Soldier in Leaks Case Was Jailed Naked, Lawyer Says
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[quote] WASHINGTON — A lawyer for Pfc. Bradley Manning, the Army intelligence analyst accused of leaking secret government files to WikiLeaks, has complained that his client was stripped and left naked in his cell for seven hours on Wednesday. The conditions of Private Manning’s confinement at the Marine brig in Quantico, Va., have drawn criticism in recent months from supporters and his lawyer, David E. Coombs.
The soldier’s clothing was returned to him Thursday morning, after he was required to stand naked outside his cell during an inspection, Mr. Coombs said in a posting on his Web site.
“This type of degrading treatment is inexcusable and without justification,” Mr. Coombs wrote. “It is an embarrassment to our military justice system and should not be tolerated. Pfc. Manning has been told that the same thing will happen to him again tonight. No other detainee at the brig is forced to endure this type of isolation and humiliation.”
First Lt. Brian Villiard, a Marine spokesman, said a brig duty supervisor had ordered Private Manning’s clothing taken from him. He said that the step was “not punitive” and that it was in accordance with brig rules, but he said that he was not allowed to say more.
“It would be inappropriate for me to explain it,” Lieutenant Villiard said. “I can confirm that it did happen, but I can’t explain it to you without violating the detainee’s privacy.”
Private Manning is being held as a maximum security detainee under a special set of restrictions intended to prevent self-injury, even though supporters say there is no evidence that he is suicidal.
During an appearance on MSNBC earlier on Thursday, Geoffrey Morrell, the Pentagon press secretary, attributed the general conditions of Private Manning’s confinement to “the seriousness of the charges he’s facing, the potential length of sentence, the national security implications” and to protect him from potential harm.
Also, earlier on Thursday, one of Private Manning’s friends, David House, said in a conference call with reporters that he had visited the soldier the previous weekend and that his mental condition was severely deteriorating as a result of being confined to his cell 23 hours a day, with one hour to exercise in an empty room, and largely isolated from human contact.
But Mr. House said that Private Manning did not seem suicidal and contended that he was being pressured to cooperate.
Investigators have been seeking evidence that could implicate Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder, as a conspirator in the leaking of the military and diplomatic documents and videos.
Mr. House spoke on the conference call with Daniel Ellsberg, who compared the leaking of documents to WikiLeaks to his own leaking of the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam War. On Wednesday, the Army announced 22 additional charges against Private Manning, including “aiding the enemy.”
The charge sheet did not explain who “the enemy” was, leading some to speculate that it was a reference to WikiLeaks. On Thursday, however, the military said that it instead referred to any hostile forces that could benefit from learning about classified military tactics and procedures. [/quote]
Source:[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/us/04manning.html[/url]
Also,
[quote]“I can confirm that it did happen, but I can’t explain it to you without violating the detainee’s privacy.”[/quote]
Like stripping him naked wasn't a violation of his privacy rights.
I wish I was his prison mate
[QUOTE=ROFLBURGER;28413206]I wish I was his prison mate[/QUOTE]
so you could be locked in a room with a naked guy?
despicable how they can do that to their own countryman.
[quote] If used in conjunction with intelligence interrogations,
prohibited actions include, but are not limited to—
• [b]Forcing the detainee to be naked[/b], perform sexual acts, or pose in a
sexual manner.
• Placing hoods or sacks over the head of a detainee; using duct tape
over the eyes.
• Applying beatings, electric shock, burns, or other forms of physical
pain.
• “Waterboarding.”
• Using military working dogs.
• Inducing hypothermia or heat injury.
• Conducting mock executions.
• Depriving the detainee of necessary food, water, or medical care[/quote]
[url]http://www.army.mil/institution/armypublicaffairs/pdf/fm2-22-3.pdf[/url]
Page 5-21, Section 5-75.
This is some really bad stuff.
[QUOTE=Penguiin;28413230]so you could be locked in a room with a naked guy?[/QUOTE]
No, so I could keep him company and give him warm clothes
NO OF COURSE I WANT TO BE LOCKED IN A ROOM WITH A NAKED DUDE
-snip-
Nevermind...
this is pretty disgraceful conduct
[QUOTE=butters757;28413267][url]http://www.army.mil/institution/armypublicaffairs/pdf/fm2-22-3.pdf[/url]
Page 5-21, Section 5-75.[/QUOTE]
I suppose their explanation is that they aren't trying to interrogate him.
Despicable none the less.
Is it impossible for my country to actually uphold its values? At least let me be proud to be an American....
[QUOTE=Saxon;28413348]Is it impossible for my country to actually uphold its values? At least let me be proud to be an American....[/QUOTE]
Not really much left to be proud of.
