• White People
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJnkBqwzOQ[/media] Yeah, generalizations!
Instantly made me think of this: [video]https://youtu.be/6CmzT4OV-w0[/video]
that comment about feeling something belongs to you because you're white, what?
Doesn't seem like it's really saying anything that hasn't already been said but hey at least they're getting people to acknowledge race issues in the US.
[QUOTE=cdr248;48157319]Doesn't seem like it's really saying anything that hasn't already been said but hey at least they're getting people to acknowledge race issues in the US.[/QUOTE] you know I've found it funny growing up around a hispanicly dominated area, the so called race issue was barely there with the white people, but it was with non-white people. I remember walking a friend home and she was scared shit because I crossed into the gang territory where she lived and was white. The people who greatly push the white privilege narrative are the most racist and sexist people I've met. Edit: I take that back, there was a scary guy when I was in kindergarten who tried to shove a sactanic bible in front of my face, he was latino, but that's not the point.
Someone finally figured out that making fun of white people trend = $$$ I bet this will hit bit with the self-loathing white people out there yes yes there are advantages to being white, but focusing on them in a negative way instead of focusing on the positives of other races and cultures seems like a shit idea. I'm just more of a positive person I guess
i cant wait till they make a series on all the unfair advantages of blacks like affirmative action can you imagine the uproar if they did? every race has advantages and disadvantages
The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.
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[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48158088]The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.[/QUOTE] I hope this is a joke. This is flat out racist.
[QUOTE=Lord of Boxes;48158118]I hope this is a joke. This is flat out racist.[/QUOTE] Equal Opportunity should never equal determinism. Edit: I have reached 747, I am now a Boeing Jet.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48158172]Equal Opportunity should never equal determinism.[/QUOTE] We should be seeking equal opportunity. Now going for 100% equal outcomes.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48158088]The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.[/QUOTE] As if the color of your skin has an intrinsic value from which you can contribute to academia. Affirmative action based on race is the shittiest idea -- at least make it more based off an individual's socioeconomic status rather than banking on the possibility that they [I]might[/I] have experienced racism at one point in their life.
What I hate about this trend is that it assumes that all white people have equal privilege and have pretty much the same culture. As an Ashkenazi, I have a very different experience and culture than my Armenian or Slavic friends.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48158088]The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.[/QUOTE] Affirmative action is such a retarded concept. How did anyone come to the conclusion that reverse racial discrimination is a good thing
[QUOTE=Svinnik;48158235]What I hate about this trend is that it assumes that all white people have equal privilege and have pretty much the same culture. As an Ashkenazi, I have a very different experience and culture than my Armenian or Slavic friends.[/QUOTE] A very big problem with it is that most wish to tear down those who have it better than others instead of, y'know, giving a helping hand and bringing the disenfranchised up to their level. In the end, it doesn't matter about Race, it matters how wealthy you are. And in the USA, I don't necessarily see that there's no actual restrictions on how much wealth you can have if you're Asian, Black, Caucasian, etc.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;48158246]Affirmative action is such a retarded concept. How did anyone come to the conclusion that reverse racial discrimination is a good thing[/QUOTE] Funny how this new progressive racism still fucks over Asians.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48158088]The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.[/QUOTE] Having people with different skin colors literally makes everything more efficient didnt you know
Personally the only times i've experienced racial issues, it has never been instigated by me or another white person. ESPECIALLY the black community, for some reason a lot of my black friends LOVE to stir up racial issues over nothing. I once said that I simply am attracted to white girls for no particular reason, just a preference similar to how a black person can only prefer black girls, or a man can prefer another man, etc etc.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;48158246]Affirmative action is such a retarded concept. How did anyone come to the conclusion that reverse racial discrimination is a good thing[/QUOTE] no such thing as "reverse racial discrimination," anyone can be discriminated against on the basis of race - a black employer refusing to hire a white applicant is not "reverse discrimination," it's plain old discrimination. Affirmative action is called "positive discrimination," and everyone knows it's discriminatory. That's the exact purpose of affirmative action. Hell, the equal-opportunity employment act is considered "affirmative action." It's not anti-white discrimination, it's pro-minority discrimination, giving them the opportunity to break out of social molds that bring about racism. It's harder to hate on a race when they're normalized into higher education and science and other fields - if affirmative action had never happened, you'd see far, far more impoverished black people and far more educated white people, and it's almost certain that you'd continue to see high levels of racism in higher education. I agree that it's very outdated and it's (mostly) served its purpose. We need a system that focuses more on equality of opportunity based on poverty instead of race. I'd much rather see equal opportunity than equal outcome - but equal opportunity does not exist in this country simply because the quality of our education system is regional. If you're the valedictorian of an inner-city high school in Chicago going up against the valedictorian of a very wealthy and competitive suburb in Virginia, you're probably fucked. Affirmative action served to correct that, and it does its job - but I'd much rather see it on the basis of poverty rather than race.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;48158088]The website they've created is really top notch. Take, for example, this amazing graph. [thumb]http://i.cubeupload.com/Rbfs8i.jpg[/thumb] I, for one, always make my graphs without having any numbers or citations.[/QUOTE] Diversity is strength, goy! [sp]Remember the six gorillion.[/sp]
I love being white.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48158705]Diversity is strength, goy! [sp]Remember the sixty gorillion.[/sp][/QUOTE] FTFY
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;48158246]Affirmative action is such a retarded concept. How did anyone come to the conclusion that reverse racial discrimination is a good thing[/QUOTE] Its not a stupid concept, t has a legit purpose. The problem with Affirmative Action is that it doesn't have the infrastructure nor cultural willingness to be backed up. None of the public educational schools that are predominantly black prepare these kids at all for college and so you end up with so many dropping outta college.
