[video=youtube;BY_DqzLGpCk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY_DqzLGpCk[/video]
[QUOTE]As if you didn't know.
Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716844/Islamic-law-is-adopted-by-British-legal-chiefs.html[/url]
Government intervenes at school taken over by Muslim radicals
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10716855/Government-intervenes-at-school-taken-over-by-Muslim-radicals.html[/url]
Woman did not show her face at Heathrow airport
[url]http://www.asianimage.co.uk/news/11045595.Woman_did_not_show_face_at_Heathrow_Airport/[/url]
British schools where girls must wear the Islamic veil
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8038820/British-schools-where-girls-must-wear-the-Islamic-veil.html[/url]
Sharia courts "as consensual as rape"
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9621319/Sharia-courts-as-consensual-as-rape-House-of-Lords-told.html[/url]
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Oooh I've never seen a pat condell video on facepunch before. Let's see how this thread dictates FP's opinion on him for the next 4 years.
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44416996]Oooh I've never seen a pat condell video on facepunch before. Let's see how this thread dictates FP's opinion on him for the next 4 years.[/QUOTE]
Shh! Don't want people to think you're a racist.
But seriously, "Islam" isn't a race. Arab or Turk is, but religion is not equal to race.
I'll have you know I'm completely indifferent to Pat Condell. Don't drag me into this.
lovin that video man story of my life
I've heard about this guy before, and my general opinion of him is that he is a fucking idiot.
Most of his video's are about the so-called "Islamisation of western society", which basically is just shot after shot about his Islamophobic views. He sees Islam as a threat, and tries to convince his viewers to "stand up" against the "evergrowing threat" as he sees it.
These is what his fanbase consists of.
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/eFZ38PU.png[/img]
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[QUOTE=Sokrates;44417653]I've heard about this guy before, and my general opinion of him is that he is a fucking idiot.
Most of his video's are about the so-called "Islamisation of western society", which basically is just shot after shot about his Islamophobic views. He sees Islam as a threat, and tries to convince his viewers to "stand up" against the "evergrowing threat" as he sees it.
These is what his fanbase consists of.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/RIwrBiP.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eFZ38PU.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/3QvJhzo.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Where's the British "if they come here they should live by our rules" attitude?
You too can make your own home grown Strawman!
Step 1: Make an unassailable claim.
First you got to set up with a vague statement nobody can disagree with, that way everyone has to agree with you!
Examples, Murder is bad, criminals should be punished, people should be free.
Step 2: Talk about how bad it is to go against your unassailable claim.
Second, you have to tell your listener how bad it is to go against you claim, again they need to be statements that nobody can ever go against! You need to prime your audience to feel disgust for people who you say go against your claim.
Examples, people die when they are murdered, criminals did bad things and need to pay, freedom is the most important thing.
Step 3: Talk about how your opponent is going against your claim.
You need to now paint a target for your audience, tell the audience that your opponent likes to go against your unassailable claim. Make sure you also play yourself as a victim to your opponent to gain sympathy of your audience.
Example, my opponent thinks: murder is good, criminals should be free to do crime, tyranny is the way to go.
Step 4: Repeat.
Keep repeating and repeating and putting words into your opponents mouth. The more you say it, the more correct it is! You need to make sure that your audience knows just how much of an awful person your opponent is, regardless of any actual merits their side of the argument has.
Now you have the perfect strawman to win an argument with!
[QUOTE=Valnar;44417771]You too can make your own home grown Strawman!
Step 1: Make an unassailable claim.
First you got to set up with a vague statement nobody can disagree with, that way everyone has to agree with you!
Examples, Murder is bad, criminals should be punished, people should be free.
Step 2: Talk about how bad it is to go against your unassailable claim.
Second, you have to tell your listener how bad it is to go against you claim, again they need to be statements that nobody can ever go against! You need to prime your audience to feel disgust for people who you say go against your claim.
Examples, people die when they are murdered, criminals did bad things and need to pay, freedom is the most important thing.
Step 3: Talk about how your opponent is going against your claim.
