Afghani Taliban condemns Pakistani Taliban attack on School - Polidicks

[quote](Reuters) - The Afghanistan Taliban have condemned an attack by the Pakistani Taliban on a school in Pakistan that killed 141 people on Tuesday. "The intentional killing of innocent people, children and women are against the basics of Islam and this criteria has to be considered by every Islamic party and government," Zabihullah Mujahid said in a statement.[/quote] [url]http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/pakistan-school-afghan-idINKBN0JU2BS20141216[/url] [quote]The statement was released on the Afghan Taliban's official Urdu website. The Pakistani Taliban is not named in the short statement, but the Afghan Taliban says it expresses "sorrow over the tragedy and grief for the families of the victims." "Innocent men, women and children were killed intentionally" and this is against "Islamic principles." The Afghan Taliban claims it has "always condemned the killing of innocent people and children."[/quote] [url]http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/12/afghan_taliban_relea.php[/url] [quote]The Afghan Taliban claims it has "always condemned the killing of innocent people and children."[/quote] lol

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Well, yeah, the Afghan Taliban are major shits, but they're not really terrorists in that sense of the word. It really is more of an armed fundamentalist political group. Which is different from being a terrorist in-... Some way or another.

[QUOTE=Riller;46733376]Well, yeah, the Afghan Taliban are major shits, but they're not really terrorists in that sense of the word. It really is more of an armed fundamentalist political group. Which is different from being a terrorist in-... Some way or another.[/QUOTE] They are both terrorist groups. The actions of Al Qaeda have led us to believe that terrorism is the use of violence against [i]innocent[/i] people to further political goals, when it is truly the use of violence in general to further political goals.

[QUOTE=PolarEventide;46733389]They are both terrorist groups. The actions of Al Qaeda have led us to believe that terrorism is the use of violence against [i]innocent[/i] people to further political goals, when it is truly the use of violence in general to further political goals.[/QUOTE] I dunno; they seem pretty hyped at the thought of creating and running an actual, 'functional' state like they had back in the days they were in charge; not just blow shit up to get a point across. Kind of the same with ISIS, really. Much as it's easier to just see 'em as a buncha towelhead terrorists who do terrorist things for terrorist reasons, they're more than that. I don't think Al Quaeda, Nursa, Rote Armee Fraktion, Boku Haraam or any of those small-time groups had any actual, realistic plans for what they'd do if they got what they wanted.

[QUOTE=Riller;46733376]Well, yeah, the Afghan Taliban are major shits, but they're not really terrorists in that sense of the word. It really is more of an armed fundamentalist political group. Which is different from being a terrorist in-... Some way or another.[/QUOTE] what do you mean? afghani taliban routinely murdered civilians and force kids into becoming suicide bombers and all that kinda shit. all these cunts are just as bad as each other i dunno why they bother with these attempts at PR moves

[QUOTE=Riller;46733376]Well, yeah, the Afghan Taliban are major shits, but they're not really terrorists in that sense of the word. It really is more of an armed fundamentalist political group. Which is different from being a terrorist in-... Some way or another.[/QUOTE] Oh ya they didn't use human shields and strapped bombs to them, or were responsible for the majority of civilian deaths, not at all. Correct me if I'm wrong but suicide and human bombs tend to incite terror among a populace.

