Climate change escalating so fast it is 'beyond point of no return' - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Global warming is beyond the “point of no return”, according to the lead scientist behind a ground-breaking climate change study. The full impact of climate change has been underestimated because scientists haven't taken into account a major source of carbon in the environment. Dr Thomas Crowther’s report has concluded that carbon emitted from soil was speeding up global warming. The findings, which say temperatures will increase by 1C by 2050, are already being adopted by the United Nations.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/donald-trump-climate-change-policy-global-warming-expert-thomas-crowther-a7450236.html[/url]

Yeah, we know. I'm goin to Mars with Elon.

Makes me question if I'll even bother to raise kids really. I guess I won't if that's the world they'll have to grow up in

So can we charge Exxon with crimes against humanity for their role in knowingly covering up and delaying action on climate change instead of warning us and taking action?

What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] thats like sinking a boat harder

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] Do you just want to accelerate the process and make it happen in a faster time frame or something?

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] To not kill us faster? To at-least ensure there's a chance of some survival?

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] The less shit you put out the more time it buys us to develop viable carbon capture methods that work on a mass scale?

When the older generation dies out (I don't mean to sound morbid) we'll have the right people in charge hopefully to all make progress together but I do fear we're too late.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] It's like trying to put out a forest fire, and someone tells you it's already destroyed most of the eco-system and towns, the forest will never be the same. Just because it's hit the worst care scenario doesn't mean you don't stop fighting the fire though. You keep fighting it and try to make the best of the situation.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;51464964]You're in Canada, even at the worst climate change will throw at us, you and your family will be fine. It's the people living in undeveloped countries, near the equator, or on the coast that are in danger. God help those that are living under all three conditions.[/QUOTE] Uh I live in a coastal city That's literally nonsense pulled from your own ass

[QUOTE=Atlascore;51464964]You're in Canada, even at the worst climate change will throw at us, you and your family will be fine. It's the people living in undeveloped countries, near the equator, or on the coast that are in danger. God help those that are living under all three conditions.[/QUOTE] Well except the food supply issue and refugee crises.

And as if the global impacts won't be felt, you know, globally.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] "The house is going to be irreparably damaged anyways so why not just throw the rest of the gas on it instead of doing what we can to rectify it as much as possible?" [editline]2nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Atlascore;51464964]You're in Canada, even at the height of the disastrous effects of climate change, you and your family will be fine. It's the people living in undeveloped countries, near the equator, or on the coast that are in danger. God help those that are living under all three conditions.[/QUOTE] Erm, you [I]do[/I] realize that climate change doesn't simply affect weather and temperature, right? Climate change is causing a mass extinction event on Earth. And due to us the oceans are becoming more and more acidic. If we fuck up the oceans bad enough we'll cause an extinction event that will leave us without one of the major sources of oxygen on this planet. So no, you're not safe anywhere.

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] Alright, why are you begging for an excuse to not do anything about this? [editline]2nd December 2016[/editline] Like, is there a reason?

Google says if all the ice melts the sea will rise 70 meters. I will have waterfront property at like 15 meters. after that I am fucked.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51464923]Makes me question if I'll even bother to raise kids really. I guess I won't if that's the world they'll have to grow up in[/QUOTE] At the beginning of this year I was adamant I wanted a kid one day, and at the end of this year I'm adamant that I don't want to bring a kid into this world because I would just be adding to the suffering and I would be bringing a child destined to have a real shit life into the world

This guy is saying that carbon from the ground is speeding things up? What?

[QUOTE=King Tiger;51464930]What's the incentive to stop using fossil fuels if this is true?[/QUOTE] what's the incentive not to comitt mass global suicide if we're all gonna die someday anyway?

[QUOTE=Glaber;51465032]This guy is saying that carbon from the ground is speeding things up? What?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]The report, by an exhaustive list of researchers and published in the Nature journal, assembled data from 49 field experiments over the last 20 years in North America, Europe and Asia. It found that the majority of the Earth’s terrestrial store of carbon was in soil, and that as the atmosphere warms up, increasing amounts are emitted in what is a vicious cycle of “positive feedbacks”. “As the climate warms, those organisms become more active and the more active they become, the more the soil respires – exactly the same as human beings," said Dr Crowther, who headed up the study at Yale Climate & Energy Institute, but is now a Marie Curie fellow at the Netherlands Institute of Ecology. [/QUOTE]

Dear God, we're well and truly fucked.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;51465043]Then move in land. For the rest of humanity isn't going to be that simple. I mean the only country that has a land border with you is the United States, so you're not going to going to experience the apocalyptic levels of mass migration other nations in the far north will experience due to the rising temperatures suddenly making large swaths of their land livable.[/QUOTE] It's not exactly as simple as higher global temperature = cold places become more livable.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;51465043]Then move in land. For the rest of humanity isn't going to be that simple. I mean the only country that has a land border with you is the United States, so you're not going to going to experience the apocalyptic levels of mass migration other nations in the far north will experience due to the rising temperatures suddenly making large swaths of their land livable.[/QUOTE] Good job completely ignoring where I pointed out global warming isn't simply a matter of weather, lol.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;51464948]When the older generation dies out (I don't mean to sound morbid) we'll have the right people in charge hopefully to all make progress together but I do fear we're too late.[/QUOTE] Not to be soul crushing, but I doubt it. The old farts that ruin the world now have children and when they die their shit kids are gonna be just as bad because they'll still have those same stakes in fossil fuels. There'll be climate change denying businessmen a fucking day before the apocalypse if it means preserving their bottom line. We'll get there eventually but it's gonna be a fight all the way even when the old fucks die. The only hope I can have is that we're overblowing stuff and when we do make these big changes it's enough that we're not all gonna fucking die out, even if we do have to deal with consequences for thousands of years.

Guess its time to start blowing up a bunch of shit so the debris goes into the atmosphere and blocks the suns rays enough to even it out.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;51464927]So can we charge Exxon with crimes against humanity for their role in knowingly covering up and delaying action on climate change instead of warning us and taking action?[/QUOTE] None of the people responsible will suffer a single consequence in their lifetime, they'll just be remembered as monsters afterwards.

[QUOTE=Atlascore;51464964]You're in Canada, even at the height of the disastrous effects of climate change, you and your family will be fine. It's the people living in undeveloped countries, near the equator, or on the coast that are in danger. God help those that are living under all three conditions.[/QUOTE] My province already suffered from warmer winters that didn't kill of the destructive Mountain Pine beetle which can wreck the forestry industry the interior depends on. Plus we have a massive amount of freshwater that everyone's going to want when they start running out :v:

I wonder if we will come out of this as a better or worse global society. You know, after all the mass starvation and extinction events.

[QUOTE=Morgen;51465081]It's not exactly as simple as higher global temperature = cold places become more livable.[/QUOTE] Yep. "Global warming" is a pretty unhelpful term, and it's why climate change is much more useful (and what scientists generally use from what I've seen, global warming is for us normies.) On average things are getting warmer, and there are pockets that are cooling too. But it also does things like wreaking absolute havoc on ecosystems, who can't simply adjust like we do, destroying food-chains with ripple effects hurting us. It can also worsen weather effects, such as increasing the strength of El Nino and hurricanes which means that for places that experience typhoons/hurricanes and monsoons, simply moving a bit more inland to escape the rising sea water won't work. We have potentially dying oceans, as aquatic ecosystems for the most part are very sensitive. And there's other more far off potential problems such as thermohaline circulations in the ocean declining/shutting down. You thought Europe was already cold? haaaah.