First Alaska woman charged with possessing child pornography gets no jail time
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[QUOTE]ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) A former Alaska woman who was sexually abused by her paternal grandfather and then, as an adult, downloaded and traded videos of child exploitation has avoided any jail.
Brittany Alexandra Robinson, 25 was the first woman in Alaska to be charged with possessing and distributing child pornography, according to Anchorage police.
A former day care worker at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson, Robinson received a prison-free sentence on Thursday. Superior Court Judge Kevin M. Saxby agreed with Robinson’s public defender that three years in prison, with three suspended, and five years of probation was appropriate.
“I do find good prospects for rehabilitation here based on the evaluation that was provided to me and the testimony I have heard, including Ms. Robinson’s short, but I’m convinced, heartfelt, expression of remorse,” Saxby said before imposing the sentence.
Prior to hearing her sentence, Robinson addressed the court, wiping tears from her eyes and taking deep breaths before speaking.
“I’m deeply sorry that this has happened. I understand the severity of the situation. And I recognize that I need to heal from the trauma that I experienced in life. I know that with the support of the people around me I can move forward in a positive direction to ensure that nothing like this happens again,” said Robinson, who now lives out of state and is the mother of a three-year-old child.
The case stems from an undercover investigation by Anchorage police in March 2013 in which detectives discovered Robinson was using file-sharing software to view graphic images and videos of children being sexually abused.
Adam Alexander, an attorney with the state Office of Special Prosecutions, told the court on Thursday that Robinson downloaded “a pretty significant" amount of “pretty terrible images of child exploitation.”[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/First-Alaska-woman-charged-with-possessing-child-pornography-gets-no-jail-time-397985081.html[/url]
[QUOTE=]wiping tears from her eyes and taking deep breaths before speaking.[/QUOTE]
Crocodile tears.
[QUOTE=]is the mother of a three-year-old child.[/QUOTE]
Good god.
Well, best of luck with the rehabilitation at least. Reads like she had a really fucked up childhood which can fuck you up later
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51243123]Well, best of luck with the rehabilitation at least. Reads like she had a really fucked up childhood which can fuck you up later[/QUOTE]
cool so all the other pedos who had fucked up childhoods are free to go too?
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;51243136]cool so all the other pedos who had fucked up childhoods are free to go too?[/QUOTE]
Depends. It's up to a just justice system to figure out whether they can be successfully rehabilitated and reintroduced to society.
In many ways America lacks that but hey, if they're correct about her, it's a right example.
Where's feminism when we need it now? Justice is so unfair it's ironic if anything.
If there's a good possibility of rehabilitation, wouldn't we want that before punishment? Don't we always complain about how the US prison system only makes harsher criminals?
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51243152]If there's a good possibility of rehabilitation, wouldn't we want that before punishment? Don't we always complain about how the US prison system only makes harsher criminals?[/QUOTE] For some reason only women can get rehabilitation though. Male criminals are rarely if ever considered for that.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243164]For some reason only women can get rehabilitation though. Male criminals are rarely if ever considered for that.[/QUOTE]
And (assuming your facts are straight?)
this isn't an either or situation.
A move to preferring rehabilitative rather than retributive approaches can help with that.
Though I don't doubt you, it's a well known fact that sympathetic dependents get lesser sentences/get off easier. One really strong argument against the death penalty for example is because people are much more willing to execute a black male rather than a white female.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51243152][B]If there's a good possibility of rehabilitation, wouldn't we want that before punishment?[/B] Don't we always complain about how the US prison system only makes harsher criminals?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, and there's this weird thing in the U.S. justice system where men tend to get far more severe punishments than women. [url=http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2016/10/19/m-victim-iowa-teacher-who-had-sex-student-says-dr-phil/92412664/]A female teacher in Iowa had sex with a student[/url] and only got fired. When the teacher is male [url=http://www.your4state.com/news/news/male-teacher-accused-of-having-sexual-relationship-with-student]they tend to get arrested[/url] and criminally prosecuted.
I want equal treatment under the law, but I also want the USCJ to be able to reintegrate people who have major problems or made dumb mistakes back into society. Its hard to address both issues at once.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51243174]And (assuming your facts are straight?)
this isn't an either or situation.
A move to preferring rehabilitative rather than retributive approaches can help with that.[/QUOTE]
Assuming I am right, has that ever been the case? We have women-only support clinics and what not and yet the only attempt at male one failed horribly. Straight up women pedophiles (see all the teacher fucked student news) get minimal sentences too. Yet men never get support and always get jailed up their ass. It is highly unlikely anything will change with this case, maybe only that women will now get even more reduced (or nonexistent) sentences for pedophilia.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243198]Assuming I am right, has that ever been the case? We have women-only support clinics and what not and yet the only attempt at male one failed horribly. Straight up women pedophiles (see all the teacher fucked student news) get minimal sentences too. Yet men never get support and always get jailed up their ass. It is highly unlikely anything will change with this case, maybe only that women will now get even more reduced (or nonexistent) sentences for pedophilia.[/QUOTE]
All true but I don't really think you can easily fix the unfair sentencing within the justice system, since it's still run by humans with gender roles & biases in their minds who have to make decisions (e.g. a jury.)
