Sweden Democrats hit 25.2% in opinion poll, making them the largest party. - Polidicks

[url]http://www.thelocal.se/20150820/swedens-nationalists-lead-polls-for-first-time[/url] [QUOTE]UPDATED: More people support Jimmie Åkesson’s Sweden Democrats than any other political group in Sweden, according to a new poll which puts the nationalists in the lead for the first time in history.[/QUOTE] I am honestly not very surprised at these numbers.

Good on them! The opinion Company usually places SD higher than any other so keep that in mind.

[QUOTE]Stina Moran, another political expert, said the survey suggested that other mainstream parties had not done enough to shape debates in Sweden about immigration, but argued it was extremely unlikely that the nationalists would win the next election in 2018.[/QUOTE] It looks like they don't have any seats but perhaps this will inspire the more mainstream parties to change their immigration policy. You really shouldn't be accepting refugees when you have a housing crisis and other mounting problems caused by these people.

The reason it's happening is because the hottest question in Sweden right now is the immigration question, and the Sweden Democrats is literally the only party that runs anti-immigration politics, so naturally they get lots of votes. Especially when we see what's going on in places like Rosengård, Husby, Tensta and other "no-go zones" of Sweden. They also gain a lot of sympathy from all the abuse they recieve by the extremist left. The other parties could have prevented this if only they took up an immigration policy similar to that of the Sweden Democrats.

Not surprised at all. A lot of people are starting to wake up to the fact that things doesn't exactly work the way that they've been told they do. Also worth mentioning is that SD is pretty much the only opposition the government has since the Moderates and their bloc-mates folded in December.

This is needed for the people and other politicians to wake up.

So will the other parties finally listen? Nah they'll just ignore all the problems mass immigration causes and blame this on racism.

[QUOTE=orgornot;48499996]So will the other parties finally listen? Nah they'll just ignore all the problems mass immigration causes and blame this on racism.[/QUOTE] Can't wait for people to assume this means 1 in 4 swedes are racist. Honestly at this point I want SD to win the 2018 election just so something can finally get done around here.

SD wants to adress a real problem for the wrong reasons, and their other policies are just pure right-wing populist bullshit. Sweden does need to slow down on the immigration, sort out its housing problems and ensure its citizens can get jobs, but I'm not buying SD's traditionalist borderline xenophobic view on the world. And this is why I hate party politics and defined ideologies. You shouldn't have to vote for one party to sort out one problem that matters, but get a heap of bullshit along with it. I would encourage any Swedish person in their right mind to avoid voting for SD and instead pressure the other parties into reviewing the immigration problem in a humane and rational way through other means.

[QUOTE=UnknownDude;48500052]but I'm not buying [B]their traditionalist borderline xenophobic view on the world.[/B][/QUOTE] Citation needed. [QUOTE=UnknownDude;48500052]I would encourage any Swedish person in their right mind to avoid voting for SD and instead pressure the other parties into reviewing the immigration problem in a humane and rational way through other means.[/QUOTE] We tried that. It didn't work. Nobody wants to talk about immigration because they're afraid of being labeled racist. And whaddya know, that's exactly what SD is being branded as. Racist. When that is not at all what their political program is endorsing.

[QUOTE=UnknownDude;48500052]SD wants to adress a real problem for the wrong reasons, and their other policies are just pure right-wing populist bullshit. Sweden does need to slow down on the immigration, sort out its housing problems and ensure its citizens can get jobs, but I'm not buying their traditionalist borderline xenophobic view on the world. And this is why I hate party politics and defined ideologies. you shouldn't have to vote for one party to sort out one problem that matters, but get a heap of bullshit along with it. I would encourage any Swedish person in their right mind to avoid voting for SD and instead pressure the other parties into reviewing the immigration problem in a humane and rational way through other means.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't vote for them, too authoritarian for my tastes, but I do believe their politics is something we need in government, a necessary evil of sorts.

As a question, what is Sweden's current immigration system and what do the Sweden Democrats propose?

Malmö is a shitstorm. Thats all we hear about over here. Can't say I'm not happy for you.

