• U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Refuses To Save Dying Girl "I Can’t Step Into Girl’s Tra
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[QUOTE][I]PHILADELPHIA (CBS/AP)[/I] — The U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services says she doesn’t want to intervene in transplant decisions about a dying Pennsylvania girl when other children are just as sick. Kathleen Sebelius says medical experts should make those decisions. But relatives of 10-year-old Sarah Murnaghan say they want the policy changed for all children awaiting a lung transplant, not just Sarah. Sarah’s aunt Sharon Ruddock says older children should be eligible for adult lungs because so few pediatric lungs are available. She says that would add just 20 children to the 1,600 people on the adult waiting list.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/06/04/sebelius-i-cant-step-into-girls-transplant-case/[/URL]
i understand what she's saying. if she steps in to help this little girl, then that means everybody is going to expect the same treatment, and there really is a finite supply of organs out there
mustn't violate the prime directive
As much as it sucks, he has a point. You can't save everyone it is impossible, and if you make an exception to help 1 out of 100 you suddenly have 99 people out for your head.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;40902840]As much as it sucks, he has a point. You can't save everyone it is impossible, and if you make an exception to help 1 out of 100 you suddenly have 99 people out for your head.[/QUOTE] Except if you read the article her parents want it to be a law for everyone, not just for their daughter.
[QUOTE=doommarine23;40902910]Except if you read the article her parents want it to be a law for everyone, not just for their daughter.[/QUOTE] Agree'd, however I am no doctor but I don't imagine putting an adult lung in someone who hasn't hit puberty yet is going to be easy, or safe.
[QUOTE=PassTheBong;40902781]i understand what she's saying. if she steps in to help this little girl, then that means everybody is going to expect the same treatment, and there really is a finite supply of organs out there[/QUOTE] Time to do what the movie The Island did and just grow our organs.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;40902840]As much as it sucks, he has a point. You can't save everyone it is impossible, and if you make an exception to help 1 out of 100 you suddenly have 99 people out for your head.[/QUOTE] It would make a change for 20 children, its not that big of a step.
For this reason I kind of think Organ donating should be required after you die, Obviously not your lungs if you are a smoker or something, But I mean its not like your going to need your lungs or heart or anything else after you die.
[QUOTE=Blockhead;40904057]For this reason I kind of think Organ donating should be required after you die, Obviously not your lungs if you are a smoker or something, But I mean its not like your going to need your lungs or heart or anything else after you die.[/QUOTE] As an organ donor, I have to disagree. The medical waste generated by un-usable body parts would be staggering, parts that you can reuse dimmish with the age of the patient, many cultures and religions have respect of past relatives, biohazard waste becomes a big problem, and much more.
If officials can pick they'll pick favorites and [I]special[/I] people and we'll have a corrupt system.
[QUOTE=The golden;40905661]Here in my Province, you get a organ-donation registration sheet when you are given your drivers license. It's totally optional but this way every person has the choice presented to them at least once.[/QUOTE] It's at the top of every DMV paper sheet for license renewals/registrations, and you have to specify yes or no, or they reject your license. Surprisingly about 40% of the USA are registered donors. The problem isn't finding organs, it's finding usable ones, while finding compatible persons, while maintaining the short shelf life organs have.
[QUOTE=The golden;40905661]Here in my Province, you get a organ-donation registration sheet when you are given your drivers license. It's totally optional but this way every person has the choice presented to them at least once.[/QUOTE]Same in the U.S. When you go for your driver's license, they ask if you'd like to be an organ donor.
[QUOTE=counterpo0;40903571]Time to do what the movie The Island did and just grow our organs.[/QUOTE] That technology isn't very far away. Another decade or two and we'll likely start seeing fully grown organs ready for use in cases like this.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;40905624]As an organ donor, I have to disagree. The medical waste generated by un-usable body parts would be staggering, parts that you can reuse dimmish with the age of the patient, many cultures and religions have respect of past relatives, biohazard waste becomes a big problem, and much more.[/QUOTE] Culture and religion can go suck a dick if it prevents saving innocent lives. As far as medical waste goes, it isn't like human parts are any different than anything else. Burn them. Do whatever. Many nations have compulsory military service. Compulsory organ donation is about ten thousand times less offensive.
[QUOTE=The golden;40905661]Here in my Province, you get a organ-donation registration sheet when you are given your drivers license. It's totally optional but this way every person has the choice presented to them at least once.[/QUOTE] except for people who cant afford to drive
[QUOTE=doommarine23;40902910]Except if you read the article her parents want it to be a law for everyone, not just for their daughter.[/QUOTE] Even then, there's not a whole lot he can do about it, except for ask Congress nicely.
[QUOTE=GunFox;40908314]Culture and religion can go suck a dick if it prevents saving innocent lives. As far as medical waste goes, it isn't like human parts are any different than anything else. Burn them. Do whatever. Many nations have compulsory military service. Compulsory organ donation is about ten thousand times less offensive.[/QUOTE] Its still going to cause a massive shit storm if it were ever implemented in the U.S Perhaps they should require death row inmates to be organ donors, give something back to the system after draining its money.
[QUOTE=Saxon;40908900]Its still going to cause a massive shit storm if it were ever implemented in the U.S Perhaps they should require death row inmates to be organ donors, give something back to the system after draining its money.[/QUOTE] Because the government killing people and harvesting their organs is going to end well. :P Shouldn't have the death penalty either, but that is an entirely different debate.
C'mon 3d printed organs, get out of testing phase already.
[QUOTE=Tucan Sam;40905624]As an organ donor, I have to disagree. The medical waste generated by un-usable body parts would be staggering, parts that you can reuse dimmish with the age of the patient, many cultures and religions have respect of past relatives, biohazard waste becomes a big problem, and much more.[/QUOTE] What medical waste are you talking about? If the organ is unusable, they just bury or cremate it. It is not like every organ donor has pristine organs. But religion and cultural views are a different matter.
PRINT ORGANS NOW!
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