• Trump personally dictated misleading statement on son's Russia meeting; may put him at legal risk
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[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html[/url] [quote]On the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit in Germany last month, President Trump’s advisers discussed how to respond to a new revelation that Trump’s oldest son had met with a Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign — a disclosure the advisers knew carried political and potentially legal peril. The strategy, the advisers agreed, should be for Donald Trump Jr. to release a statement to get ahead of the story. They wanted to be truthful, so their account couldn’t be repudiated later if the full details emerged. But within hours, at the president’s direction, the plan changed. Flying home from Germany on July 8 aboard Air Force One, Trump personally dictated a statement in which Trump Jr. said he and the Russian lawyer had “primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children” when they met in June 2016, according to multiple people with knowledge of the deliberations. The statement, issued to the New York Times as it prepared a story, emphasized that the subject of the meeting was “not a campaign issue at the time.”[/quote]
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"Whole of the Planet baffled by one man's ability to fuck up every time." No but seriously I just how. [I]How.[/I] Has this man not accidentally burned the White House down at this point. I wouldn't trust him with a fecking fork.
Any takers still wanna say he didn't know about the meeting?
Coincidentally, Info Wars made a post earlier today stating that Trump is going to level sanctions against NK
Trump might as well have an heart tattoo with putin's name on it at this point.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52527183]"Whole of the Planet baffled by one man's ability to fuck up every time." No but seriously I just how. [I]How.[/I] Has this man not accidentally burned the White House down at this point. I wouldn't trust him with a fecking fork.[/QUOTE] he's getting pretty close to burning it down with thermonuclear fire, what with trying to bully the chinese president on twitter (I don't understand this logic) and his inevitable explosion at putin.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52527283]he's getting pretty close to burning it down with thermonuclear fire, what with trying to bully the chinese president on twitter (I don't understand this logic) and his inevitable explosion at putin.[/QUOTE] Nuclear warfare is a bit much. I defineitly see him escalating a war tho.
[QUOTE]may put him at legal risk[/QUOTE] Or may not,and most likely not because the US isn't at war with Russia so I don't see any reason to complain here.I bet he also had meetings with China and Arabs but since they have more money in your economy and media and they also financing part of Hollywood films you will never see so much negative information about them as you have about Russia.I'm not saying that Russians are saints,but let's compare how many news you have about possible meddling in your elections compared to secret prisons in China for dissidents and how easy you can dissapear in China if local government want to and no one will help because they invested a lot of $$$ in foreign economies,EU and US fear to lose their factories there and access on chinese market,they helping NK much more than our country,Tibet is even worse than Crimea and don't forget about one-party system,1989 massacre in their capital and all of these are facts .
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527326]Or may not,and most likely not because the US isn't at war with Russia so I don't see any reason to complain here.I bet he also had meetings with China and Arabs but since they have more money in your economy and media and they also financing part of Hollywood films you will never see so much negative information about them as you have about Russia.I'm not saying that Russians are saints,but let's compare how many news you have about possible meddling in your elections compared to secret prisons in China for dissidents and how easy you can dissapear in China if local government want to and no one will help because they invested a lot of $$$ in foreign economies,EU and US fear to lose their factories there and access on chinese market,they helping NK much more than our country,Tibet is even worse than Crimea and don't forget about one-party system,1989 massacre in their capital and all of these are facts .[/QUOTE] You don't collude with a foreign power to influence an election. You don't say this is nothing, then lie at every fucking turn to deflect.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527326]Or may not,and most likely not because the US isn't at war with Russia so I don't see any reason to complain here.I bet he also had meetings with China and Arabs but since they have more money in your economy and media and they also financing part of Hollywood films you will never see so much negative information about them as you have about Russia.I'm not saying that Russians are saints,but let's compare how many news you have about possible meddling in your elections compared to secret prisons in China for dissidents and how easy you can dissapear in China if local government want to and no one will help because they invested a lot of $$$ in foreign economies,EU and US fear to lose their factories there and access on chinese market,they helping NK much more than our country,Tibet is even worse than Crimea and don't forget about one-party system,1989 massacre in their capital and all of these are facts .[/QUOTE] We hear about shady shit all the time from China in western news. Possibly harvesting organs from prisoners illegally, jailing dissidents, people going missing, ect. They get posted here in fact. The problem is we have facts that there is Russian interference in our election, and even though our President and so many of his supporters want to deny it, we've found out they're dealing with Russian agents more than they want to let on. They are DESPERATE to shut this stuff down which only makes them look guilty. Pro tip we also don't like China or Arabian governments, you can find an article posted here a few weeks ago where Trump let through an arms deal worth like 600million to the UAE. People were not happy. Also paid russian shills for their government have also been confirmed, people who defend Russia endlessly and deflect all negativity elsewhere to try and make it look like theres a western hypocrisy to hate exclusively on Russia. And you joined this month with 20 posts. It could be a coincidence but who am I to tell? And before you say it yes I know every government does this.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527326]Or may not,and most likely not because the US isn't at war with Russia so I don't see any reason to complain here.I bet he also had meetings with China and Arabs but since they have more money in your economy and media and they also financing part of Hollywood films you will never see so much negative information about them as you have about Russia.I'm not saying that Russians are saints,but let's compare how many news you have about possible meddling in your elections compared to secret prisons in China for dissidents and how easy you can dissapear in China if local government want to and no one will help because they invested a lot of $$$ in foreign economies,EU and US fear to lose their factories there and access on chinese market,they helping NK much more than our country,Tibet is even worse than Crimea and don't forget about one-party system,1989 massacre in their capital and all of these are facts .[/QUOTE] Those examples are also no one else's business. Election meddling is absolutely our business. So much damn whataboutism. This is probably futile, seeing the flagdog and post history.
