• Syria's Assad claims upper hand in war 'turning point'
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[QUOTE]President Assad made the comments in an address at Damascus University, His forces have been steadily recapturing rebel-held towns near the Lebanese border for several months. More than 150,000 people have been killed in the conflict, with millions forced to flee their homes. "This is a turning point in the crisis," President Assad said. He added that his army was winning what he called "the war against terror". Government forces have secured the main north-south highway in Syria in recent months, and have cut off vital supply routes for rebel forces. President Assad is expected to announce that he will stand for a third term as leader. The BBC's Lyse Doucet says the comments make clear that he is not willing to stand down despite repeated calls for him to go by armed opposition groups and their Western and Arab backers.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27016020[/url]
its for the best, id rather have him than the loonies.
It's time for this war to come to an end. At the end of the day, as much as it pains me to say it, Assad might be the less crazy party now.
I'd rather it just stop alltogether. I'm rooting for the people caught in the line of fire.
This was just religious hate at play like always. Sunnis hate the Shias who are in charge. Good luck and Godspeed to Assad.
Assad might win the war, but the countries surrounding Syria are the ones who'll feel long last effects from this conflict. Turkey's southern border has constant skirmishes, Iraq is in the middle of a new civil war, Lebanon is getting dragged into the conflict, and Israel is playing peacekeepers in the Golan Heights. I try not to advocate genocide, but I honestly hope the ISIS and Al Nursar forces are either captured or killed off. They have done so many horrible things to the people of Syria and surrounding countries, that I find it hard to sympathize with them. Another problem is jihadis attempting to return to their home countries with their new obtained knowledge. The last thing we need is a fucking bomb going off somewhere in Europe.
As much as both sides have done terrible stuff I think Assads government is more capable.
If Assad manages to rebuild Syria to what it was before this whole shitstorm, he's one hell of a leader.
[QUOTE=Swineflu;44540534]If Assad manages to rebuild Syria to what it was before this whole shitstorm, he's one hell of a leader.[/QUOTE] Who knows, he might just turn out to be a Malcolm X
Assad has been winning for a year or so. The rebels turned against each other before the war was over.
[QUOTE=Swineflu;44540534]If Assad manages to rebuild Syria to what it was before this whole shitstorm, he's one hell of a leader.[/QUOTE] I'd say that the fact that he is an autocratic tyrant who has full control and support of his military and has terrified the entire populace into submission would give him the upper hand there.
Here's hoping the violence will end swiftly, but not before someone offs the cunt.
boo
[QUOTE=Winters;44540375]It's time for this war to come to an end. At the end of the day, as much as it pains me to say it, Assad might be the less crazy party now.[/QUOTE] Except Assad has death camps, and they're still going to be running long after the war ends...
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44542420]Except Assad has death camps, and they're still going to be running long after the war ends...[/QUOTE] That's why the possibility that he's the most reasonable one is so tragic.
[QUOTE=IKTM;44542451]That's why the possibility that he's the most reasonable one is so tragic.[/QUOTE] Or maybe, just maybe. If Assad wasn't allowed to remain so unopposed and so powerful for so long then he would have been disposed of and the country would have progressed forwards towards I don't know, actually electing someone this time. Like what happened in Ukraine. This "Assad or Crazy Islamists" is a fallacy.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44542470]Or maybe, just maybe. If Assad wasn't allowed to remain so unopposed and so powerful for so long then he would have been disposed of and the country would have progressed forwards towards I don't know, actually electing someone this time. Like what happened in Ukraine. This "Assad or Crazy Islamists" is a fallacy.[/QUOTE] The now gov in ukraine wasn't elected though. As for assad I have a feeling he won't be let off the hook. Once the extremists die down it will be a tug of war between interested parties for what happens to that country.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;44542486]The now gov in ukraine wasn't elected though.[/QUOTE] I guess you don't know what an interim government is... elections are scheduled.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;44542500]I guess you don't know what an interim government is... elections are scheduled.[/QUOTE] Then they shouldn't pass serious laws till those elections are held. That is undemocratic, forcing policies on people, people feeling misrepresented leads to bad things.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;44542517]Then they shouldn't pass serious laws till those elections are held. That is undemocratic, forcing policies on people, people feeling misrepresented leads to bad things.[/QUOTE] you're in the wrong thread buddy but you're still wrong
[QUOTE=IKTM;44542451]That's why the possibility that he's the most reasonable one is so tragic.[/QUOTE] Yep, totally reasonable, like imprisoning 11,000+ people and torturing them, or responding to demonstrators by gunning them down and shelling towns for protesting against corruption and human rights abuses. I'm not saying the rebels are pure, obviously not It's war, and since the majority are now part of extremist groups, It's terrible, but it doesn't make Assad better. It's hard to say which would be the better choice, since either way it will most likely end up worse.