[QUOTE=Ithon;48157423]you know I've found it funny growing up around a hispanicly dominated area, the so called race issue was barely there with the white people, but it was with non-white people. I remember walking a friend home and she was scared shit because I crossed into the gang territory where she lived and was white. The people who greatly push the white privilege narrative are the most racist and sexist people I've met.[/QUOTE] Isn't that because people usually think white people have life as a cakewalk just for being white? offtopic I'm white, but people have called me a jew, a taliban, a hindu, an arab, and a few other names just because I'm a bit tanned and apparently look somewhat exotic :v:
[QUOTE=SirSmokeALot4;48157623]i cant wait till they make a series on all the unfair advantages of blacks like affirmative action can you imagine the uproar if they did? every race has advantages and disadvantages[/QUOTE] While this statement is true in theory it obscures the issue at hand. Because we are talking about systemic discrimination that has become cultural and internalized, not the advantages/disadvantages white skin has for getting a sun tan... [editline]9th July 2015[/editline] It is uncontroversial to think that being poor severely limits one's opportunities in America, but for some reason yall don't think that one's race may carry with it similar restrictions?...
[QUOTE=kweh;48158789]Isn't that because people usually think white people have life as a cakewalk just for being white? [/QUOTE] It's actually because most people who push the "white guilt" narrative live in well-off white-majority (or reasonably gentrified) neighborhoods where racial diversity is having a couple women wearing hijabs in your art discussions or going to grab some Chinese food next to the Urban Outfitters. It's a meaningless phrase cooked up by people who want in on racial guilt and a sense of accomplishment (we're working towards Progress!) In what is otherwise a vapid, plastic life. It's worth noting that most people "grow out" of white guilt/shame in the same way people "grow out" of being an angsty goth in high school. [editline]9th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Flameon;48158821] [B]It is uncontroversial to think that being poor severely limits one's opportunities in America[/B], but for some reason yall don't think that one's race may carry with it similar restrictions?...[/QUOTE] Really? Because I'd argue the opposite. Most people try to make it a race issue because the alternative is recognizing the problem is economic, and not only does that mean [I]they're[/I] the oppressor but the only way to "fix" the problem is give something up in their cushy little bubble. Making a couple banners and crying with your black friend is a lot easier than volunteering at the local homeless shelter or building a house with Habitat for Humanity.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;48158856] Really? Because I'd argue the opposite. Most people try to make it a race issue because the alternative is recognizing the problem is economic, and not only does that mean [I]they're[/I] the oppressor but the only way to "fix" the problem is give something up in their cushy little bubble. Making a couple banners and crying with your black friend is a lot easier than volunteering at the local homeless shelter or building a house with Habitat for Humanity.[/QUOTE] I'm talking about on this website, you are right though that there is a vested interest in the public sphere generally from discussing wealth inequality. I do think though that it is not as strong as the sanction against talking abou race issues. Your critique is also a bit mispalced because whether you believe in a structural system of wealth inequality or one of white supremacy in both cases it requires a recognition that [I]they're[/I] the opressor, and would require those wanting to fix the problem to [I]give[/I] something up. In the case of wealth inequality it would be their material possessions, and in the case of white supremacy it would be the social capital that comes from being white.
[QUOTE=Flameon;48158922]I'm talking about on this website, you are right though that there is a vested interest in the public sphere generally from discussing wealth inequality. I do think though that it is not as strong as the sanction against talking abou race issues. Your critique is also a bit mispalced because whether you believe in a structural system of wealth inequality or one of white supremacy in both cases it requires a recognition that [I]they're[/I] the opressor, and would require those wanting to fix the problem to [I]give[/I] something up. In the case of wealth inequality it would be their material possessions, and in the case of white supremacy it would be the social capital that comes from being white.[/QUOTE] Within a society that isn't as prosperous as the USA is, then it would require people to give something up. However with the way it's situated people can be brought up instead of torn down. When you advocate people giving away their things, some which they earned through their own blood and sweat, then you will get backlash. No one wants things they've worked for to pass away, especially for something that haven't done.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor1;48158995]Within a society that isn't as prosperous as the USA is, then it would require people to give something up. However with the way it's situated people can be brought up instead of torn down. When you advocate people giving away their things, some which they earned through their own blood and sweat, then you will get backlash. No one wants things they've worked for to pass away, especially for something that haven't done.[/QUOTE] No question it generates backlash. Part of the truth I find in these systemic critiques (i.e: institutions be them legal, cultural, or otherwise, invested in class/race/etc) is the point that your gains, or your parents, didn't occour in a vaccume. its not like every generation enters the world tabula rasa and then makes or breaks when they hit 30, then enter our cultured society. From the moment you are born you are born INTO a white supremacist / capitalist society. The advantages you get from being on the right side of the antagonism (poor vs rich, white vs black, etc) are too numerous to count, and sometimes too subtle to even detect.
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