• Unvaccinated Six Year Old Boy Diagnosed With Diphtheria In Spain Dies
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[QUOTE]The six year old boy in Olot (Catalonia) who became ill with diphtheria died overnight at the Vall d’Hebron hospital in Barcelona, a spokeswoman for the Catalan regional health authorities confirmed to The Spain Report by telephone.He had not received anti-diphtheria vaccinations. The young boy was admitted to hospital 28 days ago after it was confirmed he was suffering from the first case of diphtheria recorded in Spain since 1987. An anti-toxin treatment was rushed to Barcelona from Russia but proved ineffective. [B]The boy’s parents felt “terribly guilty” and that they had been “tricked” by anti-vaccine groups who convinced them not to vaccinate their son[/B], the public health secretary in Catalonia said during a press conference on June 5. By June 8, it was reported the boy was being kept alive on life support machines in the hospital’s intensive care unit. During a screening process following the boy’s infection, health authorities in Catalonia discovered[B] eight more children were carrying diphtheria bacteria,[U] but had not developed the disease because they had been vaccinated[/U].[/B][/QUOTE] [URL]https://www.thespainreport.com/16953/six-year-old-boy-with-diphtheria-in-catalonia-dies/[/URL]
This really should be a lesson to all those anti-vaccine people out there. At least the boys parents had seen the light, shame that their child had to die for them to see it.
Sure, but at least he wasn't autistic...! :rolleyes:
It makes me so angry to see this happen and Andrew Wakefield is not only walking free but has profited nicely from spreading the toxic cultural meme that killed this little boy. I hope his parents find some way of suing the shit out of every antivax person that talked them into this. I don't know on what grounds, but if it can be justified and there's enough for a reasonable chance at winning, there needs to be consequences for this. Antivax is domestic bioterrorism.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;48065601]This really should be a lesson to all those anti-vaccine people out there. At least the boys parents had seen the light, shame that their child had to die for them to see it.[/QUOTE] All we can do is hope that more parents learn from this completely avoidable tragedy.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48065612]All we can do is hope that more parents learn from this completely avoidable tragedy.[/QUOTE] It's just not a good thing that those people aren't that good with evidence that doesn't support their own claims. It would be nice though, if more people saw the light
This was somehow still vaccines' fault!
to put things into perspective - the chemicals used in vaccines are completely negligible. you can find more mercury in a tuna sandwich
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48065602]Sure, but at least he wasn't autistic...! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] It sucks knowing that probably every anti-vaxxer thinks like this.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;48065651]to put things into perspective - the chemicals used in vaccines are completely negligible. you can find more mercury in a tuna sandwich[/QUOTE] You can't really argue that to these types of people though, hell it took a tragedy to get this poor boys parents to finally recognize false information. Some, if not most Anti-Vaxxers will be stuck in their ways until it hits them close to home, that's just how it is, and quite frankly it sickens me. Which is why Vaccinations should be mandatory for everyone, so the stupid people are forced to be pushed out of that way of thinking.
[QUOTE=jonu67;48065679]You can't really argue that to these types of people though, hell it took a tragedy to get this poor boys parents to finally recognize false information. Some, if not most Anti-Vaxxers will be stuck in their ways until it hits them close to home, that's just how it is, and quite frankly it sickens me.[/QUOTE] this assumes that anyone who is an anti-vaxxer can't be convinced. anyone can be convinced to believe that, eventually, they need to realize that their opinion on something may not hold any real basis in reality
[QUOTE=Ownederd;48065687]this assumes that anyone who is an anti-vaxxer can't be convinced. anyone can be convinced to believe that, eventually, they need to realize that their opinion on something may not hold any real basis in reality[/QUOTE] I've seen loads of anti-vaxxers ignore evidence to the contrary, going as far as to completely ignore the advice of a Doctor, because "They know best"
Eventually a group of antivaxxers is going to get infected with polio or some such and allow it to mutate into a form that the regular vaccine won't stop.
