[QUOTE]This reporter has been told that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has metastatic rhabdomyosarcoma, an aggressive cancer that has "entered the end stage". The information and the quote come from a highly respected source close to Chavez and who is in a position to know his medical condition and history. This source says the prognosis is dire and that Chavez is now not expected to live "more than a couple of months at most." Chavez is running for re-elec tion in Venezuela but several sources--including the one who revealed the exact kind of cancer-- have told me that they believe it is doubtful the dictator will live to see the results.
Voting is scheduled for October 7th. Chavez has been treated three times in Cuba but the exact kind of cancer has been a closely guarded state secret.
Reporter's note: There is only one source for identifying the cancer and for the prognosis quoted in the first part of the above story. This is a person whom your reporter has very good reason to trust, but you should know that there is only one source so far; no other immediate confirmation. All sources asked for and were granted anonymity because to reveal their names could place them in danger or, at the very least cost them their positions.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/report--chavez-s-cancer-has--entered-the-end-stage-.html[/url]
What the fuck i was not expecting this.
He's probably died multiple times already and they're just tired of finding more look-alikes.
honestly he DID deserves that
I will happy to see him out of office, although it is unfortunate that his life will be cut short as well.
why does the article call him a dictator?
[QUOTE=thisispain;36136088]why does the article call him a dictator?[/QUOTE]
Hes not a a very nice leader
What a shame, I guess. Chavez was far from ideal, but he was a step in the right direction. Socialism in Venezuela was a mixed blessing.
[editline]30th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;36136189]Hes not a a very nice leader[/QUOTE]
But he's not a dictator. He has heavy influence and his justice system is corrupt, but he doesn't have extreme authority and was elected democratically. Just because he's not a nice leader and shoves around the private sector as socialists tend to do, doesn't mean that he's a dictator.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;36136189]Hes not a a very nice leader[/QUOTE]
dictators don't get elected by elections deemed legitimate by international councils.
it seems to be a short-hand insult.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;36136189]Hes not a a very nice leader[/QUOTE]
Was he the one that indirectly killed thousands of Americans and invaded a couple of countries?
Or was he the one that resulted in the killings of thousands of Palestinians
Or was that the one that tried to annex (or maintain their annexation of) South Ossetia?
Maybe you mean the one that funnels millions of dollars into terrorism?
Or is it that one that used false-flag terrorist attacks to justify massive civilian casualties?
Let's be realistic here - nice leaders don't become national leaders.
So what you guys are saying is, Hugo Chavez is actually a decent leader and the core problem lies not with him but the people who work for him?
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36136246']Just because he's not a nice leader and shoves around the private sector as socialists tend to do[/QUOTE]
I'd rather the leader shove around the private sector, than the private sector shove around the leader
[editline]31st May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=GoldenDargon;36136275]So what you guys are saying is, Hugo Chavez is actually a decent leader and the core problem lies not with him but the people who work for him?[/QUOTE]
No, he's about as shit as most other leaders. He's reported on far worse because he calls the US on a fair amount of reasonable shit, and a decent amount of unreasonable shit.
That's a really nasty form of cancer, nastier even than pancreatic cancer.
He'll be dead by Christmas at this point.
Was he the one who made the paranoid accusation that US agents somehow gave him cancer?
You know, I think Hugo is a corrupt little fuck, but after seeing my grandpa die of cancer I can't wish it upon anyone.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;36137408]Was he the one who made the paranoid accusation that US agents somehow gave him cancer?[/QUOTE]
probably, he's pretty paranoid.
but i would be too if the international community hated my guts for being a commie, i'd call it the Stalin effect.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;36137408]Was he the one who made the paranoid accusation that US agents somehow gave him cancer?[/QUOTE]He also blames HAARP for numerous natural disasters.
[QUOTE=Mr._N;36137408]Was he the one who made the paranoid accusation that US agents somehow gave him cancer?[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Hugo is also the same fellow who claimed in 2010 that the massive earthquake which ravaged Haiti was the result of a super secret tectonic weapon the United States was testing out on them to try and force them to become a protectorate.:v:
[url]http://reason.com/blog/2010/01/20/chavista-experts-say-us-milita[/url]
I know him he lives next door
hear he's some kind of politician or something
sucks that a pretty great guy has been painted as a villain because he opposed USA imperialism and freed venezuela from the yolk of oil companies. sucks that he has cancer too.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;36137542]sucks that a pretty great guy has been painted as a villain because he opposed USA imperialism and freed venezuela from the yolk of oil companies. sucks that he has cancer too.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.theplaceswelive.com/[/url]
Click Caracas, and then you'll know he isn't all peaches and creme.
