• UK: Smoking and Drinking amongst Young People the lowest on record
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[IMG]http://c1.thejournal.ie/media/2013/06/cigarettes-alcohol-390x285.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]Young people in England born since the turn of the century are the most clean-living generation in recent times, with the rates of those choosing to smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol the lowest on record. Fewer than 5% of children aged eight to 15 have smoked, down three-quarters since 2003, while only about 17% admitted ever drinking alcohol, a fall of two-thirds, according to an annual survey of health trends. At the same time, the proportion claiming to eat five portions of fruit and veg has almost doubled in the same period to a fifth. Despite that, 28% of children aged two to 15 were overweight or obese in 2015, and only one in five were as physically active as they ought to have been.[/QUOTE] Source: [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/15/smoking-drinking-young-people-lowest-level-on-record-england"]The Guardian UK[/URL]
Mixed bag then. That's certainly not the case over here, I can tell you. I'd say our drinking levels are just about the same, though smoking is definitely down.
Everyone around where I live seems to have started smoking from the age of like 13, maybe my area just has everyone in the country in these demographics.
I bet it's because after austerity came in, they can't afford to get someone to buy them booze and cigs. :downs:
Probably because they don't have any fucking money.
I'd say its a good thing. Even if its a result of lack of money. Yeah, its a given that its like pulling fucking teeth to get a well paying job these days, but on the bright side of this, its harmful to your body and as a result many people are likely to live long and fulfilling lives because of it.
For tobacco. :smug:
We don't need tobacco or alcohol to kill ourselves, we can just crush ourselves with debt
Drinking at its lowest? National scandal. Or maybe the political scene here is so bad that not even drinking drowns our sorrows, or none of us can afford anything.
too bad big tobacco moved on to asia where it can utilize the forces of trade treaties to prevent age restrictions and liabilities that plague them in western countries i remember reading something where a congressmen was like blaming obama and liberals for the decline in smoking and how its impacting the poor tobacco farmers in his state and like i just can't believe with everything known today you can honestly defend it i hope it does go by the wayside at some point its a terrible industry
that's what happens when on-demand entertainment is available at just about anyone's fingertips
Probably because none of us can afford to. The only people I know who still regularly drink and haven't quit smoking are either people still living with their parents, are alcoholics, or have no other hobbies outside of smoking/getting high. If I was to take up smoking again the habit would literally empty the last dregs from my bank account each month.
[QUOTE=cheetahben;51553202]that's what happens when on-demand entertainment is available at just about anyone's fingertips[/QUOTE] this seems pretty reasonable. I guess kids tend to stay in most more now and don't get bored to the point they sit in a park getting drunk
A lot of people I know who used to smoke have curbed there habits with E-Cigs, that might be one of the things stopping people from getting into smoking.
They most likely have no choice but to quit or cut down because of the financial times we are living in.
Yeah the kids are probably going to be inactive because their parents are busy working two jobs and also now the benefits have been cut further so they'll be even more unable to afford to keep their kids healthy nor even able to parent them adequately to get some exercise, in some ways the computer has been a better parent in many ways. Would be good to see what other drugs the kids use because cigarettes and alcohol are pretty difficult to obtain as a kid in the first place unless your parents left it lying around in an obvious place or just let you drink and smoke.
This is self reported though right? I mean how are they going to know for sure? Maybe it's just that they're more scared to admit it because there's more taboo about it. [editline]19th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=jonu67;51553564]A lot of people I know who used to smoke have curbed there habits with E-Cigs, that might be one of the things stopping people from getting into smoking.[/QUOTE] I know people for whom vaping got them more addicted to nicotine - it's just too easy to pick up a vape and have a toke whenever you crave that bit of nicotine
Hopefully this study will prove to American lawmakers that an absurdly high drinking age isn't the solution to kids drinking. Oh wait, scaremongering groups rule US law. Good job my British friends though.