This was the G20 summit where Trump snuck away to have a talk with Putin with no witnesses except Putin's translator, yes? And then, on the flight home, Trump dictates a precise policy line on how Trump Jr. is going to spin his meeting with Russians (when the email chain which Don Jr. personally released [I]clearly[/I] states otherwise)? What [B]massive[/B] coincidences.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52527379]This was the G20 summit where Trump snuck away to have a talk with Putin with no witnesses except Putin's translator, yes? And then, on the flight home, Trump dictates a precise policy line on how Trump Jr. is going to spin his meeting with Russians (when the email chain which Don Jr. personally released [I]clearly[/I] states otherwise)? What [B]massive[/B] coincidences.[/QUOTE] Gotta listen to what papa Putin says :)
[QUOTE]And you joined this month with 20 posts. It could be a coincidence but who am I to tell? And before you say it yes I know every government does this.[/QUOTE] I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.I'm not a russian troll since I live in Kaliningrad region and dislike Putin but not because of Ukraine but for diffirent reasons mainly because he stayed in power for 20 years already.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527384]I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.I'm not a russian troll since I live in Kaliningrad region and dislike Putin but not because of Ukraine but for diffirent reasons mainly because he stayed in power for 20 years already.[/QUOTE] Perhaps there's hundreds upon thousands of threads and posts that are negative about Trump because he's fucking shit?
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527384]I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.I'm not a russian troll since I live in Kaliningrad region and dislike Putin but not because of Ukraine but for diffirent reasons mainly because he stayed in power for 20 years already.[/QUOTE] The fact is that Trump is blatantly trying to cover up Russian interference in America's elections -- which is a reason to go to war, by the way, although I don't think Russians need to fear a military conflict with America. The President of the United States is trying to cover up the fact that he won because Putin helped him win. This is an act of treason and is punishable by imprisonment or execution. It's not that we "don't like Trump", it's because he's [B]breaking the law and destroying democracy[/B], and that may be fine in Russia but that shit is not acceptable in the West. You can talk about how America's been doing it to other nations for so long that they "deserve" to have it happen to them, ok that's fine, but you can't be surprised when Americans [I]get mad about it[/I] when it happens.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527384]I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.I'm not a russian troll since I live in Kaliningrad region and dislike Putin but not because of Ukraine but for diffirent reasons mainly because he stayed in power for 20 years already.[/QUOTE] I AM GROW TIRED OF TRUMP = BAD POST SO I MAKE WAY TO SEE TRUMP = GOOD INSTEAD YES
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527384]I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.[/QUOTE] Have you ever wondered why there's such a disproportionate amount of hate for Trump compared to past US presidents? You're Russian so you're used to shitty corrupt governments. The US is by no means perfect but Trump is by far one of the most corrupt and incompetent morons to have ever held office here. He has earned basically every bit of hatred that gets thrown his way. Cooperating with a foreign state to sway our elections one way or the other is wrong. It was wrong when the US and Russia did it to other nations in the past, it's wrong now. And it should stop happening because it only makes things worse for basically everyone.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527384]I read this forum since 2015 and just tired of 10000000 threads about bad Trump with 10000 comments about bad Trump in every of them so I decided to post here my opinion which is diffirent as you can see.I'm not a russian troll since I live in Kaliningrad region and dislike Putin but not because of Ukraine but for diffirent reasons mainly because he stayed in power for 20 years already.[/QUOTE] I'll take your word for it but most people do not like Trump. His approval rating is insanely low, although he and his supporters would tell you it's fake. Many people in other countries also do not like Trump, because he insults them on the regular and his supporters are rabid. I don't know many people who are satisfied with the world at large these days.