Although I disagree about it only benefiting women, because the "rehabilitative vs retributive" is a mindset we can adopt that affects everyone. Just look at many European countries such as Norway that try it like this, I'd be willing to bet there's still discrepancies between the sentencing each gender gets, but they don't needlessly throw peoples lives away with huge-ass sentencing near as often so it's still a positive for both, even if it's still not perfect.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51243215]All true but I don't really think you can easily fix the unfair sentencing within the justice system, since it's still run by humans with gender roles & biases in their minds who have to make decisions (e.g. a jury.)
Although I disagree about it only benefiting women, because the "rehabilitative vs retributive" is a mindset we can adopt that affects everyone. Just look at many European countries such as Norway that try it like this, I'd be willing to bet there's still discrepancies between the sentencing each gender gets, but they don't needlessly throw peoples lives away with huge-ass sentencing near as often so it's still a positive for both, even if it's still not perfect.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying workplace inequality is positive for both since men come home and support their stay at home wives. It sounds absolutely retarded and requires a lot of mental gymnastics to accept as okay. I'm sorry but what is happening here is NOT okay. It is blatant gender discrimination. Black people are constantly fighting about law inequality, but men are just taking it up the ass. Women get off pedo charges, they get child custody, their crime sentences overall are either much lower or nonexistent too.
Don't put this under "this helps everyone anyway" crap. It does not. This "better than nothing" mindset is validating discrimination and that's a very disturbing thought.
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
If justice inequality was the other way around you'd see tons of feminists protesting that shit in no time and it'd be changed fast. But if it's men it's suddenly ok since it still "helps everyone".
This isn't just "woops there's CP in my temp from a shady website"
This is flat out distributing and obtaining. She has a child of her own. Normally I'd deny that a judgement was based on what someone is but its hard to with this one when people get in trouble for their own dick pics from their underage days, or the one where the guy torrented a set of model plane instructions only to find it was a CP dead drop, or that kid that got fucked over by limewire downloading CP by mistake.
This is especially bad since it's apparently the first sentence for a woman in Alaska as this sets a precedent and a case to cite.
This isn't a step to better ways to treat criminals, this is lucky, unfair preferential treatment. Having a random case get off Scott free isn't going to help prisoner rehabilitation movements in anyway.
I hope the Feds do something about this one, aren't crimes like sex abuse of minors above state level?
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
She worked in a damn daycare ffs
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Shit I even heard in some places you can get tried for CP over drawings. Why does she get such padding?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243412]That's like saying workplace inequality is positive for both since men come home and support their stay at home wives. It sounds absolutely retarded and requires a lot of mental gymnastics to accept as okay. I'm sorry but what is happening here is NOT okay. It is blatant gender discrimination. Black people are constantly fighting about law inequality, but men are just taking it up the ass. Women get off pedo charges, they get child custody, their crime sentences overall are either much lower or nonexistent too.
Don't put this under "this helps everyone anyway" crap. It does not. This "better than nothing" mindset is validating discrimination and that's a very disturbing thought.
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
If justice inequality was the other way around you'd see tons of feminists protesting that shit in no time and it'd be changed fast. But if it's men it's suddenly ok since it still "helps everyone".[/QUOTE]
you're acting like the solution to "seperate but equal" was to give everyone the shitty treatment blacks were getting, not give everyone decent treatment
they're not giving everyone this treatment though
also are we really gonna compare CP distributors to people born a certain color? One's over a heinous crime and the other is over flat out pointless racism.
yeah comparing pedos to people of color is fucking retarded
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;51243571]they're not giving everyone this treatment though
also are we really gonna compare CP distributors to people born a certain color? One's over a heinous crime and the other is over flat out pointless racism.[/QUOTE]
Exactly my point. People who commit heinous crimes get off scott free(if you're a woman) but people born of certain color get treated like shit. Why?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243164]For some reason only women can get rehabilitation though. Male criminals are rarely if ever considered for that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that sucks, but what do you want? Deny everyone rehabilitation instead?
Complaining that woman are getting rehab when men aren't is going about this the wrong way. If anything, use this as an example to why men should get it too.
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243635]Exactly my point. People who commit heinous crimes get off scott free(if you're a woman) but people born of certain color get treated like shit. Why?[/QUOTE]
Because there is an unorganized, institutionalized, undertone of racism in the American justice system. That's why. Everyone knows it, asking why is redundant. You should be asking how to fix it instead.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243412]That's like saying workplace inequality is positive for both since men come home and support their stay at home wives. It sounds absolutely retarded and requires a lot of mental gymnastics to accept as okay. I'm sorry but what is happening here is NOT okay. It is blatant gender discrimination. Black people are constantly fighting about law inequality, but men are just taking it up the ass. Women get off pedo charges, they get child custody, their crime sentences overall are either much lower or nonexistent too.
