• Dominionist Nutjob David Barton: The Bible Is Totally Against Net Neutrality
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[quote] David Barton believes that [URL="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barton-everything-should-operate-according-biblical-principles"]everything should operate under Biblical principles[/URL], and according to Barton, the Bible even has a view on rules for Internet service providers like Net Neutrality. Here’s a hint: the Bible opposes it. As noted in People For the American Way’s new report, “[URL="http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/barton-s-bunk-religious-right-historian-hits-the-big-time-tea-party-america"]Barton’s Bunk: Religious Right ‘Historian’ Hits the Big Time in Tea Party America[/URL],” Barton finds that the Bible always has a pro-corporate, pro-GOP message. Barton and his partner Rick Green [URL="http://wallbuilderslive.com/listen.asp?cs=high&mf=mp3&fileName=WBLive2011-04-19"]hosted[/URL] Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) [no relation], a [URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/605-technology/63943-barton-asks-fcc-to-abandon-net-neutrality-rulemaking"]vocal foe of Net Neutrality[/URL] who has received [URL="http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=2010&cid=N00005656&type=I&newmem=N"]significant contributions[/URL] from Net Neutrality opponents like Comcast, Verizon and the National Cable & Telecommunications Association. Net Neutrality ensures that Internet service providers [URL="http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/n/net_neutrality/index.html"]can’t charge higher rates for faster delivery of content[/URL]. The [I]New York Times[/I] [URL="http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/n/net_neutrality/index.html"]explains[/URL] that Net Neutrality allows “Internet users [to] get access to any Web site on an equal basis” and without the policy, service providers can “give preferential treatment to content providers who pay for faster transmission, or to their own content, in effect creating a two-tier Web.” But Barton says that the Bible, Ben Franklin and the Pilgrims all opposed Net Neutrality because it violates the rights of huge corporations to charge higher rates and discriminate on content, calling it a “wicked” policy and “socialism on the Internet.” Apparently, the [URL="http://nrb.org/mediacenter/president_s_blog/the-net-neutrality-debate/"]National Religious Broadcasters[/URL] and the [URL="http://www.cc.org/net_neutrality"]Christian Coalition[/URL], two prominent supporters of Net Neutrality, have missed the memo. But, Barton insists, “'fair' is a word that no Christian should ever use in their vocabulary”:[INDENT]Green: Today, David a topic we actually haven’t covered that much, it has to do with the Internet, and it’s called Net Neutrality, a wonderful sounding name- Barton: But we talk about it today because it is a principle of free market. That’s a Biblical principle, that’s a historical principle, we have all these quotes from Ben Franklin, and Jefferson and Washington and others on free market and how important that is to maintain. That is part of the reason we have prosperity. This is what the Pilgrims brought in, the Puritans brought in, this is free market mentality. Net Neutrality sounds really good, but it is socialism on the Internet. … Barton: This is the Fairness Doctrine applied to the Internet, and I’ll go back to what I believed for a long time is: fair is a word no Christian should ever use in their vocabulary. Fair has nothing to do with anything. What you want is justice, you don’t want fairness. Fairness is subjective, what I think is fair, what you think, what happened to Jesus wasn’t fair. That’s right, but we needed justice so God did that for us. … Barton: This is really, I’m going to use the word wicked stuff, and I don’t use that word very often, but this is wicked stuff. [/INDENT]Even though Barton claims to know that the Bible is decidedly against Net Neutrality, evidently Barton himself has no idea what [URL="http://www.freepress.net/policy/internet/net_neutrality"]Net Neutrality[/URL] is, decrying the policy as “redistribution of wealth through the Internet.”[INDENT]Barton: There's groups out there that their business requires a whole lot more bandwidth than, say, you and I do sending emails. I mean, if you're Skype, you got a lot of bandwidth being used. If you're YouTube, you got a lot of bandwidth going with videos. Guess what? You got more bandwidth, you're going to have to pay a little more. Oh no. That's not fair. That's not Net Neutrality. Well, if you don't pay more, these broadband providers say "we're going to cut you off because you're using more of our space." Government says "that's not fair, you can't do that." Green: So when they say "selectively block," what they mean is we're not going to let you choose who you need to charge more to. Barton: That's right, that's exactly right. I mean, if Skype uses eighty-five percent of the server space, you can't charge them eighty-five percent of the fees because that would be unfair. And if Skype says "well, we don't want to pay that," and you say "well, you're off our server," no you can't do that. You can't kick them off just because they won't pay. I mean, this is crazy stuff. This is redistribution of wealth through the internet and it really is redistribution. This is socialism on the internet[/INDENT][/quote] [B]RELATED:[/B] Alarmed by Barton's meteoric popularity among the Tea Party and religious right, [I]Right Wing Watch[/I] today issued an [URL="http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-focus/barton-s-bunk-religious-right-historian-hits-the-big-time-tea-party-america"]exhaustive expose[/URL] on the man Newt Gingrich Mike Huckabee says Americans should be "forced to listen to at gunpoint." An excerpt: [quote]Barton has been profitably peddling a distorted “Christian nation” version of American history to conservative religious audiences for the past two decades. His books and videos denouncing church-state separation have been repeatedly debunked by respected historians, but that hasn’t kept Barton from becoming a folk hero for many in the Religious Right. His eagerness to help elect Republicans has won him gratitude and support from national as well as state and local GOP leaders. Former senator Sam Brownback, now the governor of Kansas, has said that Barton’s research “provides the philosophical underpinning for a lot of the Republican effort in the country today – bringing God back into the public square.” Indeed, Time Magazine named him one of the nation’s 25 most influential evangelical Christians in 2005.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barton-bible-opposes-net-neutrality[/url]
[quote]Barton finds that the Bible always has a pro-corporate, pro-GOP message. [/quote] Incredible how people will bend literally anything in the Bible to suit their own morals.