I find it somewhat bizarre that people are willing to vote for a party based solely on a single policy and ignoring everything else, but then I don't live in Sweden so I don't understand whatever might be going on there.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48500065]As a question, what is Sweden's current immigration system and what do the Sweden Democrats propose?[/QUOTE] It's current status is basically anyone from anywhere with or without a background is permitted to enter, live and work in the country until they're given permission to stay. If they don't get to stay, they get sent home. However, this is becoming increasingly rare and more people are getting to stay then are getting sent home. Combine this with a housing and work problem, and you've set yourself up for a disaster waiting to happen. That's why people want change. Something is wrong when [URL="http://www.scb.se/Pages/SSD/SSD_SelectVariables.aspx?id=340507&rxid=e36117ed-7b10-4498-bd5f-cb965c303fea&px_tableid=ssd_extern%3aUtlSvBakgTot"]15% of the population[/URL] is born abroad, and literally [URL="http://www.migrationsinfo.se/migration/sverige/"]hundreds of thousands more[/URL] are statistically likely to immigrate. in the coming years.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48500065]As a question, what is Sweden's current immigration system and what do the Sweden Democrats propose?[/QUOTE] No one knows. They talk a lot, but I don't think I've ever heard a concrete plan.

[QUOTE=Jamsponge;48500065]As a question, what is Sweden's current immigration system and what do the Sweden Democrats propose?[/QUOTE] We let anyone in pretty much but when they come here, we put them in asylums where they live with up to hundreds other immigrants that share 5 toilets for example. Not long ago I read that some small town put 400 asylum seekers in a hospital because there where nowhere else to put them. Isn't this were people would start thinking it's going to far? In my city, they recently decided that all new immigrants will be granted priority in queue for apartments even though it's very hard already for us who just finished school and started working to move away from home because there aren't any apartments to hire. Sweden Democrats wants to lower the amount of war refugees that come here by 90% and spend the money on helping them at home.

It's a shame no other party dares to bring up the issue SD are bringing up. It gives SD, a rather shit party with shit ideologies a lot of influence.

Though Id never vote for them, its good that they are stirring up the pot so to speak.

Same thing happened in Finland with the "True Finn" party, it's not the largest yet but people just don't want Finland to have immigration politics like Sweden.

I'm just gonna quote my post in a thread regarding the December Agreement that was created to prevent SD from gaining any influence: [QUOTE=Folstream;46804321]I see quite a few problems with this. Stefan Löfven promised that he would not govern an opposition budget, now apparently he will govern an opposition budget for 2015. This agreement will make it easier for minority governments to rule which may result in a more stable government but raises questions about the need to gain a majority in parliament to govern. It feels flawed from a democratic perspective since this will mean that the current government will only represent 37.9% of the population. The main opposition, the Alliance parties are in practice no longer an opposition since they refuse to drive their own policies. Since they won't vote against future government budgets they might as well be government parties only not part of the government and with no influence. This will be greatly exploited by the Sweden Democrats I imagine since this will further cement the idea that they are the only true opposition party. I predict that SD will skyrocket in upcoming opinion polls due to this, I mean they already went up a great deal after voting down the government budget.[/QUOTE] It seems that my analysis was correct. In total three polls have been presented today: YouGov at 25.2% largest party Sentio at 23.4% 2nd largest party (Social Democrats was just 0.1% larger) Inizio 20.8% 3rd largest party Considering an election result of 12.9% less than a year ago this is pretty crazy.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;48500143]It's a shame no other party dares to bring up the issue SD are bringing up. It gives SD, a rather shit party with shit ideologies a lot of influence.[/QUOTE] Indeed. I am thinking of voting for them in the future just so other parties can wake the fuck up, but at the same time I really, [I]really[/I] don't want them in power.

[QUOTE=DeEz;48500903]Indeed. I am thinking of voting for them in the future just so other parties can wake the fuck up, but at the same time I really, [I]really[/I] don't want them in power.[/QUOTE] jesus fucking christ dont vote for SD you genius.

[QUOTE=LeonS;48500924]jesus fucking christ dont vote for SD you genius.[/QUOTE] I am not, just humoring the idea.

[QUOTE=can man;48500070]Malmö is a shitstorm. Thats all we hear about over here. Can't say I'm not happy for you.[/QUOTE] Do I have to post my video depicting the horrors in Malmö again or what? Drive over the damn bridge and take a look for yourself. And no, you don't need a bulletproof vest.

ofc you dont need bulletproof vest those won't save you against grenades

Sweden's currently really testing out whether the Northern method of democracy works when you bring in issues and politics via immigration. It'll be interesting to see if it holds up.

[QUOTE=Swilly;48502874]Sweden's currently really testing out whether the Northern method of democracy works when you bring in issues and politics via immigration. It'll be interesting to see if it holds up.[/QUOTE] It was worked for decades. It is the the mass immigration of sometimes poorly educated refugees from very different cultures that are making people upset.

I was happy to see that my social democrat comrades won the elections there however it seems like SD's more likely to fix the issues caused by the mass immigration so good on them.

I will vote for SD in the next elections if there are still beggars outside of every store/station/landmark.