Oh boy, how easy it is to tell that the rest of the world is so ill informed about what Chavez has done to this country. He's a dictator, simply. He doesn't cheat the elections, he cheats the votes. People have been scared by something called the Tascón list which contains all people who voted on the 2004 referendum to remove Chavez from power. Everyone who voted against him in 2004 and were working for the government in any sort of way (Like on any country the government is the biggest employer), were removed from their posts, military officers were removed from their posts, PDVSA fired nearly 60% of it's employees due to this list, and instead hired over the years less skilled workers or foreign labor from Cuba and China.
Chavez has essentially sold this country to China and Cuba, having made a 10 year agreement paid on oil to bring China oil processing technology to Venezuela (Something illegal as contemplated by the 1999 constitution). Chavez has successfully scared people into voting for him as these list containing people who have voted for him are still going around and people who have not changed their votes in recent elections are still being denied jobs in several public offices. Under Chavez, 20% of the private production was made into state property, removing people from their jobs. Doctors, who have been in a constant flee from the country have been replaced by poorly trained Cuban doctors or "express doctors" with a degree they got after 2 years of study. Private property is constantly under threat as aggressive and armed squatters have been defended by the government.
That's not the end of it, under Chavez, Venezuela has entered a massive crime wave, comparable to the Colombian period of La Violencia. 50 people are murdered in Caracas every week (Or at least those are the one that get to the morgues). There have been 3 major breakouts in prisons all around the country over the last 2 years, most recent one being on the La Planta complex, which is in El Paraiso, in the middle of Caracas, resulting in a gunfight that ensued for 3 days straight between military forces and the armed prisoners of La Planta, mirroring the previous incident in Rodeo II. Education has been made more than sub par, with high school students often getting a free pass in certain subjects as no teachers can be found for them. Private education is costly and constantly under fire by government agencies with no restraints or concern about the future of Venezuela. Even the UCV, a World Heritage site, has slowly decayed into a shell of it's former self by consistent attacks by radical Chavist group M28 who have firebombed and opened fire within the campus.
This country is nearing a state of anarchy, with a decaying economy, with a massive brain drain caused due to the rampant crime, a decay in quality of life and in even essential services like electricity and running water, all this while Chavez has continuously gifted away massive amounts of money/oil barrels to his friends at Nicaragua, Bolivia, Ecuador, Cuba and China, money that belongs to Venezuelans, and that could be used to improve oh so many things. The Chavez administration are inexcusable in their inefficiency, inefficacy, criminal negligence and constant failure at solving even the most basic of problems. I am not saying that Chavez deserves cancer or that he deserves to die in any way, that's most certainly not what I am saying, but it's time to realize that he's simply not fit to run a country.
He is not a good man turned evil by American imperialism, do not be fooled. He's a bad administrator surrounded by even worse ones trying to run a country without having any idea of what they are even doing.
Let me quote it to make it easier for people who don't want to watch it
"The Venezuelan Capital is located in a valley, with commercial districts and well-heeled residential areas near the valley floor. But look upwards in any direction, and you will see shantytowns built into the steep hillsides.
The population of Caracas has more than quadrupled in the last 50 years, fueled in part by Venezuela's Recent oil boom. Despite President Hugo Chavéz's populist platform, and even though Venezuela holds South America's largest oil reserves, about 50 percent of Caraqueños live in poor neighborhoods known as barrios. These neighborhoods lack access to basic municipal services such as waste collection, regular mail delivery, sewage systems, and legal electricity connections.
The barrios also face a serious security issue. According to UNESCO, firearms kill more people in any other country not at war. In 2007, the annual tally approached 12,000 murders countrywide. In the tattered social fabric of Caracas and its barrios, internecine gang warfare, robbery, and other violent crime produce 100 homicides a week."
And this man has the best oil reserves on the continent, and he bullies his people into submission.
Knowing several people from that country I know he did some pretty shitty stuff so he could do what he wanted for the country(which wasnt bad), but I can see why he did it. With so many powers in the "democracy", you sometimes cant do anything you want because everyone that doesnt want it its going to denie it, which if the powers werent corrupted would work fine but he had to pull them off so he could actually achieve something during his term(Which helped the people of Venezuela, thats why he has been relected 3 times or so).
Its tough been a president, and he surely doesnt deserve to be hated like this, much less the cancer hes suffering.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;36137644]Let me quote it to make it easier for people who don't want to watch it
"The Venezuelan Capital is located in a valley, with commercial districts and well-heeled residential areas near the valley floor. But look upwards in any direction, and you will see shantytowns built into the steep hillsides.
