91 year old polish woman pronounced dead; asks for a cup of tea when found alive in morgue
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[I]The doctor said she checked for a pulse on the woman's forearm and neck arteries, listened for a heartbeat and the sound of breathing, and checked the pupils for reaction to light, but found none.[/I]
[quote=nbcmiami]A Polish doctor says she has been in "deep shock" since learning that a 91-year-old woman she pronounced dead woke up in a morgue several hours later.
The doctor — identified in the media as Wieslawa C. — said on TVN24 television Friday that she was sure the patient was dead after finding "no basic life functions" during a morning house call on Nov. 6.
She said she checked for a pulse on a forearm and neck arteries, listened for a heartbeat and the sound of breathing, and checked the pupils for reaction to light, but found none. "If I had had doubts, I would have called the ambulance, done an electrocardiogram, but I was sure that the patient is dead," the doctor said.
The doctor examined the elderly woman, identified by the media as Janina Kolkiewicz, in the eastern town of Ostrow Lubelski after relatives noticed she was not breathing.
Some two hours after she was pronounced dead the woman was taken to the morgue. Shortly before midnight, an undertaker who brought in another body noticed that Kolkiewicz was moving inside a bag she had been placed in. Once it was opened, she complained of being cold and asked for hot tea, the media said. She was then taken home.
A spokeswoman for the local prosecutors, Beata Syk-Jankowska, told The Associated Press that she had never heard of such a case before, and that prosecutors are investigating whether the patient's life and health were endangered by the inaccurate death diagnosis.[/quote]
[url="http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/weird/91-Year-Old-Polish-Woman-Wakes-up-in-Morgue-Asks-for-Tea-282741361.html"]tiny bit more in source[/url]
fuck; imagine being the worker who finds the person still alive in the morgue. I'd probably have to do a double take to see if I was crazy if I saw a bodybag moving in the morgue. At least the woman is okay
[quote]Once it was opened, she complained of being cold and asked for hot tea[/quote]
Stay classy, even in these situations.
[editline]17th November 2014[/editline]
No, really: even through she is Polish, I just imagined how undertaker opened a bag, elderly lady rose up... and said in Cockney accent "It's quite cold here, chap, could you care for some tea?"
second coming of female christ
People think of death as some well-defined state of being, where you are gone for good. In reality there are many definitions of death. Are you talking about cell death? Brain death due to lack of oxygenation? What percentage of the body needs to be dead before the whole body is considered "dead"? It's not easy to answer these questions sometimes. Add into the mix the fact that the human body is pretty damn hard to kill, and you get stories like this.
Its amazing how the body can essential reboot.
Stuff like this scares the hell out of me for some reason.
[QUOTE=Splash Attack;46510650]Stuff like this scares the hell out of me for some reason.[/QUOTE]
Maybe because this is the stuff from horror movies?
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;46510641]People think of death as some well-defined state of being, where you are gone for good. In reality there are many definitions of death. Are you talking about cell death? Brain death due to lack of oxygenation? What percentage of the body needs to be dead before the whole body is considered "dead"? It's not easy to answer these questions sometimes. Add into the mix the fact that the human body is pretty damn hard to kill, and you get stories like this.[/QUOTE]
To get pronounced dead you need to pass several key things, it's not just "Oh this woman doesn't have a heartbeat, off to the morgue with ya!"
This wouldn't have happened if the Doctor had a gun.
Awww, what a sweet old lady! She wants a cup of tea! I'm glad she's okay!
There was this story on a brazilian kid that woke up, asked for water and collapsed after that, is it going to be a thing to wake up from the dead and ask for something to drink now?
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46510718]There was this story on a brazilian kid that woke up, asked for water and collapsed after that, is it going to be a thing to wake up from the dead and ask for something to drink now?[/QUOTE]
Probably dehydration depending on how long they've been out. Though in this case it was probably a combination of that and needing heat.
Those crazy poles.
Sounds like something out of a lost episode of Father Ted.
Maybe she learned that there wasn't any tea in the afterlife and got straight back out.
Or maybe the Doctor isn't telling the full story or skipped over some vital information which sounds far more likely.
[QUOTE=Splash Attack;46510650]Stuff like this scares the hell out of me for some reason.[/QUOTE]
Dying and waking up again while buried is a scary thought.
[QUOTE=mochisushi;46510700]This wouldn't have happened if the Doctor had a gun.[/QUOTE]
"She's dead."
"But doctor, she's breathi..."
BANG
"See? Dead."
[QUOTE=CMB Unit 01;46511097]Dying and waking up again while buried is a scary thought.[/QUOTE]
Well considering enbalming and autopsy are common practice in a good many countries, the chances of that are virtually zero. Maybe if you're amish, but even then. Bodies are usually set to cool before being buried and there's the whole funeral service thing.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;46510718]There was this story on a brazilian kid that woke up, asked for water and collapsed after that, is it going to be a thing to wake up from the dead and ask for something to drink now?[/QUOTE]
If I'd come back from the dead, I wouldn't ask for tea. I'd want whiskey, and lots of it.
[QUOTE=DrAkcel;46510564]Stay classy, even in these situations.
[editline]17th November 2014[/editline]
No, really: even through she is Polish, I just imagined how undertaker opened a bag, elderly lady rose up... and said in Cockney accent "It's quite cold here, chap, could you care for some tea?"[/QUOTE]
sort of like the james bond in n[I]ever say never[/I], gets out of the wrapings and asks for a smoke
If I was the worker in the morgue I would have died of a heart attack.
[QUOTE=Headhumpy;46512201]If I was the worker in the morgue I would have died of a heart attack.[/QUOTE]
But then you would have just come back to life a little bit later
SO what is the definition of "completely dead"? FUBAR'd vital organs?
[QUOTE=Nitro836;46512299]SO what is the definition of "completely dead"? FUBAR'd vital organs?[/QUOTE]
exploded and cut up into tiny bits and then being blasted into the sun
[QUOTE=Nitro836;46512299]SO what is the definition of "completely dead"? FUBAR'd vital organs?[/QUOTE]
Probably the same definition that paramedics use.
Paramedics can't declare a patient dead, so they have to treat them as alive unless there is decapitation, decomposition, or dependent lividity (blood pooling in lower portions of the body).
Dumb question, but blood must still have been flowing in her body right, and she must still have been breathing?
[QUOTE=Swebonny;46512715]Dumb question, but blood must still have been flowing in her body right, and she must still have been breathing?[/QUOTE]
It's hard to know, you would think yes, because she's doing fine now; but could it possibly be that her body was working at an incredibly slow pace similar to hypothermia?
Because the doctor found her to have no pulse or lung response leads me to believe this might be attributed to Lazarus symdrome (aptly named, eh?) [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_syndrome[/URL]
[quote=wiki]Lazarus syndrome or autoresuscitation after failed cardiopulmonary resuscitation is the spontaneous return of circulation after failed attempts at resuscitation. Its occurrence has been noted in medical literature at least 38 times since 1982. Also called Lazarus phenomenon, it takes its name from Lazarus who, according to the New Testament, was raised from the dead by Jesus.
Occurrences of the syndrome are extremely rare and the causes are not well understood. [/quote]
but the fact that there was no resuscitation performed on her kind of makes me think this isn't a case of lazarus syndrome
this case is also similar to one of the cases on the wiki page
[quote=wiki]A 45-year-old woman in Colombia was pronounced dead, as there were no vital signs showing she was alive. Later, a funeral worker noticed the woman moving and alerted his co-worker that the woman should go back to the hospital.[/quote]
but that one case doesn't really go into the details.
Is she a zombie now because she 'woke' up from the dead?
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