Queensland strengthens laws to ban bikie gangs and their clubs, police who question this have been t - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Queensland police who disagree with the crackdown on bikie gangs have been told to reconsider their future with the service. The Queensland Police Union (QPU) says internal emails sent to rank and file officers warn them to carry out the mission or be shown the door. One email says: "Government considers that we - the QPS Senior Executive - have failed to adequately and professionally respond to this matter - consider this in all your communication and thinking". "This is a crisis - has been compared to a terrorist act - we should be developing our strategies locally based on this type of thinking. "The mission is clear - to rid Queensland of criminal motorcycle gangs (CMG) - it is to be achieved in conjunction with normal business, priorities and the current change process - if this is not personally acceptable to you, consider your future with the QPS. "This is a long-term operation - its importance is to be reinforced at every opportunity - momentum is to be continued and grown in our response capability. You are to act lawfully at all times - however discretion in the application of the law to CMG members is not to be considered - the law is to be enforced to the letter. "You are required to develop meaningful longer-term strategies to irradiate [sic] all CMG activity and membership in your District - we will incorporate this into our weekly management process and the performance management process."[/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-21/officers-who-question-qld-police-bikies-crackdown-told-to-quit/5034698[/URL]

what the hell is a bikie do they mean biker ??? queensgland is weird

[QUOTE=Death_God;42592830]what the hell is a bikie do they mean biker ??? queensgland is weird[/QUOTE] Why Reply? On another note, this is good news. But wont it cause a little upraw over existing gangs ?

wow you guys are no fun

I'd laugh as an Australian biker gang came up to me and said they were a "bikie gang". Then they'd proceed to beat the living shit out of me until I was reduced to a thin red paste on the ground.

Yeah usually in English when you add an 'ie' to the end of things you're trying to make it sound all cutesy. Like when girls call me Jakie instead of Jake.

[QUOTE=elevate;42592885]I'd laugh as an Australian biker gang came up to me and said they were a "bikie gang". Then they'd proceed to beat the living shit out of me until I was reduced to a thin red paste on the ground.[/QUOTE] i wouldn't talk shit to bikies man [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivq5icJnGXk[/media]

[QUOTE=Death_God;42592872]wow you guys are no fun[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] rid Queensland of criminal motorcycle gangs (CMG)[/QUOTE] This seems to be about the stereotypical biker dudes out beating people to death and dealing meth. It's more like playing through The Lost and Damned rather than a bunch of middle aged dudes in leather jackets riding their motorcycle through your town.

[QUOTE=Death_God;42592872]wow you guys are no fun[/QUOTE] Yeah totally, because organised crime (drug trafficking, extortion rackets as well as gang warfare and violence in general) is fun for everyone else

[QUOTE=Antdawg;42592905]Yeah totally, because organised crime is fun for everyone else[/QUOTE] Wow how in the fuck did you discern that from his post. He was talking about everyone dumbing his first post

[QUOTE=Antdawg;42592905]Yeah totally, because organised crime is fun for everyone else[/QUOTE] lol you dont run a heroin empire??? wow you are missing out [editline]aaa[/editline] i mean um yeah what he said

i cook heroin in an rv

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42592938]i cook heroin in an rv[/QUOTE] wtf really are you talking about the rv down in that small georgia town dude i COOK THERE TOO

Gud. They've taken over a local pub in my town. My mate went in there for a drink and got told forcefully to leave because he wasn't part of a gang. They also shanked someone for dealing, he survived though. And I'm told they sell terrible drugs too, must be hard to find drivers that will take +15 years on their sentence. Until they go underground and piss the Queensland Police off even more.

I can't say I disagree. I don't know about Australia, but American law and justice was clearly not designed to deal with modern criminal gangs. The result is we have people openly identifying as members of a criminal organisation, which they can't be arrested for unless they in particular are caught committing a crime. And if they are, they're sent to a place where they're free start recruiting more of their kind.