The population of Caracas has more than quadrupled in the last 50 years, fueled in part by Venezuela's Recent oil boom. Despite President Hugo Chavéz's populist platform, and even though Venezuela holds South America's largest oil reserves, about 50 percent of Caraqueños live in poor neighborhoods known as barrios. These neighborhoods lack access to basic municipal services such as waste collection, regular mail delivery, sewage systems, and legal electricity connections.
The barrios also face a serious security issue. According to UNESCO, firearms kill more people in any other country not at war. In 2007, the annual tally approached 12,000 murders countrywide. In the tattered social fabric of Caracas and its barrios, internecine gang warfare, robbery, and other violent crime produce 100 homicides a week."
And this man has the best oil reserves on the continent, and he bullies his people into submission.[/QUOTE]
The thing about barrios is that they're not a Chavez thing. People blame it on Chavez but the barrios are as old as Caracas, considering that places like Petare, which is really just a big slum were once haciendas of rich Spaniards before the republic was even established. That's not the problem, the problem is how Chavez is instead of trying to get people out of the slums he's trying to get them IN.
I've seen this happen more than once, one of my closest friends lost everything after his father was fired from PDVSA, he's literally subsisting on selling the stuff from his once lavish home. His father has a Ph.D, yet he has been unable to find employment for the last 8 years.
[QUOTE=Santz;36137674]Knowing several people from that country I know he did some pretty shitty stuff so he could do what he wanted for the country(which wasnt bad), but I can see why he did it. With so many powers in the "democracy", you sometimes cant do anything you want because everyone that doesnt want it its going to denie it, which if the powers werent corrupted would work fine but he had to pull them off so he could actually achieve something during his term(Which helped the people of Venezuela, thats why he has been relected 3 times or so).
Its tough been a president, and he surely doesnt deserve to be hated like this, much less the cancer hes suffering.[/QUOTE]
Whoever is from Venezuela, had to fled the country and has the balls to say that what Chavez did is justified in any way is not what I'd consider Venezuelan. Chavez has personally (He literally asked for it) to take successful private companies as state property so the state can reap it's earnings to try and do more and more of his misiones, which are like doing social policy but instead of actually having a budget or any concern for the economy you just churn Bolivares into it until shit starts working, not realizing that this is reducing the Bolivar to fiat currency.
Chavez has done NOTHING good, nothing that someone with a proper grasp of a developing country's budget like Carlos Andres Perez or Caldera couldn't have done way better with way less money and way less bullshit while keeping it fair for everyone instead of just for the ones who vote for Chavez, because that's the reason people vote for Chavez, the fucking freebies. They're giving away washing machines now, I shit you not.
I personally despise Hugo Chavez, but it's sad to see anyone die from cancer.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];36136246']Socialism in Venezuela was a mixed blessing.
[/QUOTE]
Maybe it could have been a step in the right direction, if his administration wasn't so incompetent. No matter how much policies, speech or work you do, it's pretty much invalidated when you're leading a country that:
-Has power shortages country-wide daily (usually between 4 and 5 hours)
-Has food shortages all year long (basic products like milk, wheat, eggs, toilet paper are lacking all year long)
-has water shortages all year long
-almost 20,000 deaths a year related to crime
-inflation rate at 23%
-10% of population in extreme poverty
Of course, the roots of many of these problems lay on previous governments, but chavez has been in power for almost 15 years, I'd say far enough time to solve these problems. I'm rather glad he'll be out of office (if this report is true, lots of speculation has surrounded his sickness) but I'm rather scared for the future of my country, there are lots of interests and parties pushing to control the government and a dispute after the death of chavez could easily spark a civil war.
[QUOTE]He also blames HAARP for numerous natural disasters.[/QUOTE]
People keep taking these claims seriously while they fail to realize Chavez is a jokester. he often makes ridiculous claims like this one, but always in a joking tone.
While I am not from Venezuela Big Bang, I believe the Barrios are spiraling out of control because Chavez is failing to at least police the district. Even the MILITARY would do better at stopping the murders occurring.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;36137726]While I am not from Venezuela Big Bang, I believe the Barrios are spiraling out of control because Chavez is failing to at least police the district. Even the MILITARY would do better at stopping the murders occurring.[/QUOTE]
There ARE policemen in the barrios, only that most if not all are part of the barrios' familias and drug cartels, therefore giving criminals complete impunity. It'd be worse to have the military involved, if prisoners can already get military issue AK-103's into prisons I just fear what the cartels would do if they had a way to get military weaponry.
I started to think about how terrible of an idea that was after I said that :v:
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