Don't put this under "this helps everyone anyway" crap. It does not. This "better than nothing" mindset is validating discrimination and that's a very disturbing thought.
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
If justice inequality was the other way around you'd see tons of feminists protesting that shit in no time and it'd be changed fast. But if it's men it's suddenly ok since it still "helps everyone".[/QUOTE]
You missed my point, the same benefits will apply to both, even if one unfortunately gets the benefits more often than the other. You know one of the big ways black people are fighting law inequality? By making justice not as brutal, because getting rid of the racism in our society turns out to be really fucking hard. Same with sexism.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51243148]Where's feminism when we need it now? Justice is so unfair it's ironic if anything.[/QUOTE]
This IS what current feminism looks like, it is not feminism.
I'm lost. Can someone point to me the part where the judge gave a lighter sentence on the basis of her being a woman?
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51244851]I'm lost. Can someone point to me the part where the judge gave a lighter sentence on the basis of her being a woman?[/QUOTE]
What else? Her crimes are worse than what a lot of men had done but she still gets almost nothing. What else could be the reason?
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51244771]You missed my point, the same benefits will apply to both, even if one unfortunately gets the benefits more often than the other. You know one of the big ways black people are fighting law inequality? By making justice not as brutal, because getting rid of the racism in our society turns out to be really fucking hard. Same with sexism.[/QUOTE]
You really think same benefits will apply to both? Then how come female teachers have been getting these benefits for ages while male ones since never? When is that time coming when both genders get same benefits?
What the fuck is this shit.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51244860]What else? Her crimes are worse than what a lot of men had done but she still gets almost nothing. What else could be the reason?[/QUOTE]
[quote]“I do find good prospects for rehabilitation here based on the evaluation that was provided to me and the testimony I have heard, including Ms. Robinson’s short, but I’m convinced, heartfelt, expression of remorse,” Saxby said before imposing the sentence.[/quote]
[quote]Saxby said Robinson’s behavior was compulsive and wrong. But he said the evidence showed that the defendant’s acquisition of child pornography was not for her own gratification but rather “it was more exploratory.”
That’s how her public defender described the behavior too.
“Ms. Robinson wasn’t looking at these images for sexual gratification. It was more that she identified with the victims in the case,” Torres said.[/quote]
For the record, I think her sentence is light relative to her crimes. But they're light because of the above circumstances, not because she's a woman.
Like I really hope everyone here who's jumping to conclusions [B]DIDN'T[/B] read the article, because it's one thing to be unaware of the facts and it's another thing to know the facts and disregard them completely.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51244860]What else? Her crimes are worse than what a lot of men had done but she still gets almost nothing. What else could be the reason?
[editline]22nd October 2016[/editline]
You really think same benefits will apply to both? Then how come female teachers have been getting these benefits for ages while male ones since never? When is that time coming when both genders get same benefits?[/QUOTE]
I'm trying to find specific numbers on what women get for distribution of CP versus men in the USA and a more leniant country like norway/sweden/finland but it's really hard to find and I'll admit to being too lazy to dig deep for an internet debate. So I'll at least say this, on your second conviction the mandatory minimum is 10 years, so if they turn out to be wrong and she does it again at least you'll be happy.
edit: It's might be this hard to find because it's almost never women doing this, <5%.
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;51244912]For the record, I think her sentence is light relative to her crimes. But they're light because of the above circumstances, not because she's a woman.
Like I really hope everyone here who's jumping to conclusions [B]DIDN'T[/B] read the article, because it's one thing to be unaware of the facts and it's another thing to know the facts and disregard them completely.[/QUOTE]
These "reasons" are total bullcrap though. Crocodile tears and all that. Wouldn't fly if she wasn't a woman with puppy eyes in front of the judge. I mean come on dude, everything they say is so vague and generic you can't possibly think of that as a valid reason to get off free for supporting child abuse. Judge is not a smart person it seems.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51244940]These "reasons" are total bullcrap though. Crocodile tears and all that. Wouldn't fly if she wasn't a woman with puppy eyes in front of the judge. I mean come on dude, everything they say is so vague and generic you can't possibly think of that as a valid reason to get off free for supporting child abuse. Judge is not a smart person it seems.[/QUOTE]
The judge literally acknowledged that he felt it was likely crocodile tears
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51244947]The judge literally acknowledged that he felt it was likely crocodile tears[/QUOTE]And yet he let it slide? I don't understand. So he is aware it's all bull and yet she still convinced him?
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51244963]And yet he let it slide? I don't understand. So he is aware it's all bull and yet she still convinced him?[/QUOTE]
The other stuff made him think "okay we'll try rehabilitating this women before we effectively throw her away."
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