[QUOTE=dude2193;42592864]On another note, this is good news. But wont it cause a little upraw over existing gangs ?[/QUOTE] How is it in any way good news? These are some of the most retarded laws ever to have come out of this country. The fact that simply being in a group of 3 or more people, regardless of if it is a formal group or not, is considered an association for the laws is ridiculous. And then if a single person has ever once attended the group, can then be considered a participant of the association and can face a lengthier sentence for any crime (regardless of participation by the group) is bad. It leaves a huge opening for the Qld Police to abuse the laws and further to even prosecute those that do not participate crime with bikies. Also, lel, mandatory sentencing and orders - constitutional fun.

lol, campbell newman overreacting to nothing once again.

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[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42593158]I can't say I disagree. I don't know about Australia, but American law and justice was clearly not designed to deal with modern criminal gangs. The result is we have people openly identifying as members of a criminal organisation, which they can't be arrested for unless they in particular are caught committing a crime. And if they are, they're sent to a place where they're free start recruiting more of their kind.[/QUOTE] Uh it's kind of a good thing that you only get arrested if you've committed a crime Can you imagine the abuse that would come with arrests for suspicion of being in a gang

The wording of it is pretty dodgy and part of it entails the attorney general of Queensland being able to override the high-court on keeping people in prison. Seems like Newman is trying to emulate Bjelke-Petersen which is awful

I really hope Victoria does something like this aswell, not long ago a few cop were fired for leaking info to the bikies and stuff, its really bad down here.

Why don't you guys just cut to the chase and accept the fact that Mad Max has always been your destiny

[QUOTE=breakyourfac;42592915]Wow how in the fuck did you discern that from his post. He was talking about everyone dumbing his first post[/QUOTE] Aussie logic? :eng101:

[QUOTE=Atlascore;42593187][i]Bikie..[/i] really? That has to be the most unfitting name I've ever heard for a criminal.[/QUOTE] Australian slang isn't the same as American slang, get used to it

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42593175]How is it in any way good news? These are some of the most retarded laws ever to have come out of this country. The fact that simply being in a group of 3 or more people, regardless of if it is a formal group or not, is considered an association for the laws is ridiculous. And then if a single person has ever once attended the group, can then be considered a participant of the association and can face a lengthier sentence for any crime (regardless of participation by the group) is bad. It leaves a huge opening for the Qld Police to abuse the laws and further to even prosecute those that do not participate crime with bikies. Also, lel, mandatory sentencing and orders - constitutional fun.[/QUOTE] This is at least giving them the powers to deal with them. I can as easily say they won't abuse their power and it has the same gravity as your statement. They want a deterrent, and I'm sure most the officers and other law enforcement personnel wouldn't have a vendetta against the bikies and abuse their power. Of course this will be a long, changing mission like they said. At least the courts and police are mostly transparent, and any ridiculous sentences have a chance to be thrown out (not being able to appeal won't hold up for long). I believe that is a better option than letting the violence and crime continue, and this is the best chance they have to bust the bikies that deserve it before they reorganise and hide themselves.

Queensland police have a long history of abusing their power, and even if they didn't why should we have stupid laws and hope they won't be abused?

I can understand the worry. I believe this is a step in right direction though. Definitely knee-jerky though.

[QUOTE=default911;42593528]This is at least giving them the powers to deal with them. I can as easily say they won't abuse their power and it has the same gravity as your statement. They want a deterrent, and I'm sure most the officers and other law enforcement personnel wouldn't have a vendetta against the bikies and abuse their power. [/QUOTE] Why pass laws which are not going to be used? They don't act as a deterrent if they're not going to be used. These laws, which are being passed by many states, not just QLD, are being done in a rash response to an event in September this year. There hasn't even been enough time for consultations to be considered and or tabled in Parliament.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;42593158]I can't say I disagree. I don't know about Australia, but American law and justice was clearly not designed to deal with modern criminal gangs. The result is we have people openly identifying as members of a criminal organisation, which they can't be arrested for unless they in particular are caught committing a crime. And if they are, they're sent to a place where they're free start recruiting more of their kind.[/QUOTE] wtf do you have any idea how dumb what you just said is you are seriously suggesting people should be arrested for being suspected of criminal activity. Not found guilty, just suspected.

[QUOTE=JaegerMonster;42593792]wtf do you have any idea how dumb what you just said is you are seriously suggesting people should be arrested for being suspected of criminal activity. Not found guilty, just suspected.[/QUOTE] No, belonging to a criminal organisation.