influence it can't filter too well.[/QUOTE] what you said is what generally happens, shithead parents can't be firm with their kids, allows kids access to shit they shouldn't have/watch, said child get influenced by it in a bad way, this is (one of the many possible) results, you know the funny thing is most people are aware the bad parenting is the true reason for most of this shit, they just kinda refuse to accept it lol, easier to blame something else. through to be honest, some parents seem to do this as a backslash to "old style parenting" which was "beating the shit out of children when they did something wrong" so... yeah.

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE] yeah dude I used to set cats on fire all the time. it was my favorite activity

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;39609393]what you said is what generally happens, shithead parents can't be firm with their kids, allows kids access to shit they shouldn't have/watch, said child get influenced by it in a bad way, this is (one of the many possible) results, you know the funny thing is most people are aware the bad parenting is the true reason for most of this shit, they just kinda refuse to accept it lol, easier to blame something else. through to be honest, some parents seem to do this as a backslash to "old style parenting" which was "beating the shit out of children when they did something wrong" so... yeah.[/QUOTE] An evil circle it seems.

[QUOTE=Vintage Thatguy;39609351]do you play with a) jump ropes and hula hoops b) frisbees and football c) video games d) fire and your parents emotions[/QUOTE] My parents were cool so they gave me video games,utter-dominance of the TV and fire(of course under supervision of people 16 y/olds and above)

what the fuck. fuck this shit planet

And now the countdown to "THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES, LOOK AT THIS FOOTAGE OF GRAND THEFT AUTO WHERE YOU ARE A 10 YEAR OLD AND YOU KILL PEOPLE FOR POINTS!" If they wanted to link it to video games why not something that makes sense like bad parenting 10 and 11 year old kids don't have direct access to those games and if they are playing violent games its because of the parents

It's just as stupid to blame video games for violence in children as it is to not blame them for violence in children. All the studies suck dick because they're performed from a biased perspective, even the ones that are like, "Well, we were trying to prove video games made you satanic, but we actually found they give you superpowers". It's all horse shit, and to me it seems reasonable that playing certain video games, namely the most popular ones around right now for children, could have an impact on their psyche, or at the very least augment their social issues.

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill." They set a cat on fire and hit people with sticks, that's normal things children do! Are people really that retarded? And then they're probably going to blame videogames.[/QUOTE] Jeez. The worst thing I ever did at that age was steal a few hood ornaments. Which is bad enough as it is, and I still have terrible conscience about that. Hope the car owners had insurance.

How the fuck did children manage to get a hold of a gun? This is that stupid I can't even think of anything witty to say.

[QUOTE=danielga;39609099]"They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do."[/QUOTE] What the fuck, isn't that what psychopaths are known to do at a young age? Whoever said that must have had a really fucked up childhood if that's what's normal for them. [QUOTE=demoguy08;39609218]There are multiple factors which can be brought into this Minors can't properly filter all the shit they see on TV and in games American news media runs sensationalist reports 24/7 on school shootings There's a fair chance they've played violent video games Shitty parenting means these kids' issues haven't been properly brought into light Kids are very likely to be influenced by eachother etc But obviously media is going to take the short cut and single out video games from the above[/QUOTE] It's true, these kids turn out like this due to multiple factors, not just "oh it was games" or "oh it was bad friends", it's a mixture of various factors that unfortunately come together and turns them into this, yet many like to just tunnel vision into a single reason for all of this. Unfortunately this issue does not have a simple answer.

We don't have enough details to start blaming anything for causing this