[QUOTE=Riller;46733376]Well, yeah, the Afghan Taliban are major shits, but they're not really terrorists in that sense of the word. It really is more of an armed fundamentalist political group. Which is different from being a terrorist in-... Some way or another.[/QUOTE] Are you fucking kidding? Don't be fooled, this is merely cover your ass talk from the Taliban. Tell me [quote] According to a 55-page report by the United Nations, the Taliban, while trying to consolidate control over northern and western Afghanistan, [B]committed systematic massacres against civilians.[/B][38][39] UN officials stated that there had been "15 massacres" between 1996 and 2001.[38][39] They also said, that [B]"[t]hese have been highly systematic and they all lead back to the [Taliban] Ministry of Defense or to Mullah Omar himself."[/B][38][39] "These are the same type of war crimes as were committed in Bosnia and should be prosecuted in international courts", one UN official was quoted as saying.[38] The documents also reveal the role of Arab and Pakistani support troops in these killings.[38][39] Bin Laden's so-called 055 Brigade was responsible for mass-killings of Afghan civilians.[33] The report by the United Nations quotes [B]"eyewitnesses in many villages describing Arab fighters carrying long knives used for slitting throats and skinning people".[/B][38][39] The [B]Taliban's former ambassador to Pakistan, Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, in late 2011 stated that cruel behaviour under and by the Taliban had been "necessary".[160][/B] In 1998, the[B] United Nations accused the Taliban of denying emergency food by the UN's World Food Programme to 160,000 hungry and starving people "for political and military reasons".[161] The UN said the Taliban were starving people for their military agenda and using humanitarian assistance as a weapon of war.[/B] On August 8, 1998 [B]the Taliban launched an attack on Mazar-i Sharif. Of 1500 defenders only 100 survived the engagement. Once in control the Taliban began to kill people indiscriminately. At first shooting people in the street, they soon began to target Hazaras. Women were raped, and thousands of people were locked in containers and left to suffocate. This ethnic cleansing left an estimated 5,000 to 6,000 dead.[/B][82][162] At this time ten Iranian diplomats and a journalist were killed. Iran assumed the Taliban had murdered them, and mobilized its army, deploying men along the border with Afghanistan. By the middle of September there were 250,000 Iranian personnel stationed on the border. Pakistan mediated and the bodies were returned to Tehran towards the end of the month. The killings of the Diplomats had been carried out by Sipah-e-Sahaba a Pakistani Sunni group with close ties to the ISI.[109][163][B] They burned orchards, crops and destroyed irrigation systems, and forced more than 100,000 people from their homes with hundreds of men, women and children still unaccounted for.[164] In a major effort to retake the Shomali plains from the United Front, the Taliban indiscriminately killed civilians, while uprooting and expelling the population.[/B] Among others, Kamal Hossein, a special reporter for the UN, reported on these and other war crimes. The city of Istalif i. e. was home to more than 45,000 people. In Istalif the Taliban gave 24 hours notice to the population to leave, then completely razed the town leaving the people destitute.[42][165] [B]In 1999 the town of Bamian was taken, hundreds of men, women and children were executed. Houses were razed and some were used for forced labor.[166] There was a further massacre at the town of Yakaolang in January 2001. An estimated 300 people were murdered, along with two delegations of Hazara elders who had tried to intercede.[25][/B] By 1999, the Taliban had forced hundreds of thousands of people from the Shomali Plains and other regions conducting a policy of scorched earth burning homes, farm land and gardens.[42] [/quote] By what metric are the Taliban NOT terrorists? terrorism: the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. I'm not sure why people are rating lachzor dumb either, hes exactly right. Whenever there is an Afghan related thread it always seems to me that people think Iraq and Afghanistan are identical situations. They're not even remotely similar. [editline]17th December 2014[/editline] btw [quote] According to the United Nations, the Taliban were responsible for 76% of civilian casualties in Afghanistan in 2009, 75% in 2010 and 80% in 2011. [/quote] UN figures, which are usually more than happy to indict US forces for their happy-go-lucky attitude with artillery, gives us those figures. Thats a huge amount of civilian death tolls from people who don't even possess aircraft, artillery or a navy.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46734298]what do you mean? afghani taliban routinely murdered civilians and force kids into becoming suicide bombers and all that kinda shit. all these cunts are just as bad as each other i dunno why they bother with these attempts at PR moves[/QUOTE] Its not a PR move tbh, its a power struggle. They are trying to exert dominance over the other one. Although it seems even the Pakistani Taliban seem to think they went a little too far.

[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46734298]what do you mean? afghani taliban routinely murdered civilians and force kids into becoming suicide bombers and all that kinda shit. all these cunts are just as bad as each other i dunno why they bother with these attempts at PR moves[/QUOTE] i believe it's a misunderstanding of terms. the pakistani taliban is a nonstate actor whose primary goal is opposition to the current state, while the afghan taliban is more interested in being a government in its own right and in fact was in large part the government of afghanistan in the 90s. hence it more closely resembles state-sponsored terrorism and only began to use the tactics of non-state groups when it was deposed by the coalition invasion in the early 2000s. basically it depends on your definition of terrorism. the afghan taliban has been a terrorist organization in the same sense that draconian authoritarian regimes all over the world are also terrorist organizations, which thus makes it separate from more clandestine non-state networks like al qaeda.

[QUOTE=PolarEventide;46733389]They are both terrorist groups. The actions of Al Qaeda have led us to believe that terrorism is the use of violence against [i]innocent[/i] people to further political goals, when it is truly the use of violence in general to further political goals.[/QUOTE] Al Queda is separate from the Taliban. Bin Laden was under protection of the Taliban and wasn't actually a member of them, they were just honour bound to protect him. Their culture is to protect guests, even if they are enemies. Several Journalists and that green beret guy travelled with the locals and were protected because of that culture. It was the invasion which drove the Taliban in with Al Queda. They're both assholes but Taliban were originally pretty happy sitting in Afghanistan/Pakistan with no intentions of spreading.