Arkansas school trains faculty to conceal carry - Polidicks

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/80h2Ch1.png[/IMG] [quote]Preparing for such scenarios has become common for police after a school shooting in Connecticut in December left 20 children and six teachers dead. But Dougan is no policeman. He's the assistant principal of this school in Arkansas, and when classes resume in August, he will walk the halls with a 9mm handgun. Dougan is among more than 20 teachers, administrators and other school employees in this town who will carry concealed weapons throughout the school day, making use of a little-known Arkansas law that allows licensed, armed security guards on campus. After undergoing 53 hours of training, Dougan and teachers at the school will be considered guards.[/quote][URL="http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23763727/arkansas-town-train-school-officials-carry-concealed-guns"] Please read the full article here: Source[/URL] They're not allowing any teacher to conceal carry, they're putting them through training at a professional training facility first.

Shouldn't they use .22s instead?

no one likes the idea of everyone having weapons, but it's even worse to take them away from responsible citizens and let criminals run around with them. this is a step in the right direction.

[QUOTE=cdr248;41930518]Shouldn't they use .22s instead?[/QUOTE] Psh. Use 45's. I don't mean .45's. 45. That'll teach them.

[quote]After undergoing 53 hours of training[/quote] Holy shatmackerel, that's a long time

[QUOTE=cdr248;41930518]Shouldn't they use .22s instead?[/QUOTE] Why? :v:

Jesus that sign is scary, as if there's a constant patrol of dirty terrorists roaming the grounds.

[QUOTE=cdr248;41930518]Shouldn't they use .22s instead?[/QUOTE] any particular reason why? If you're worried about over penetration, theres a good chance they're using hollowpoints.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;41930552]Why? :v:[/QUOTE] Because its a school and not Rio?

I don't see a problem with this. If they're proper gun owners and have earned their CC, I think nothing negative can come out of it unless someone majorly fucks up.

[QUOTE=Elecbullet;41930550]Holy shatmackerel, that's a long time[/QUOTE] All for the better will lessen the chance of someone shooting themselves in the foot

[QUOTE=Simples;41930556]Jesus that sign is scary, as if there's a constant patrol of dirty terrorists roaming the grounds.[/QUOTE] They're not roaming the halls with AR-15's, just some of the teachers have a handgun concealed in their waistband.

These guys are going beyond basic CCW training, it seems like all these teachers are going for armed security guard training, based off the way they seem to word it, which is more extensive.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;41930662]These guys are going beyond basic CCW training, it seems like all these teachers are going for armed security guard training, based off the way they seem to word it, which is more extensive.[/QUOTE] Which is even better.

waiting for the the "having another person with a gun would result in more deaths in a school shooting" post as if the teacher and shooter would team up and gun down as many kids as possible.

[QUOTE=cdr248;41930518]Shouldn't they use .22s instead?[/QUOTE] .22s don't have great stopping power. I think this is a great idea. Not only are they arming staff, they're teaching them how to use weapons efficiently and responsibly. If you can trust a teacher to watch your kids, there's no reason not to trust them with a firearm.

[QUOTE=gamefreek76;41931104].22s don't have great stopping power. I think this is a great idea. Not only are they arming staff, they're teaching them how to use weapons efficiently and responsibly. If you can trust a teacher to watch your kids, there's no reason not to trust them with a firearm.[/QUOTE] A .22 is still deadly at handgun range. Sort of like every other bullet.

This is a good thing. Arming teachers and preparing them to open fire while in class will be an effective and long-lasting remedy to the epidemic of school shootings, which are crimes perpetrated by individuals who care deeply about their own chances of survival. Maybe, when faced with the prospect of an armed home economics teacher they'll turn their mental illness towards something more productive, like chess club.

That'd be cool if they had body protection, it'd be nice if they'd actually make a difference.

I dunno if a teacher could really bring themselves to pull a gun on one of their students, if they knew him/her well enough. That is, in fact, if the shooter ends up even being a student.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;41931641]This is a good thing. Arming teachers and preparing them to open fire while in class will be an effective and long-lasting remedy to the epidemic of school shootings, which are crimes perpetrated by individuals who care deeply about their own chances of survival. Maybe, when faced with the prospect of an armed home economics teacher they'll turn their mental illness towards something more productive, like chess club.[/QUOTE] school shooters are going to kill themselves anyways so lets just let them do what they want until they off themselves.

Now teachers-- and by extension, students-- are just a little less helpless.

Isn't the main issue with faculty carrying firearms at school the possibility of students getting a hold of the guns or stealing them? Also if the school still isn't allowed to carry firearms on the job, isn't this a misguided of resources? Most of the state according to the article owns guns already so one would assume the teachers know how to fire guns. [del]Personally I think an open-hand martial arts class would be more helpful, seeing as any teacher would be tackling or trying to knock the gun out of a gunman's hands [I][B]if [/B][/I]they decided they would go on the offensive.[/del] Actually read the article.

[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;41931641]This is a good thing. Arming teachers and preparing them to open fire while in class will be an effective and long-lasting remedy to the epidemic of school shootings, which are crimes perpetrated by individuals who care deeply about their own chances of survival. Maybe, when faced with the prospect of an armed home economics teacher they'll turn their mental illness towards something more productive, like chess club.[/QUOTE] yes I agree completely. Best to let the school shooter kill you and be done with it. There is no need to defend yourself or children, huddle in the corner and pray, Lord jesus will protect, god bless. [quote]Personally I think an open-hand martial arts class would be more helpful, seeing as any teacher would be tackling or trying to knock the gun out of a gunman's hands [I][B]if [/B][/I]they decided they would go on the offensive.[/QUOTE] I routinely disarm multiple assailants with my karate chop moves I learned from jackie chan, approaching the assailant is the hard part as you have to initiate several tactical bullet dodging procedures to get within range

[t]http://i.imgur.com/80h2Ch1.png[/t] Isn't this supposed to be "Staff [I]are[/I] armed"?

My school recently made a rule that banned backpacks anywhere but locker bays because we might all be carrying concealed weapons. I have to lug around a massive Anatomy book, a math book, three binders, four note books, and two folders because my locker bay is no where near any of my classes and I'm late whenever I try to dump some stuff off at my locker. No one told them that the school shooters all walked in through the front door or a window and started shooting, not lugging around AKs in their backpacks. Maybe they should do something about the secretaries that don't look at the cameras when they buzz people into the building.

It's a sad day for society when it's considered more prudent to arm schoolteachers than it is bring about any sort of legislation to curb the creation of school shooters.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;41932366][t]http://i.imgur.com/80h2Ch1.png[/t] Isn't this supposed to be "Staff [I]are[/I] armed"?[/QUOTE] [del]American[/del] Arkansas education

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;41932366][t]http://i.imgur.com/80h2Ch1.png[/t] Isn't this supposed to be "Staff [I]are[/I] armed"?[/QUOTE] One staff. Two staffs. A staff is a set of people. A single set. So, staff is not plural. Staff could be replaced with group, and it'd still be correct.

[QUOTE=polarbear.;41930535]no one likes the idea of everyone having weapons, but it's even worse to take them away from responsible citizens and let criminals run around with them. this is a step in the right direction.[/QUOTE] You think having to arm teachers in schools in a first world country for fear of a mad man massacre is a step in the right direction? Really? I thought it was 3rd world countries where children had to walk into schools with the shadow of armed guards near them.