Israeli hikers attacked by Palestinian, 1 murdered, 1 injured - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Palestinian terrorist shot two Israelis, killing one and injuring the second, near the West Bank settlement of Dolev on Friday afternoon, some six kilometers west of Ramallah. The pair decided to do a turn around after being told by a friend from nearby Dolev that a group of Palestinians were at the spring. As they approached Parsa Junction, a senior IDF source said, a Palestinian standing at the side of the road asked them to pull over. They complied, and the gunman asked them whether the "spring had water in it," the IDF source said. In the middle of their discussion, the man produced a handgun, and opened fire, striking both Israeli men with 9-milliliter rounds.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Two-critically-injured-in-West-Bank-shooting-406571"]http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Two-critically-injured-in-West-Bank-shooting-406571[/URL]

Why would you go hiking someplace where your country is holding under military occupation?

[QUOTE=Lamar;48005253]Why would you go hiking someplace where your country is holding under military occupation?[/QUOTE] Stupid of them to not ask for a military escort as recommended but usually the West bank is mostly safe for Israelis.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48005253]Why would you go hiking someplace where your country is holding under military occupation?[/QUOTE] "Why would you wear that dress?"

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48005582]"Why would you wear that dress?"[/QUOTE] Why do people even respond to his posts anymore? It's pretty clear he's just baiting everyone. Go look at his recently threads and take a look at what the content is.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;48005510]What? Yeah, it's not like Israel occupied it after getting invaded from literally every side and winning against their attackers. Pretty sure Russia hasn't given back Königsgrad/Kaliningrad to the Germans, either :)[/QUOTE] Palestine wasn't fighting against Israel alone, they were fighting against a US-backed Israel.

[QUOTE=TheLonelyDonu;48005709]Palestine wasn't fighting against Israel alone, they were fighting against a US-backed Israel.[/QUOTE] I don't see how that changes anything, and Palestine wasn't fighting against Israel alone either.

[QUOTE=TheLonelyDonu;48005709]Palestine wasn't fighting against Israel alone, they were fighting against a US-backed Israel.[/QUOTE] wat Palestine barely fought against Israel in the 1967 war. The only reason why Israel won the 6 day war was because of the preemptive strike that they carried out.

[QUOTE=TheLonelyDonu;48005709]Palestine wasn't fighting against Israel alone, they were fighting against a US-backed Israel.[/QUOTE] With their own backing from Egypt, Syria, and Jordan.

[QUOTE=PrusseLusken;48005510]What?[/QUOTE] Liquid bullets are the latest innovations.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48005582]"Why would you wear that dress?"[/QUOTE] Two totally different things, if you go hiking somewhere and know there is a threating element and you still go it is your fault. Yes it is tragic, but to ignore the fact they put themselves in that area the threat was operating is dumb. It would be like me deciding to go hiking in an area which America has waged war or has known enemies

[QUOTE=MR-X;48006850]Two totally different things, if you go hiking somewhere and know there is a threating element and you still go it is your fault.[/QUOTE] "If you go out somewhere and know that there are rapists there and you still go it is still your fault". Point is that the blame lies directly on the person who murdered or raped the victim. The victim is not at fault.

Leave it to Lamar.

According to [URL="http://www.maannews.com/Content.aspx?id=766055"]Palestinian news sources[/URL] Hamas claims responsibility for the attack. [QUOTE]Hamas military wing Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades reportedly claimed responsibility for Friday's West Bank shooting that left an Israeli man dead and another lightly injured. “One of the fighters ambushed a settler vehicle and shot at them from point-blank range after having observed the area continuously,” a statement released by the group said Friday, according to Hamas-affiliated news site the Palestinian Information Center. The group added that the attack “was part of an ongoing series of operations which started months ago in retaliation to occupation crimes," naming several Palestinian “martyrs” who have recently been killed by Israeli forces including Izz Addin Abu Gharra from Jenin and Abdullah Ghanayim Gneimat from Kafr Malik near Ramallah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lamar;48005253]Why would you go hiking someplace where your country is holding under military occupation?[/QUOTE] Victim blaming 101 with Prof. Lamar

[QUOTE=Timebomb575;48017963]Victim blaming 101 with Prof. Lamar[/QUOTE] If nazi german citizens were hiking in Occupied France and they were murdered then your sympathy would be with the hikers?

[QUOTE=Richoxen;48019100]If nazi german citizens were hiking in Occupied France and they were murdered then your sympathy would be with the hikers?[/QUOTE] are you fucking serious

[QUOTE=Richoxen;48019100]If nazi german citizens were hiking in Occupied France and they were murdered then your sympathy would be with the hikers?[/QUOTE] Yes, because citizens don't necessarily hold the opinions of their government.

[QUOTE=Psychokitten;48019120]are you fucking serious[/QUOTE] All I did was change the participants. Same situation. Are you serious? [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Starlight 456;48019428]Yes, because citizens don't necessarily hold the opinions of their government.[/QUOTE] If you hiked in iraq during the occupation and got shot everyone would call you an idiot.

[quote]They complied, and the gunman asked them whether the "spring had water in it," the IDF source said. In the middle of their discussion, the man produced a handgun, and opened fire, striking both Israeli men with [b]9-milliliter[/b] rounds.[/quote] That's just bad taste

Christ. I though Muslims were not supposed to ever fight on Ramadan. [QUOTE=Lamar;48005253]Why would you go hiking someplace where your country is holding under military occupation?[/QUOTE] Never understood this never blame the victim attitude. Obviously most of the fault lies with the person who actually shot them but they did put themselves in a dangerous situation.

[QUOTE=Richoxen;48019432]All I did was change the participants. Same situation. Are you serious? [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] If you hiked in iraq during the occupation and got shot everyone would call you an idiot.[/QUOTE] Actually, there are tons of major differences. Occupied Iraq had Shia and Sunni fighting against each other all the time with no one really capable of controlling them. The West Bank is administered by the Palestinian Authority. The PA fucking hates Israel but doesn't want terror attacks to happen in the West Bank because they don't want Israel to decide to annex it forcefully instead of just allowing settlements to be built. Occupied Iraq had essentially nobody in charge.

[QUOTE=Deng;48006944]"If you go out somewhere and know that there are rapists there and you still go it is still your fault". Point is that the blame lies directly on the person who murdered or raped the victim. The victim is not at fault.[/QUOTE] You know, we should be able to say something the victim did is dumb without being jumped on about victim blaming. If I went into a house of known rapist nude and got raped, It wouldn't be my fault but it unquestionably would have been a stupid and dangerous thing to do. It doesn't even imply the victim in someway brought it on or deserved it in any way, it's just saying the victim made a very poor decision.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48019521]Actually, there are tons of major differences. Occupied Iraq had Shia and Sunni fighting against each other all the time with no one really capable of controlling them. The West Bank is administered by the Palestinian Authority. The PA fucking hates Israel but doesn't want terror attacks to happen in the West Bank because they don't want Israel to decide to annex it forcefully instead of just allowing settlements to be built. Occupied Iraq had essentially nobody in charge.[/QUOTE] Palestine does have infighting. And Iraq was under the authority of the Coalition Provisional Authority. So it is pretty similar.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48019490] Never understood this never blame the victim attitude. Obviously most of the fault lies with the person who actually shot them but they did put themselves in a dangerous situation.[/QUOTE] You essentially just said the same thing he did. Them going and hiking there was dangerous and not smart at all. He never implied they deserved it or it was their fault.