• To combat Daesh/ISIS, United States is sending 450 troops to Iraq to help train the Iraqi military;
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[quote]US President Barack Obama has ordered the[B] deployment of up to 450 more US troops to Iraq to advise and assist local forces[/B] in an effort to reverse the recent gains of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). Under the plan, the US will open a fifth training site in Iraq, with the goal of integrating Iraqi Security Forces and Sunni fighters. The immediate objective is to retake the city of Ramadi, seized by ISIL last month. Obama made the decision at the request of Haider al-Abbadi, Iraq's prime minister, and based on advice from Pentagon leaders, the White House said. [B]The US troops will not be used in a combat role.[/B] [B]"These new advisers will work to build capacity of Iraqi forces, including local tribal fighters, to improve their ability to plan, lead, and conduct operations against ISIL in eastern Anbar under the command of the prime minister,"[/B] Josh Earnest, White House spokesperson, said. The plan is not a change in US strategy, the administration says, but addresses a need to get Sunnis more involved in the fight, a much-cited weakness in the current mission. "Washington keeps pressuring Baghdad to be more inclusive in its policies, but the reality is that it takes time to bridge the sectarian differences that were aggravated during the Maliki years," Al Jazeera's Rosiland Jordan reported from Washington DC, referring to Nouri al-Maliki, the former Iraqi prime minister. [B]Questions remain about the Shia-led Iraqi government's commitment to recruit fighters, especially among Sunni tribesmen, to oust ISIL from Ramadi and Fallujah, a nearby city the rebels have held for more than a year.[/B] Up to now, Iraqi officials have chosen to deploy most US-trained Iraqi troops in defensive formations around Baghdad, the capital.[/quote] [url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/06/send-hundreds-extra-troops-train-iraqi-army-150610182231497.html[/url]
So what are they doing about one of their training camps being literally empty for the past month? You can take a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.
What about those years and years of training before we left? Did that knowledge take off it's uniform and run for the hills too?
[QUOTE=purvisdavid1;47940001]What about those years and years of training before we left? Did that knowledge take off it's uniform and run for the hills too?[/QUOTE] What I gained from the article is this is particularly focusing on integrating militias into the army, not necessarily retrain army soldiers again.
My sister's new husband is set to deploy to Iraq sometime within the next year, I don't know when specifically. Its not his first deployment by any means.
I wonder what happened to that super squad with a bunch of special forces troops from all over the world.
[QUOTE=booster;47940198]I wonder what happened to that super squad with a bunch of special forces troops from all over the world.[/QUOTE] They're probably doing their jobs. I remember that the UK sent over a bunch of S.A.S dudes who were basically just zipping around the desert on ATV's with sniper rifles.
Well, time for Iraq Round three.
[QUOTE=Rapscallion92;47939992]So what are they doing about one of their training camps being literally empty for the past month? You can take a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.[/QUOTE] When the horse has gone without for too long, it'll damn sure drink.
Why are they called daesh all of a sudden
[QUOTE=Re1nhardt;47940390]Why are they called daesh all of a sudden[/QUOTE] Just FP nomenclature [quote=Wikipedia]The group is known in Arabic as ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah fīl-ʿIrāq wash-Shām, leading to the acronym Da'ish, Da'eesh, or DAESH[/quote]
last i checked militias were doing most of the fighting anyway, then the kurds and isof i doubt they want to be integrated into the military though, they have never had any allegiance to iraq as a nation
[QUOTE=Re1nhardt;47940390]Why are they called daesh all of a sudden[/QUOTE] It's been used here on FP for about 2 and half months now. [editline]12th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jund;47940452]last i checked militias were doing most of the fighting anyway, then the kurds and isof i doubt they want to be integrated into the military though, they have never had any allegiance to iraq as a nation[/QUOTE] The lack of national allegiance is the main issue with militias. Often they are caught looting and pillaging places they liberated from the Islamic State which is the largest cause of people joining the other side to begin with. That, and it's always dangerous to a nation's sovereignty when you have paramilitary groups working within the country.
[QUOTE=Jund;47940452]last i checked militias were doing most of the fighting anyway, then the kurds and isof i doubt they want to be integrated into the military though, they have never had any allegiance to iraq as a nation[/QUOTE] And if you seen the way they fight, they were fucking terrible. Now, the problem is that ISIS are using captured armoured vehicles as suicide bombs. Its gonna be tough fighting them when you have a truck speeding down towards your checkpoint and all you have got are a handful of guys and 1 humvee guarding the whole stretch of road. They need heavier firepower, but you have to make sure they don't fucking waste em anyhow, and that it doesn't fall into ISIS hands.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;47940383]When the horse has gone without for too long, it'll damn sure drink.[/QUOTE] Yeah and if we wait too long this time the horse might lose it's chance to get to water
This is like deju vu in Vietnam all over again.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47940460]It's been used here on FP for about 2 and half months now.[/quote] There's not much point in calling them that if A: you're going to post every little bit of news regarding them (calling them "daesh" is an effort to take away their notoriety and media impact) and B: if you're only going to put ISIS right next to it.
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