Canada - The Harper Government is now rebroadcasting ISIS propaganda in an attempt to win the electi - Polidicks

[url=http://globalnews.ca/news/2078347/does-the-conservatives-new-ad-contravene-their-own-anti-terror-law/]Global News - Does the Conservatives’ new ad contravene their own anti-terror law?[/url] [quote]A new ad by the Conservative Party of Canada uses ISIS imagery and the ISIS anthem to attack the Liberals’ position on the terrorist group. But in a different context, those same images could be seen as promoting terrorism – something which is against the government’s newly-passed anti-terror law, Bill C-51, or the Anti-terrorism Act. Conservative Party campaign spokesman Kory Teneycke defended the party’s use of the ISIS anthem and imagery in an interview with Global News’ Tom Clark, saying, “I’ve seen images from ISIS videos on every newscast in this country and in other countries as well. It’s also part of the debate as to what is it that we’re going to do about that issue.”[/quote] Perhaps most disgusting and most out of touch with reality was this snippet from the interview: [quote][b]Kory Teneycke (conservative campaign spokesman):[/b] What we’re doing is no different than what you do on the news. Which is... [B]Tom Clark (global news reporte[/B]r): But you’re not news. You’re there advertising [B]Kory Teneycke:[/B] We’re better than news, because we’re truthful. [B]Tom Clark:[/B] I’m sorry, say that again?[/quote] The interview continues with Tom Clark's head apparently exploding. Under their own new law, it's an indictable offense (similar to what is known as a felony in the United States) to spread terrorist propaganda. ISIS creates these videos to cause fear and by reusing them in campaign videos the conservatives are quite literally helping ISIS do their dirty work.

I can't fuckinG stand smear campaigns give me a reason why you're good not why the other is crap. ..

Harper breaking his own made laws. What's new?

Maybe someone will find a way to sue the government and win over those videos - Or, you know, get a bunch of people in Harper's cabinet arrested for breaking the law.

The conservative ads focus so heavily on how the liberals and NDP will fail to defend us from ISIS, as if ISIS is at our front door knocking or something, as if a bill like C-51 does anything to eliminate the chances of terrorism. It's ridiculous how every election season the conservatives just roll out attack ad after attack ad without stop or fault or self awareness at how much they've fucked our country up in these last few years.

Please let this be the year the sleeping giant wakes up and kicks these fuckers out... I'll take a fucking ineffective Liberal-NDP coalition if that's what it takes, it's better than King Stevie with a majority actively destroying Canadian institutions and values and ruining Canada's international reputation. Fuck, elect ROB FORD instead of Harper, it would legitimately not be worse. I really hope Harper loses his seat, at least. I have high hopes with Alberta flipping in the provincials, even though fed and prov are different.

Oh my god that backed down so hard when Clark asked "What did you say?"

God, read that interview transcript. Fucking rekt. Seriously, the Liberals need to use this in their next attack ad on the Conservatives. Just footage from this interview, it's great.

Jesus christ.

I have such a deep undying hate for Harper, I really can't wait for the country to go back to normal after he's gone and forgotten about.

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48065756]I can't fuckinG stand smear campaigns give me a reason why you're good not why the other is crap. ..[/QUOTE] They aren't, that's why they run smear campaigns.

good to know other countries elections can be just as ridiculous as ours...

[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48065756]I can't fuckinG stand smear campaigns give me a reason why you're good not why the other is crap. ..[/QUOTE] Yeah but at least Harper isn't Justin Trudeau because "he's just not ready" :downs:

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;48068961]Yeah but at least Harper isn't Justin Trudeau because "he's just not ready" :downs:[/QUOTE] It's really strange how the Conservatives are focusing their attack ads exclusively on the Liberals when it's the NDP they need to worry about.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;48069014]It's really strange how the Conservatives are focusing their attack ads exclusively on the Liberals when it's the NDP they need to worry about.[/QUOTE] The NDP's been pretty weak after Layton's death, no good figureheads to lead it. Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is the son of one of Canada's most beloved past prime ministers, he's a threat.

[QUOTE=archangel125;48069025]The NDP's been pretty weak after Layton's death, no good figureheads to lead it. Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is the son of one of Canada's most beloved past prime ministers, he's a threat.[/QUOTE] The NDP have been leading the polls for the last three weeks

[QUOTE=archangel125;48069025]The NDP's been pretty weak after Layton's death, no good figureheads to lead it. Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is the son of one of Canada's most beloved past prime ministers, he's a threat.[/QUOTE] Not really. He has a name, and that's it. The guys a child, and not very well versed in the depths of politics, the game of politics, and he doesn't seem all that qualified to lead anything to be totally honest. Tom Mulcair, while he's not Jack Layton(Good fucking god it's hard to phrase how much we need that man), is at least a hairs breadth better than Trudeau, and Harper. I think the conservatives think all the young people in this country are looking at Justin as an equal. He's not, he's a silver spoon child and from the few politically active 20 year olds and 30 year olds I know really don't particularly enjoy him either. Mulcair may not have come from nothing, but he also didn't come from a canadian prime ministers family. And as far as the actual voting record goes, Trudeau is a really underwhelming person. Maybe him legalizing marijuana is what will make young people care(Which is ridiculous) when he's in office, but he voted for C-51 so I know that a LOT of people who were liberal turned tail at that, because that was/should be/is seen as a big deal.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48069056]Maybe him legalizing marijuana is what will make young people care(Which is ridiculous) when he's in office, but he voted for C-51 so I know that a LOT of people who were liberal turned tail at that, because that was/should be/is seen as a big deal.[/QUOTE] Hopefully people will realize that the NDP has supported marijuana legalization for decades and support them.