He must have a pretty ignorant lawyer if he didn't know that this is a mandatory step under brig regulations for maximum custody detainees. He wasn't made to stand or anything outside of his cell for those seven hours, or pose for photographs or anything heinous; they removed his clothes (as they remove everyone's clothes), to ensure there's been no security breach, briefly inspected him, and let him go back into his cell. Then, after they'd finished checking his clothes, along with all the other inmates' clothing, they gave them back to him and let him go about his business. In the brig, there's really few places other than one's clothes for one to hide items that have been smuggled in and are classified as contraband (you get a bed, toilet, sink, and reading materials; that's all your cell is furnished with; bodily orifices are the only other place, hence why he was briefly inspected naked). They let him stay in his cell, again, after they were finished.
As he's being held on a Prevention of Injury assignment under maximum custody, he must also be checked by the guards every five minutes and is allowed only to sleep at night in his boxers (sunset to sunrise, 5 AM); he must additionally remain visible to the guards at all times. This is because he is considered to be a threat to national security and possible escapee (or suicide case- which he's also been on suicide watch, for the record). [url]http://www.quantico.usmc.mil/activities/display.aspx?PID=588&Section=SECBN[/url] John Hinckley, who was also held at Quantico, was made to go through the same kind of routine and inspections, too.
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Funnily enough, his own lawyer said just back in January that nobody in the guards had at any time tried to bully, embarrass, or harass PFC. Manning at Quantico and that they'd acted professionally. [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/21/wikileaks-bradley-manning-lawyer-unfairly[/url] Has there been a sudden change of heart?
[QUOTE=Siminov;28413324]I have no sympathy for him, but he still has rights...[/QUOTE]
you have no sympathy for a person being practically tortured?
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[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;28414548]He must have a pretty ignorant lawyer if he didn't know that this is a mandatory step under brig regulations for maximum custody detainees. He wasn't made to stand or anything outside of his cell for those seven hours, or pose for photographs or anything heinous; they removed his clothes (as they remove everyone's clothes), to ensure there's been no security breach, briefly inspected him, and let him go back into his cell. Then, after they'd finished checking his clothes, along with all the other inmates' clothing, they gave them back to him and let him go about his business. In the brig, there's really few places other than one's clothes for one to hide items that have been smuggled in and are classified as contraband (you get a bed, toilet, sink, and reading materials; that's all your cell is furnished with; bodily orifices are the only other place, hence why he was briefly inspected naked). They let him stay in his cell, again, after they were finished.
As he's being held on a Prevention of Injury assignment under maximum custody, he must also be checked by the guards every five minutes and is allowed only to sleep at night in his boxers (sunset to sunrise, 5 AM); he must additionally remain visible to the guards at all times. This is because he is considered to be a threat to national security and possible escapee (or suicide case- which he's also been on suicide watch, for the record). [url]http://www.quantico.usmc.mil/activities/display.aspx?PID=588&Section=SECBN[/url] John Hinckley, who was also held at Quantico, was made to go through the same kind of routine and inspections, too.
[editline]4th March 2011[/editline]
Funnily enough, his own lawyer said just back in January that nobody in the guards had at any time tried to bully, embarrass, or harass PFC. Manning at Quantico and that they'd acted professionally. [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/21/wikileaks-bradley-manning-lawyer-unfairly[/url] Has there been a sudden change of heart?[/QUOTE]
Are you fucking kidding me? Did you NOT read the source posted above on types of activities the army is NOT allowed to do?
Just because John Hinckley went through it, doesn't justify it in anyway.
And not only that, the lawyer never denied any abuse was being administered to Manning.
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And for the record, he wasn't 'briefly' inspected naked.
How fucking long does it take to inspect someone naked? I'd say, if you realllllllly stretched it, 15 minutes at most.
Not [B][I]seven[/I][/B] fucking hours.
And how do you explain the time in solitary confinement with both A: Not actually being charged or convicted with anything B: not deserving it and C: several WEEKS past the allowed time to keep someone inside a cell.
Assange will soon keep him company, they can make babies.
And thank you, lunchboxofdoom, for fucking attempting to justify this heinous treatment against a person. You and every other military apologist are all the fucking same.
That poor guy, how could do they do such a thing.
I'm going to sleep naked tonight in silent protest
why isn't he allowed to commit suicide?
that's just fucking cruel
lol america
It's like the US is making an example of how NOT to treat someone you have a grudge against:
-jailed without a proper trial
-denied even the most basic necessities of life(you know, stuff like a pillow)
-being denied the contact to ANYONE
-being denied to speak to himself
-being denied to do sport
GG, USA, gg
bradley manning is a fucking hero and they're going to fucking kill him for it
way to go US government, keep being assholes
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bradley manning is a fucking hero and they're going to fucking kill him for it
way to go US government, keep being assholes
[quote]“It would be inappropriate for me to explain it,” Lieutenant Villiard said. “I can confirm that it did happen, but I can’t explain it to you without violating the detainee’s privacy.”[/quote]
Sounds like they're implying he pissed himself?