You need to now paint a target for your audience, tell the audience that your opponent likes to go against your unassailable claim. Make sure you also play yourself as a victim to your opponent to gain sympathy of your audience.
Example, my opponent thinks: murder is good, criminals should be free to do crime, tyranny is the way to go.
Step 4: Repeat.
Keep repeating and repeating and putting words into your opponents mouth. The more you say it, the more correct it is! You need to make sure that your audience knows just how much of an awful person your opponent is, regardless of any actual merits their side of the argument has.
Now you have the perfect strawman to win an argument with![/QUOTE]
But he's not using a straw man, he pretty much repeats this on every video he makes and refers to the sources, how does he create a straw man from that?
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44417756]Where's the British "if they come here they should live by our rules" attitude?[/QUOTE]
What. You are making it sound like the majority of Muslims aren't following U.K rules, which THEY ARE btw.
You are basing your knowledge off of a few sensationalized articles about "radical muslims imposing sharia law". It's almost like comparing WBC to all other christian groups in the world.
[QUOTE=Sokrates;44418017]What. You are making it sound like the majority of Muslims aren't following U.K rules, which THEY ARE btw.
You are basing your knowledge off of a few sensationalized articles about "radical muslims imposing sharia law". It's almost like comparing WBC to all other christian groups in the world.[/QUOTE]
They're not sansationalist, it's not a secret that Islam or any religion for that matter wants to be preferred and given more rights, I mean comeon.
what are you basing your knowledge off of?, I see shit like this all the time.
Every time a Muslim gets offended somewhere, the offender gets death threats, shit changes.
Just because of his religion, wtf is this shit?
This didn't happen before, so obviously people are pissed, this not sensationalist.
this is what's actually happening.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7RP5K/42266b9b11.png[/IMG]
LoL
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44418093][b]Every time a Muslim gets offended somewhere, the offender gets death threats, shit changes.[/b][/quote]
[i]Every single time?[/i]
[quote]This didn't happen before[/quote]
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition]Yes it has.[/URL]
[quote]this is what's actually happening.
[IMG]http://puu.sh/7RP5K/42266b9b11.png[/IMG]
LoL[/QUOTE]
He sounds like a nice guy. Why you gotta be a dick.
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44418235][i]Every single time?[/i]
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition]Yes it has.[/URL]
He sounds like a nice guy. Why you gotta be a dick.[/QUOTE]
yes, every singe fucking time a muslim gets offended, a dedicated team of fundamentalist muslims start harassing and calling death threats, most of them don't even understand wtf is going on, they just come and say "fuck you in Arabic" and Allhu akbar.
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, i wish I was kidding.
What does the Spanish inquisition have to do with this?, I'm talking about modern times.
Most of the briths I talked to said that they hate the shit that's going on right now, and that they're very disappointed that the government is allowing this to happen.
I saw that he was British so I was kind of confused for second, then obviously he's Muslim.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44418258]yes, every singe fucking time a muslim gets offended, a dedicated team of fundamentalist muslims start harassing and calling death threats, most of them don't even understand wtf is going on, they just come and say "fuck you in Arabic" and Allhu akbar.
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME, i wish I was kidding.[/quote]
I can speak from personal experience that I have offended a muslim and I have never received a single death threat.
[quote]What does the Spanish inquisition have to do with this?, I'm talking about modern times.[/quote]
All you did was say that this has never happened before. When it has. And will continue to happen for centuries as long as there are people who get pissed off. This isn't a Muslim exclusive thing.
[quote]I saw that he was British so I was kind of confused for second, then obviously he's Muslim.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't excuse being a dick
[QUOTE=Asmaedus;44418297]I can speak from personal experience that I have offended a muslim and I have never received a single death threat.
All you did was say that this has never happened before. When it has. And will continue to happen for centuries as long as there are people who get pissed off. This isn't a Muslim exclusive thing.
That doesn't excuse being a dick[/QUOTE]
I thought that Christians were sensitive before, then I met Muslims.
Obviously this is not exclusive thing, but when you're taking the severity into account, Islam wins.
Also, how am I being a dick?, is telling the truth considered being a dick now?
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