• Recording Guitar only results in recording a clean guitar
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I've got my guitar plugged into my M-Audio Fasttrack (And my headset plugged into that) And my M-Audio into my PC. I've got it set as my playback device. Now I've got Overloud TH1 running and changing the clean guitar sound into overdriven smooth sounds, like you would if you had an actual amp. I want to record THAT effect. But every time I go to record, the best I can get is recording my guitar's clean sound without the effects at all, as if I wasn't even using TH1. Can anyone help me out with this? What am I doing wrong that I can't record what I hear. I've tried Goldwave (Pfft) and Wavelab. Even the default windows 7 audio recorder. It all just records the clean guitar. I want to record What I HEAR. Including the effects TH1 Makes, and anything I play over Winamp. I have Winamp's audio output my M-Audio as well.
It records like that because it does record the guitar input, not the output resulted by TH1. [del]I'm not entirely sure what TH1 aside from it's capability to simulate guitar effects, can you provide a link or explain a little more about it?[/del] Before I explain any further I'd love to know what are you using to record your sound.
Not using anything to record my sound at the moment, because I can't record anything other than boring lame clean guitar, instead of the effects like distortion, reverb, vibrato, etc etc, that TH1 applies to the sound, instead of recording that, it only records My guitar and nothing else. Guitar Rig has a tapedeck recorder but the sound quality of GR sucks compared to TH1 Basically, everything records my Line In instead of my Line Out, but I can't do anything but select my M Audio as a device in these programs for recording, not the Line Out
I was asking what were you using to record your guitar when you found out it only gets your original clean tone. AFAIK, just like GR, TH1 is possible to run both as a standalone program and as a VST plugin, so you can basically load it into any program capable of it, record it there, and then the track should be compiled with the effects applied by TH1. I also disagree that GR's quality sucks but that's just off-topic.
Although I don't recommend this unless you have a good sound card, you could try to use stereo mix to record what you hear.
[QUOTE=STeel;30257921]I was asking what were you using to record your guitar when you found out it only gets your original clean tone.[/QUOTE] I tried Default Windows Sound Recorder, Goldwave, Audacity, and Wavelab, all recorded just clean input instead of fancy output [editline]5th June 2011[/editline] And Windows 7 Doesn't have Stereo Mix I don't think. Ah yes it does. I enabled it and told it to listen to the M Audio, but nothing records when setting the stereo mix as the recording device
[QUOTE=TheTalon;30257948]I tried Default Windows Sound Recorder, Goldwave, Audacity, and Wavelab, all recorded just clean input instead of fancy output [editline]5th June 2011[/editline] And Windows 7 Doesn't have Stereo Mix I don't think[/QUOTE] The plug might have a specific setting for using it with a PC, my line 6 POD does and so do some headphones.
I don't know much about Goldwave and Wavelab, but I know for a fact that if you recorded it in [url=http://www.reaper.fm/download.php]Reaper[/url], loaded TH1 as a plugin in it, and compiled it, the result would be the one you hear with the effects. Again, this logic would work in any audio software capable of loading VSTs.
[QUOTE=STeel;30257977]I don't know much about Goldwave and Wavelab, but I know for a fact that if you recorded it in [url=http://www.reaper.fm/download.php]Reaper[/url], loaded TH1 as a plugin in it, and compiled it, the result would be the one you hear with the effects. Again, this logic would work in any audio software capable of loading VSTs.[/QUOTE] I got it working, now I have to mess with the latency issue... 54ms is horrible Got it. Appreciate the help. Reaper seems to have done the trick allowing me to import and use TH1 through it
Yeah 54ms isn't pretty. My ASIO driver can be configured though, between latency and stability, if that doesn't work for you, you can record the track listening to the direct input, and then editing it.
I got it down to 5Ms which is perfect really, Now for the last step... Figuring out how to Play and record a track, and my guitar at the same time on one track, New programs are always confusing
Load the original track in one slot, record the guitar on another slot, compile them when you're happy with the result?
There's no way to have a track record both the guitar and a backing track at the same time?
There probably is, but I never gave a thought to it because it isn't the best way to do it. If you had both tracks 'welded' together at that stage, there's no way you could come in and insert some fixes to the track if you wanted to, for example balancing the volume of the two tracks, changing the effects, etc...
Rgr, Thanks for the help. I'll do it the ol' fashioned Copy/Mix way I suppose [editline]5th June 2011[/editline] Doh, recording the output instead of the input, Okay now I'm good to go
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