• ~1,000 civilians found massacred in Ivory Coast village.
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[release]Reporting from Johannesburg, South Africa— As forces loyal to Ivory Coast's rival presidents fought pitched battles in the country's biggest city, the Red Cross reported an ominous development in the increasingly brutal struggle for control: the massacre of up to 1,000 civilians in a western town. [b]The killings in Duekoue reportedly came over the course of three days last week after forces loyal to the internationally recognized winner of last fall's presidential election, Alassane Ouattara, took control of the town. The International Committee of the Red Cross said it remained unclear who was responsible for the killings of an estimated 800 to 1,000 people, but a spokeswoman said the scene in Duekoue was horrific. "We were shocked by the magnitude of the brutality of the event," said Dorothea Krimitsas. "Our colleagues found a huge amount of bodies."[/b] A spokesman for Ouattara said Saturday that his loyalists killed only fighters in the town as they swept down from the north, taking vast swaths of the West African country in their bid to force Laurent Gbagbo to cede power. The capital, Yamoussoukro, fell last week with barely a shot fired. The Red Cross and the Catholic charity Caritas, which sent teams to the town last week, called for a thorough investigation. The killings occurred in an area where ethnic and communal tensions over land have been deepened by the recent political crisis, which began when Gbagbo, the incumbent, refused to leave office after the international community declared Ouattara the winner in U.N.-certified elections in November. African and world leaders have called on Gbagbo to relinquish power to end the bloodshed. But he has dug in as fighting spread across many districts of Abidjan, the commercial capital. The fiercest battles were near the presidential palace in the Cocody neighborhood, where many believe Gbagbo may be. Four U.N. peacekeepers were badly hurt in an attack by forces loyal to Gbagbo, the U.N. reported Saturday. They were on a humanitarian mission, escorting civilians, according to the U.N. The U.N. condemned a "wave of targeted attacks" against its peacekeepers by Gbagbo loyalists. Throughout the crisis, the Gbagbo camp has accused the U.N. of genocide, illegal killings and partisanship. When the Red Cross and Caritas sent teams into Duekoue last week, the investigators found streets littered with bodies, mostly killed by small-arms fire or machetes. But neither organization was willing to lay blame for the mass killings. "It's sketchy information," a Caritas spokesman, Patrick Nicholson, said Saturday in a phone interview. "Our colleagues are still working in the area, trying to get the facts together, trying to figure out who was involved [in the killings]," Red Cross spokeswoman Krimitsas said. This cocoa-producing nation was one of the most prosperous countries in the region until a civil war in 2002 saw the country divided in two. Rebels named the New Forces tried to dislodge Gbagbo as president and occupied the northern half of the country, with Gbagbo controlling the south. Now renamed the Republican Forces, they are loyal to Ouattara. When Gbagbo came to power in 2000, the Sorbonne-educated history professor promised a new style of leadership and an end to personality cults. But now he appears desperate to cling to power. Gbagbo has made no statements or public appearances since the pro-Ouattara forces invaded Abidjan on Friday; his whereabouts aren't known. Control of state television station RTI has changed hands at least twice. Ouattara forces managed to stop state broadcasts Friday. A day later, however, Gbagbo forces regained control and a soldier and other military personnel called on the army to defend Gbagbo. In some ways, the short and hurried broadcast only underscored Gbagbo's desperation, and the fact that his top commanders and the army deserted. An unshaven announcer said Gbagbo remained at his residence. A scrolling announcement called on youths loyal to Gbagbo to blockade two bridges leading to the presidential palace. An advisor to Ouattara, who declined to be named, told the Associated Press that Ouattara's forces were at Gbagbo's palace, with a heavy battle for control expected overnight. He said Ouattara did not want to see Gbagbo killed in the fighting and that his forces had stopped shooting Friday night to enable Gbagbo to surrender. "He [Ouattara] said there has been too much blood," the advisor said. "Ouattara does not want for Gbagbo to die. But he also said that patience has a limit." U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Saturday called on Gbagbo to step down. "There has been too much bloodshed, including hundreds of civilians killed or wounded," he said in comments in Nairobi. "I renew my call on Mr. Gbagbo to step down to avoid further violence and transfer power immediately to the legitimate general candidate President Ouattara."[/release] [url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-ivory-coast-fighting-20110403,0,7912648.story[/url]
Wow, what the hell.
At first I thought one man killed 1000 people.
[QUOTE=Sir Colton;28958734]At first I thought one man killed 1000 people.[/QUOTE] thats becuase youre dumb
Where is Obama and the UN here, eh? Why only Libya? The government is killing its people in a dozen countries across the Middle East and Africa, yet the world refuses to do anything.
[QUOTE=The Mighty Boatman;28958768]thats becuase youre dumb[/QUOTE] well put
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct;28959121]Where is Obama and the UN here, eh? Why only Libya? The government is killing its people in a dozen countries across the Middle East and Africa, yet the world refuses to do anything.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Operation_in_C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire[/url] You're piss-stupid.
Africa does what Africa does best.
My great uncle died in a slimler event, they kill anybody they see even babies and innocent men. I want to know who is responsible for this.