[QUOTE]Fewer than 5% of [I]children aged eight to 15[/I] have smoked, down three-quarters since 2003, while only about 17% admitted ever drinking alcohol[/QUOTE] 8-15 Of course they're not going to fucking admit it, for starters minors drinking alcohol is illegal, and for both they're likely to get bollocked by their parents. Ask the same people in 5 years time or so when they reach late teens/adulthood and you'll likely see a much different story.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;51554249]8-15 Of course they're not going to fucking admit it, for starters minors drinking alcohol is illegal, and for both they're likely to get bollocked by their parents. Ask the same people in 5 years time or so when they reach late teens/adulthood and you'll likely see a much different story.[/QUOTE] Minors drinking isn't always illegal, the law allows parents in private property to give small amounts to their kids from 5 and above at their own discretion, for example a half glass of wine at Christmas or similar for a 13 year old is what happened to me. Of course it's a safeguarding issue if parents have their kids necking bottles and downing shots, but a mouthful of dad's beer or mums cider is fine.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;51554249]8-15 Of course they're not going to fucking admit it, for starters minors drinking alcohol is illegal, and for both they're likely to get bollocked by their parents. Ask the same people in 5 years time or so when they reach late teens/adulthood and you'll likely see a much different story.[/QUOTE] For alcohol sure, but I don't think thats the case for smoking, I honestly think smoking culture is dying off as the generations pass. The combination of education, smoking bans, lack of advertisement everywhere and the expensive cost have helped paint the image that smokers are mugs, it's still a taboo but it's not a cool one.
And male suicide rates hitting new highs... coincidence? I think not.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;51554249]8-15 Of course they're not going to fucking admit it, for starters minors drinking alcohol is illegal, and for both they're likely to get bollocked by their parents. Ask the same people in 5 years time or so when they reach late teens/adulthood and you'll likely see a much different story.[/QUOTE] You can drink alcohol in a private place from age 5 and up. [editline]20th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=matt000024;51553990]Hopefully this study will prove to American lawmakers that an absurdly high drinking age isn't the solution to kids drinking. Oh wait, scaremongering groups rule US law. Good job my British friends though.[/QUOTE] The US law was established in order to cap drink driving, which it statistically has. I approve of the US drinking age in context of the US-- the UK doesn't have the same issue.
It has been lowering here as well. My co-workers are like ~10 years older than me and they're absolutely astounded how little I drink compared to them in my age. And I do the same for the trainees we get here, most of them don't drink alcohol at all. Even coffee and sugar seem to be out. And nobody here smokes, which is very good. I've been free of the horrible stench that comes along with it for a looooong time because of it.
[QUOTE=SgtTupelo;51555664]It has been lowering here as well. My co-workers are like ~10 years older than me and they're absolutely astounded how little I drink compared to them in my age. And I do the same for the trainees we get here, most of them don't drink alcohol at all. Even coffee and sugar seem to be out. And nobody here smokes, which is very good. I've been free of the horrible stench that comes along with it for a looooong time because of it.[/QUOTE] Be glad there are no smokers, it's almost new year, which means everyone wants to quit. Absolutely intolerable coworkers until they all eventually fail.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;51554249]8-15 Of course they're not going to fucking admit it, for starters minors drinking alcohol is illegal, and for both they're likely to get bollocked by their parents. Ask the same people in 5 years time or so when they reach late teens/adulthood and you'll likely see a much different story.[/QUOTE] They were probably just as unlikely to admit it last time they did a survey. Unless it's become significantly more stigmatised recently, the results should still represent a decrease in use.
shit [editline]20th December 2016[/editline] i'm not having no straight-edge kids get 'em started in the womb i say
I wonder what the statistics for drugs are, however? [QUOTE]...and only one in five were as physically active as they ought to have been.[/QUOTE] Uh wait what?
Tobacco is gross, the only time I ever had Tobacco was in a blunt and I didn't really like the high I got from it. Weed is just infinitely better and there is far less of a health risk in an eighth compared to a box of Marlboro.
[QUOTE=Phycosymo;51556420]Tobacco is gross, the only time I ever had Tobacco was in a blunt and I didn't really like the high I got from it. Weed is just infinitely better and there is far less of a health risk in an eighth compared to a box of Marlboro.[/QUOTE] Burning plant matter [I]will[/I] produce carcinogens and there's no way around it. The only thing weed maybe has going for it is that you need to smoke less of it to achieve the required effects.
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