[QUOTE=jonu67;48065694]I've seen loads of anti-vaxxers ignore evidence to the contrary, going as far as to completely ignore the advice of a Doctor, because "They know best"[/QUOTE] Eventually they just spout obscenities, and repeat their mantra. Anti-vaxxers like to spout out that they have an open mind, while being super close minded. They act like children, and sadly, harm children.
Anti vaxxers will keep claiming death is better than autism instead of fixing their stupidity.
[QUOTE=jonu67;48065694]I've seen loads of anti-vaxxers ignore evidence to the contrary, going as far as to completely ignore the advice of a Doctor, because "They know best"[/QUOTE] My mother is an anti-vaxxer and her views on it are retarded. A single death from complications arising from vaccinations is enough in her eyes to completely offset any good coming from vaccines. According to her if they're not perfect they should not be used. Under that logic I suppose we shouldn't use any sort of medication since they all have some kind of side effects. Probably shouldn't perform any kind of surgery either since it can have complications as well.
[QUOTE=Alice3173;48066172]My mother is an anti-vaxxer and her views on it are retarded. A single death from complications arising from vaccinations is enough in her eyes to completely offset any good coming from vaccines. According to her if they're not perfect they should not be used. Under that logic I suppose we shouldn't use any sort of medication since they all have some kind of side effects. Probably shouldn't perform any kind of surgery either since it can have complications as well.[/QUOTE] I wonder how many vaccines she had as a child that weren't 100% perfect, and how she justifies her mental integrity. The confirmation bias is so thick I could smother seniors with it.
Worst thing is anti-vaxxers here have the following reasoning to convince their friends to not vaccinate: "Don't do it, everyone else vaccinates, so your kid won't get any disease because no-one carries it" :downs:
At least they weren't the type to go "b-but we got all the organic natural herbs and crystal therapy we could afford this must be the government poisoning our son to institute thier anti choice agenda etc. etc."
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48065602]Sure, but at least he wasn't autistic...! :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] The day is saved
This is a fucking disgrace. I honestly cannot respect someone so willfully ignorant as an anti-vaxxer, in this day and age.
The parents should be tried for manslaughter and child abuse/neglect. But unfortunately that isn't going to happen.
[QUOTE=draugur;48066478]The parents should be tried for manslaughter and child abuse/neglect. But unfortunately that isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE] I dunno. I'd rather have the blame put on the people that convinced them that vaccinations are bad.
[QUOTE=draugur;48066478]The parents should be tried for manslaughter and child abuse/neglect. But unfortunately that isn't going to happen.[/QUOTE] I think living with the fact that they now know they could have saved their son is punishment enough, they got caught up in misinformation and paid the price. Never seeing their child again.
It'd be interesting to see how anti-vaxxers spin these kind of news.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;48068314]It'd be interesting to see how anti-vaxxers spin these kind of news.[/QUOTE] God's will
[QUOTE=Kyle902;48065883]Eventually a group of antivaxxers is going to get infected with polio or some such and allow it to mutate into a form that the regular vaccine won't stop.[/QUOTE] No, it won't be a group of anti-vaxxers. The majority of these people are actually vaccinated themselves, when they were kids. It'll be their children that that'll happen to.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48065637]This was somehow still vaccines' fault![/QUOTE] "If everyone ELSE had vaccinated their children then he wouldn't have died!" - Anti-vax nutter. [QUOTE=jonu67;48065694]I've seen loads of anti-vaxxers ignore evidence to the contrary, going as far as to completely ignore the advice of a Doctor, because "They know best"[/QUOTE] I've seen people argue that there's a difference between ingesting mercury and injecting it. :downs:
I did a quick search, Spain's last cases of Diphtheria was 2 back in 1998. It's stunning and concerning that anti-vax people are persuasive enough to drive people against decades of standard medicine, and that there are people who will believe it. WHO data [url]http://apps.who.int/immunization_monitoring/globalsummary/timeseries/tsincidencediphtheria.html[/url]
[QUOTE=demoguy08;48068314]It'd be interesting to see how anti-vaxxers spin these kind of news.[/QUOTE] "he died undiagnosed with autism."
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