[QUOTE=Frankie;28959957]My great uncle died in a slimler event, they kill anybody they see even babies and innocent men. I want to know who is responsible for this.[/QUOTE] More than likely its Gbagbo, but the situation is such a mess it's near impossible to point fingers at a single person
[QUOTE=Mikedestruct;28959121]Where is Obama and the UN here, eh? Why only Libya? The government is killing its people in a dozen countries across the Middle East and Africa, yet the world refuses to do anything.[/QUOTE] Most of Africa is a lost cause in my book. Also; [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Operation_in_C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire[/url] [editline]2nd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=CabooseRvB;28959320][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Operation_in_C%C3%B4te_d%27Ivoire[/url] You're piss-stupid.[/QUOTE] FFF ninja'd [editline]2nd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=booster;28959378]Africa does what Africa does best.[/QUOTE] This.
That's unfortunate..
happens
Why am I not surprised. Africa is a lost cause IMO, they should just stop bothering trying to stabilize it and just let them kill eachother.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;28960286]Why am I not surprised. Africa is a lost cause IMO, they should just stop bothering trying to stabilize it and just let them kill eachother.[/QUOTE] I can't believe I just read that. How dare you sir.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;28960286]Why am I not surprised. Africa is a lost cause IMO, they should just stop bothering trying to stabilize it and just let them kill eachother.[/QUOTE] Africa is fucked up mostly because of american and european exploitation.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;28960040]Most of Africa is a lost cause in my book.[/QUOTE] For the moment at least. I'm hoping for improvements in the next few decades.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;28960623]Africa is fucked up mostly because of american and european exploitation.[/QUOTE] Doesn't change the fact that it's fucked up and not worth investing time and money in.
Holy shit.
[QUOTE=niger;28960447]I can't believe I just read that. How dare you sir.[/QUOTE] Do you really goddamn believe that Africa can be stabilized? All those UN soldiers are dying there for a cause impossible to achieve. [QUOTE=Lambeth;28960623]Africa is fucked up mostly because of american and european exploitation.[/QUOTE] More of a reason to pull out and let them to solve their shit up
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;28961134] More of a reason to pull out and let them to solve their shit up[/QUOTE] Oh, we fucked up their social, economic, and political systems, causing years of civil wars and social strife. Lets just leave them to it because we're lazy fucktards with massive egos. Anybody not part of the "civilized" world should be left to their own devices because they're inferior to us in all ways.
Africa has been fucked since the creation of man, it will remain fucked, no amount of external aid can ever rid it of its fucknessity.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;28960623]Africa is fucked up mostly because of american and european exploitation.[/QUOTE] Of what? North Africa may have oil, but frankly the vast majority of the region can't get its shit together long enough for anyone to figure it out. The rest of the stuff seems to be mostly mineral deposits. Which aren't worth military or social intervention to obtain because they mine them anyways. [editline]3rd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;28961966]Africa has been fucked since the creation of man, it will remain fucked, no amount of external aid can ever rid it of its fucknessity.[/QUOTE] Africa has housed several great empires. Most notably, the Egyptians.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28962043]Africa has housed several great empires. Most notably, the Egyptians.[/QUOTE] Which Egyptians? The ones who originally built the pyramids of Giza that were eventually nuked, or the people who settled there way after the original civilization was destroyed?
[QUOTE=Otsegolation;28962196]Which Egyptians? The ones who originally built the pyramids of Giza that were eventually nuked, or the people who settled there way after the original civilization was destroyed?[/QUOTE] :downs:
[QUOTE=MeMassiveFag;28961966]Africa has been fucked since the creation of man, it will remain fucked, no amount of external aid can ever rid it of its fucknessity.[/QUOTE] Fitting name.
I say they (UN, US, China, whoever wants) should stabilize the Africa one by one, now focus on libya, then some neighbouring country, boost it up, then so on and so on. Not everyone at the same time. And then we get to Ivory Coast or place where the warlords tend to hang out, people would bomb the fuck out of them and then help the populace.
[QUOTE=Careld;28962498]I say they (UN, US, China, whoever wants) should stabilize the Africa one by one, now focus on libya, then some neighbouring country, boost it up, then so on and so on. Not everyone at the same time. And then we get to Ivory Coast or place where the warlords tend to hang out, people would bomb the fuck out of them and then help the populace.[/QUOTE] Yeah let's just invade them and build up their infrastructure and their inferior social and political structures. Oh wait we already did that. It's called imperialism.
[QUOTE=GunFox;28962043]Of what? North Africa may have oil, but frankly the vast majority of the region can't get its shit together long enough for anyone to figure it out. The rest of the stuff seems to be mostly mineral deposits. Which aren't worth military or social intervention to obtain because they mine them anyways.[/QUOTE] Uh slavery for one.
Let's totally ignore the great African empires pre-imperialism, shall we? Like, the kingdom of Mali, who's leader once gave out so much gold during his pilgrimage to Mecca, he destabilized the global economy for years? How about the state of Benin, whose culture was ruthlessly raped by decades of slave-trading? Can't forget Egypt either, nor Kush. And what about those Carthaginians, who very nearly managed to topple Rome as the premier power in the Western Mediterranean? Africa wasn't always a shithole.
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