I'd like to see him quote something that says so. 'and Jesus said, thou shalt not troll noobs anonymously'?
I hate to say "this is all republicans" because I rationally know it isn't but it's starting to look like, yes, this is all republicans.
Fuck religion dude. Does more shit than good, and I've had it.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29307500]I hate to say "this is all republicans" because I rationally know it isn't but it's starting to look like, yes, this is all republicans.[/QUOTE] The plural of anecdote is not data etc. etc. but I'm beginning to agree with you, wtf republicans I never realised how many of you were retarded
what a massive dolt
The bible is pro-piracy Jesus splitting that fish into more fish? piracy right there
[QUOTE=Dr.C;29307662]The bible is pro-piracy Jesus splitting that fish into more fish? piracy right there[/QUOTE] Don't forget the water-to-wine trick. I mean, water's free but wine costs a fuckload!
Jesus was a hacker. I mean, look at the shit he pulled. [img]http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID22125/images/WalkingOnWater.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Turnips5;29307319]Incredible how people will bend literally anything in the Bible to suit their own morals.[/QUOTE] hahahaha I'm pretty sure it says the complete opposite of that. That is completely ridiculous
[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;29307840]Don't forget the water-to-wine trick. I mean, water's free but wine costs a fuckload![/QUOTE] Sounds like alchemical hoodoo to me Burn the witch
[QUOTE=Turnips5;29307523]The plural of anecdote is not data etc. etc. but I'm beginning to agree with you, wtf republicans I never realised how many of you were retarded[/QUOTE] I'm so sorry. So very, very sorry.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29307500]I hate to say "this is all republicans" because I rationally know it isn't but it's starting to look like, yes, this is all republicans.[/QUOTE] :colbert:
Nutjobs! :gonk: :v: Nutjobs everywere!
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;29310506]:colbert:[/QUOTE] But you're not a Dominionist.
[QUOTE=lulzbocksV2;29307907]Jesus was a hacker. I mean, look at the shit he pulled. [img_thumb]http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID22125/images/WalkingOnWater.jpg[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] Jesus ain't got shit on this guy. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fYXf9Z--JM&feature=related[/media]
[QUOTE=staticman;29310639]But you're not a Dominionist.[/QUOTE] That's true. I'm not very religious at all.
[QUOTE=Fort83;29311024]What doesn't the bible oppose nowadays?[/QUOTE] Tea Party members, apparently.
[QUOTE=Fort83;29311024]What doesn't the bible oppose nowadays?[/QUOTE] Americans
[QUOTE=Lizard Of Guilt;29311542]Americans[/QUOTE] No no, it opposes Americans, the kind who don't follow right wing ideals.
[QUOTE=VengfulSoldier;29312626]No no, it opposes Americans, the kind who don't follow right wing ideals.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://blog.richmond.edu/openwidelookinside/files/2010/11/thomas-jefferson.jpg[/IMG] ?
[QUOTE=staticman;29307296]Barton: There's groups out there that their business requires a whole lot more bandwidth than, say, you and I do sending emails. I mean, if you're Skype, you got a lot of bandwidth being used. If you're YouTube, you got a lot of bandwidth going with videos. Guess what? You got more bandwidth, you're going to have to pay a little more. Oh no. That's not fair. That's not Net Neutrality. Well, if you don't pay more, these broadband providers say "we're going to cut you off because you're using more of our space." Government says "that's not fair, you can't do that." Green: So when they say "selectively block," what they mean is we're not going to let you choose who you need to charge more to. Barton: That's right, that's exactly right. I mean, if Skype uses eighty-five percent of the server space, you can't charge them eighty-five percent of the fees because that would be unfair. And if Skype says "well, we don't want to pay that," and you say "well, you're off our server," no you can't do that. You can't kick them off just because they won't pay. I mean, this is crazy stuff. This is redistribution of wealth through the internet and it really is redistribution. This is socialism on the internet[/QUOTE] Speaking as a communications engineer in training, if I had a rifle, this man was making a speech and a neo-nazi convention was using the venue next, I'd fire the whole mag at this guy.
[QUOTE=Fort83;29311024]What doesn't the bible oppose nowadays?[/QUOTE] Slavery! :razz:
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