The US government has always been hypocrite, but this is terrible. I really hope he has the chance to being set free.
[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;28414548]He must have a pretty ignorant lawyer if he didn't know that this is a mandatory step under brig regulations for maximum custody detainees. He wasn't made to stand or anything outside of his cell for those seven hours, or pose for photographs or anything heinous; they removed his clothes (as they remove everyone's clothes), to ensure there's been no security breach, briefly inspected him, and let him go back into his cell. Then, after they'd finished checking his clothes, along with all the other inmates' clothing, they gave them back to him and let him go about his business. In the brig, there's really few places other than one's clothes for one to hide items that have been smuggled in and are classified as contraband (you get a bed, toilet, sink, and reading materials; that's all your cell is furnished with; bodily orifices are the only other place, hence why he was briefly inspected naked). They let him stay in his cell, again, after they were finished.
As he's being held on a Prevention of Injury assignment under maximum custody, he must also be checked by the guards every five minutes and is allowed only to sleep at night in his boxers (sunset to sunrise, 5 AM); he must additionally remain visible to the guards at all times. This is because he is considered to be a threat to national security and possible escapee (or suicide case- which he's also been on suicide watch, for the record). [url]http://www.quantico.usmc.mil/activities/display.aspx?PID=588&Section=SECBN[/url] John Hinckley, who was also held at Quantico, was made to go through the same kind of routine and inspections, too.
[editline]4th March 2011[/editline]
Funnily enough, his own lawyer said just back in January that nobody in the guards had at any time tried to bully, embarrass, or harass PFC. Manning at Quantico and that they'd acted professionally. [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/21/wikileaks-bradley-manning-lawyer-unfairly[/url] Has there been a sudden change of heart?[/QUOTE]
Uhh actually maximum custody inmates do not have to be naked in a cell. The only time we usually do this is when they're suicidal so we remove everything out of the cell including their clothing and after that give them a shitty smock.
I don't know how the military runs their shit, but last time I checked civil rights of a prisoner/inmate and laws still fucking apply. And if he is a pretrial detainee/inmate he has more rights then someone convicted.
[QUOTE=Killuah;28416662]It's like the US is making an example of how NOT to treat someone you have a grudge against:
-jailed without a proper trial
-denied even the most basic necessities of life(you know, stuff like a pillow)
-being denied the contact to ANYONE
-being denied to speak to himself
-being denied to do sport
GG, USA, gg[/QUOTE]
You can be detained for a charge and have to wait in jail until court starts.
Sorry, but jail isn't a fucking spa. No pillows, only a thin mat (If they're lucky). Also a pillow isn't a basic necessity, you will not die if you don't get to sleep on a pillow, sure it might suck. But you don't need it to live.
[QUOTE=butters757;28413267][url]http://www.army.mil/institution/armypublicaffairs/pdf/fm2-22-3.pdf[/url]
Page 5-21, Section 5-75.
This is some really bad stuff.[/QUOTE]
Abolish this shit. What the fuck is wrong with them?
america once again showing how much it values the rights it gives people
aka, it doesn't
fucking hypocritical piece of shit government... americas government is the scum of the modern society.
They behave no better than Gadaffi in this case. They preach bringing democracy and human rights and yet they treat him like any totalitarian dictatorship would do.
Hopefully in 20 years, we'll look back to the day w/ teary eyes when a group of motivated Muslims managed to bring down the American empire armed with a pair of box-cutters.
[QUOTE=MR-X;28417464]Uhh actually maximum custody inmates do not have to be naked in a cell. The only time we usually do this is when they're suicidal so we remove everything out of the cell including their clothing and after that give them a shitty smock.
I don't know how the military runs their shit, but last time I checked civil rights of a prisoner/inmate and laws still fucking apply. And if he is a pretrial detainee/inmate he has more rights then someone convicted.
You can be detained for a charge and have to wait in jail until court starts.
Sorry, but jail isn't a fucking spa. No pillows, only a thin mat (If they're lucky). Also a pillow isn't a basic necessity, you will not die if you don't get to sleep on a pillow, sure it might suck. But you don't need it to live.[/QUOTE]
For the less informed, I was talking about the horrible conditions he was in:
[url]http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/21/lawyer-describes-solitary-confinement-of-suspected-wikileaks-source/?ref=world[/url]
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