[QUOTE=archangel125;48069025]The NDP's been pretty weak after Layton's death, no good figureheads to lead it. Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is the son of one of Canada's most beloved past prime ministers, he's a threat.[/QUOTE] People keep saying this, but that isn't true. If you look at the polls NDP actually comes out AHEAD of Liberals by a couple of percentage points.

[QUOTE=Funktastic Dog;48069073]People keep saying this, but that isn't true. If you look at the polls NDP actually comes out AHEAD of Liberals by a couple of percentage points.[/QUOTE] Then I hope they have the good sense to form a coalition to take Harper down. I feel stupid because I haven't seen the polls lately. I can hardly believe Harper's in the lead. I really hope the liberals and NDP join forces.

So.. the Canadian Conservative Party is basically ISIS? Not surprising.

I don't know, I've grown fond of Tom Mulcair but it's probably because my brother's worked under him and he admires the man a lot. As far as I know, the NDP's never done any kind of attack ad.

[QUOTE=archangel125;48069025]The NDP's been pretty weak after Layton's death, no good figureheads to lead it. Justin Trudeau, on the other hand, is the son of one of Canada's most beloved past prime ministers, he's a threat.[/QUOTE] You sure? Even after they won in Alberta?

[QUOTE=archangel125;48069095]Then I hope they have the good sense to form a coalition to take Harper down. I feel stupid because I haven't seen the polls lately. I can hardly believe Harper's in the lead. I really hope the liberals and NDP join forces.[/QUOTE] It really shows how fucked the three party system is, considering NDP and Liberals are both at around 29% and Conservatives are at 30%. Like, if you asked any NDP or Lib, they would easily tell you that the other party is better than Conservatives.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48069070]Hopefully people will realize that the NDP has supported marijuana legalization for decades and support them.[/QUOTE] Mulclair has actually publically said that it shouldn't be legal, which is really unfortunate.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;48081009]Can anyone educate me over Canadian politics? I've always known Canada as progressive, advanced country with higher standards than its southern neighbor. Was I wrong? Everytime I see Harper shit, I feel like I am being wrong. How do they even stay in power?[/QUOTE] Because we have several left wing parties but only one right wing party. He wins because people parading as fiscal Conservatives vote him in every time. He's never been voted in on a majority, our election system just sucks. He's also not against gay marriage or abortion, so he's not nearly as bad as the republicans.

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;48081094]He's also not against gay marriage or abortion[/QUOTE] Harper [I]tried[/I] to reverse the gay marriage decision immediately after getting into office and the support he got was so dismal, and the opposition so fierce, he backed off immediately from his pre-election promises to repeal it and has never gone back since. I don't think he likes it, but he knows better than to risk everything by taking on the entire country over it. And even Harper knows better than to reopen the debate on abortion in Canada--it's decided. Doesn't stop extreme-right backbenchers, basically our equivalent to Tea Party candidates, from getting noisy about it (and being shut down by Harper--one of his few good decisions in office).

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48081175]Harper [I]tried[/I] to reverse the gay marriage decision immediately after getting into office and the support he got was so dismal, and the opposition so fierce, he backed off immediately from his pre-election promises to repeal it and has never gone back since. I don't think he likes it, but he knows better than to risk everything by taking on the entire country over it. [/QUOTE] He ran on "reopening the debate" on gay marriage in 2004 and it failed in the house of Commons as you said. However what you haven't mentioned is that in 2006 he said he considered the Gay marriage debate closed (ie leave Canada with gay marriage). He's also had a majority since 2011 and hasn't even touched gay marriage. If the Conservatives wanted to they could ban gay marriage, but they haven't even brought it up. [editline]29th June 2015[/editline] I think it's safe to say that he's not actually against gay marriage, at least not anymore. [editline]29th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Trebgarta;48081192]Why don't the leftists do a cooperation, since coalitions are out of the table, some of them can resign, and let one collect the votes? Anyway, FPTP is awful, you've gotta change it, and real soon.[/QUOTE] Because the left have to be in power for that to happen.

Yes, Harper deserves credit for firmly closing the book on that fight, but that's faint praise. I'm saying, I think he personally is not comfortable with it (but fuck if I know, he isn't talking about it), but he knows to keep his mouth shut and not push his values on a nation that clearly doesn't agree with them. As Prime Minister I don't really care if he is personally against it or not as long as he maintains this policy of not trying to reverse it, and that'll be one of the two good things he's actually done.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;48081192]Why don't the leftists do a cooperation, since coalitions are out of the table, some of them can resign, and let one collect the votes?[/QUOTE] Because the liberals are bad.