I'm not sure there will be anything [i]left[/i] of the country by the time both sides stop fighting... Who ever "wins", gets to lead a country where much of the infrastructure has been ruined, [url=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMbNxRCYAEws_V.jpg:large]where entire cities have been bombed out[/url], [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26864485]and where [b]9.5 million people[/b] -nearly half of the country's population, have fled.[/url]
The harsh reality is that Assad will keep shit together in the end. ISIS, FSA, and Al Nursa will cause the country to fall into a civil war, and will most likely will drag countries like Turkey, deeper into the conflict. This already has occurred with Lebanon, and if Turkey goes to war, we are going to war. That's a simple reality.
[QUOTE=theblah12;44543634]I'm not sure there will be anything [i]left[/i] of the country by the time both sides stop fighting... Who ever "wins", gets to lead a country where much of the infrastructure has been ruined, [url=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMbNxRCYAEws_V.jpg:large]where entire cities have been bombed out[/url], [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26864485]and where [b]9.5 million people[/b] -nearly half of the country's population, have fled.[/url][/QUOTE] This is the perfect ground work for an Islamic state!
[QUOTE=theblah12;44543634]I'm not sure there will be anything [i]left[/i] of the country by the time both sides stop fighting... Who ever "wins", gets to lead a country where much of the infrastructure has been ruined, [url=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMbNxRCYAEws_V.jpg:large]where entire cities have been bombed out[/url], [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26864485]and where [b]9.5 million people[/b] -nearly half of the country's population, have fled.[/url][/QUOTE] Less population and a high GDP through oil could be perfect for rebuilding his country
We have never been at war with Eurasia, we are at war with Eastasia.
[QUOTE=theblah12;44543634]I'm not sure there will be anything [i]left[/i] of the country by the time both sides stop fighting... Who ever "wins", gets to lead a country where much of the infrastructure has been ruined, [url=https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbMbNxRCYAEws_V.jpg:large]where entire cities have been bombed out[/url], [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26864485]and where [b]9.5 million people[/b] -nearly half of the country's population, have fled.[/url][/QUOTE] Only 2.5 million have actually left the country, while 9.5 million have had to flee their homes.
[QUOTE=The golden;44546458]Can't the same be said for every dictatorial regime?[/QUOTE] no?
Best case scenario, Islamists lose, but not before somebody assassinates Assad. He should have stepped down before a war started and he's still a major fulcrum point for the entire civil war.
[QUOTE=Sam Za Nemesis;44546404]All of this because of one man who won't yield his power[/QUOTE] No, one man's hunger for power didn't necessarily throw the entire region into chaos. Its stupid to try and boil down a real life conflict that way, its not a movie. [QUOTE=hypno-toad;44547745]Best case scenario, Islamists lose, but not before somebody assassinates Assad. He should have stepped down before a war started and he's still a major fulcrum point for the entire civil war.[/QUOTE] If that were to happen then whoever Assad's successor is would get into power, and I doubt he would be much better.
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