Just to make it clear how I see this situation.Most media dislike Trump and exaggerating his mistakes and your elite also dislike Trump because he is not one of them,DNC servers hacked by Russia and I believe in meddling in elections but only in form of secret talks and money not some shit like Putin voted for Trump and this is why he is the president of the US now,because he had like 48% votes.Yes his approval rating is shit but all media are working against him so it's really hard to win a fight against them as you can see on Sanders example.Trump will stay in power and no one will try to impeach him in next 4 years.Also I dislike "strong mens", one-party systems and echo chambers which are so common on russian political forums.I'm not a paid troll and I just like to debate and sometimes I disagree with my own posts but write them just for the sake of debate since we have democracy and it's not good to have 10000 people with the same opinion.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527467]Also I dislike "strong mens", one-party systems[/QUOTE] [media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891259245106278400[/media] Here we see President Trump trying to bully the Senate majority leader, a fellow Republican, into eliminating the filibuster and converting the US Senate into a house of [I]one-party rule[/I]. What do you have to say about this?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52527480][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891259245106278400[/media] Here we see President Trump trying to bully the Senate majority leader, a fellow Republican, into eliminating the filibuster and converting the US Senate into a house of [I]one-party rule[/I]. What do you have to say about this?[/QUOTE] Republicans would 100% be shooting themselves in the foot if they did this. Republican rule won't last forever.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527467]Just to make it clear how I see this situation.Most media dislike Trump and exaggerating his mistakes and your elite also dislike Trump because he is not one of them,DNC servers hacked by Russia and I believe in meddling in elections but only in form of secret talks and money not some shit like Putin voted for Trump and this is why he is the president of the US now,because he had like 48% votes.Yes his approval rating is shit but all media are working against him so it's really hard to win a fight against them as you can see on Sanders example.Trump will stay in power and no one will try to impeach him in next 4 years.Also I dislike "strong mens", one-party systems and echo chambers which are so common on russian political forums.I'm not a paid troll and I just like to debate and sometimes I disagree with my own posts but write them just for the sake of debate since we have democracy and it's not good to have 10000 people with the same opinion.[/QUOTE] This is extremely convincing. You've proven to me with this logic that Trump, despite publicly admiring dictators and constantly trying to do authoritarian shit, is [I]totally[/I] just being unfairly judged by the media. You know. Despite the fact anybody with an internet connection can easily go and view his very active Twitter account for themselves.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52527480][media]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/891259245106278400[/media] Here we see President Trump trying to bully the Senate majority leader, a fellow Republican, into eliminating the filibuster and converting the US Senate into a house of [I]one-party rule[/I]. What do you have to say about this?[/QUOTE] I'm all for debates and I hate monolithic parties so it's nice to have tensions among republicans and democrats it could create more parties and more debates which is nice for people living there.I think some powerful people with a lot of $$$ and influence are against Trump for now.Just watch House of Cards.
So... you... do not support Trump's statement? Or you do? I can't tell because you answered indirectly and then went on to talk about other things.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52527552]So... you... do not support Trump's statement? Or you do? I can't tell because you answered indirectly and then went on to talk about other things.[/QUOTE] Wait... Russian flagdog, inane rambling, and indirect answers? ...is that Trump?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;52527520]Republicans would 100% be shooting themselves in the foot if they did this. Republican rule won't last forever.[/QUOTE] ....unless they followed it up with a shitton of gerrymandering bullshit, which they already like to do as it is.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52527552]So... you... do not support Trump's statement? Or you do? I can't tell because you answered indirectly and then went on to talk about other things.[/QUOTE] I don't support him on this statement and I will not defend him at all cost.I believe he has some enemies among the most influential people of the world which also have media and senate to thrash him,especially those who earn billions on human trade,slave labor and illegal workers.
[QUOTE=AmberFox;52527578]I don't support him on this statement and I will not defend him at all cost.I believe he has some enemies among the most influential people of the world which also have media and senate to thrash him,especially those who earn billions on human trade,slave labor and illegal workers.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree that there are people with the capability and motive to unfairly trash Donald Trump. I disagree with the idea that anything that has been reported so far has been unfair. You're talking about a general principle which doesn't apply to these very specific instances of him getting caught doing bad things. Even if there was a coordinated smear campaign against him motivated by pure liberal hate, he is still doing everything that he's accused of doing, so it doesn't make a difference. You do something bad, you get judged for it, stop crying.
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