Newtown Residents Oppose Plan to Make Dec. 14 "Guns Save Lives Day" - Polidicks

[url]http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Newtown-Opposes-Plan-for-Guns-Save-Lives-Day-on-Dec-14-227451271.html[/url] [QUOTE]Stay out of Newtown! That’s the message many sent to a gun rights group on Friday after the Second Amendment Foundation said it plans to declare Dec. 14 “Guns Save Lives Day.” It's the anniversary of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School. ”As far as I’m concerned, this is nonsense,” said Linda Manna of Newtown, Conn., who said she could not believe the nonprofit's plan. “It’s very insensitive… very insensitive." Members of the Newtown Action Alliance agreed. “It’s despicable, it’s reprehensible,” said Alliance member Monte Frank. Frank said the day should be a time to remember the 20 children and six educators who were killed when Adam Lanza opened fire before turning the gun on himself. “It’s not the right day," Frank said. "It’s pretty distasteful." According to the Second Amendment Foundation, based in Washington state, Guns Save Lives Day aims to raise awareness of the benefits of the right to bear arms.[/QUOTE] [url]http://gunssavelivesday.com/[/url] [IMG]http://media.gunssavelivesday.com/media/picture/5256/31ca/2017/a87a/be00/00a6/gsld_Screen_Shot_2013-10-10_at_12.48.48_AM.png?1381380554[/IMG]

I'm all for gun rights, but some people really are just tactless and insensitive.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496294]I'd hate to be cynical, but if December 14th became "Insert something to the effect of; polar opposite of Guns Save Lives Day" I would think they would be much less bothered.[/QUOTE] fucking duh. someone shot a bunch of kids with, you know, a GUN. no shit they would be less bothered

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496294]I'd hate to be cynical, but if December 14th became "Insert something to the effect of; polar opposite of Guns Save Lives Day" I would think they would be much less bothered.[/QUOTE] It shouldn't be done either way though.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496381]Missing the point. To make a comparison; if someone's family member dies fighting in X war, that doesn't mean just because of the grief that their family cannot be supportive of the war effort that resulted in their death. Bottom line is; "It's okay to use the deaths of my family members as ammunition for a political effort, unless I am against said political effort."[/QUOTE] Because they're picking a day that someone went out and massacred a school to talk about how great guns are.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496381]"It's okay to use the deaths of my family members as ammunition for a political effort, unless I am against said political effort."[/QUOTE] why is this in any way wrong? [editline]12th October 2013[/editline] of fucking course someone is going to be offended if their family member's death is used to support a political cause that they find indecent.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42496398]It shouldn't be done either way though.[/QUOTE] there's nothing wrong with the families of people who were murdered using their loved one's legacy as a means of advancing what they feel would contribute to safety or prevention of murder. [editline]12th October 2013[/editline] i personally find profit to be a distasteful motivation, and find it distasteful if politicians exploit people who are grieving, but it's perfectly acceptable if the family does it of their own volition.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496471]I see no fault in being offended or using deaths to promote a political agenda, but objecting when someone else does the exact same thing is grade-A, USDA organic hypocrisy. Secondly, how can you justify their promotion of an anti-gun agenda because they feel it would stop murder, while at the same time condemning an effort that even in its name promotes the same end goal?[/QUOTE] because they are the family of the person who died. their advancement of a political agenda is touching and generally very genuine. when someone unrelated uses another person's family member to advance an agenda it is exploitation.

I propose we declare September 11 "Planes are a Great Method of Travel Day" It will share the day with the annual Towers Don't Fall Over That Much Festival

I've read Electric Retard comics that were more tasteful than this.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496670]I don't see how them being outside of a group somehow makes something exploitation? Is it not exploitation if someone within a family takes advantage of another family member when they're drunk?[/QUOTE] because the feelings of grief and mourning are very personal, having someone else using a situation that causes you emotional devastation for their own political gain is exploitive.

Last time I checked guns killed people.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;42496683]Last time I checked guns killed people.[/QUOTE] Lets not start this. Guns are just tools to kill people.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;42496683]Last time I checked guns killed people.[/QUOTE] guns don't kill people... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk[/media]

[QUOTE=Fort83;42496458]This is just dumb. Why do people make dumb days, I remember people made a chick fil a day.[/QUOTE] I shit you not, the biggest event of the year in my town is Mary Poppins Day.

[QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496381]Missing the point. To make a comparison; if someone's family member dies fighting in X war, that doesn't mean just because of the grief that their family cannot be supportive of the war effort that resulted in their death. Bottom line is; "It's okay to use the deaths of my family members as ammunition for a political effort, unless I am against said political effort."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496471]And some of them months before used the day to talk about how not great guns are and continued to for months on end. The motive element doesn't effect what's going on here, they're two sides of the same coin. I see no fault in being offended or using deaths to promote a political agenda, but objecting when someone else does the exact same thing is grade-A, USDA organic hypocrisy. Secondly, how can you justify their promotion of an anti-gun agenda because they feel it would stop murder, while at the same time condemning an effort that even in its name promotes the same end goal?[/QUOTE] It's not hypocrisy. There's a huge difference between "My family members were shot to death, please be more careful with guns" and "A bunch of kids were shot to death, guns save lives! Those kids would have been fine if they and / or their teachers had guns!" Using your war example, it's the difference between "Good friends and family members died in this meaningless war, let's stop the war!" and "A bunch of good people died in this war! Let's keep it going!" And your "while at the same time condemning an effort that even in its name promotes the same end goal" line is just so [I]smug[/I]. It's like saying "why would they want to stop the war while at the same time condemning an effort to ramp up and win the war, which promotes the same end goal?" It's completely ignoring the details. Hell, this situation is like if someone made a "Follow Teenagers In Your Neighborhood While Ready To Shoot Day!" on the anniversary of the Trayvon Martin incident. [editline]11th October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Vodkavia;42496670]Is it not exploitation if someone within a family takes advantage of another family member when they're drunk?[/QUOTE] And THIS is a completely different situation than what we're talking about.

The twisting of logic that justifies celebrating how guns save lives on a day which is marked by tragic deaths resulting from the use of guns is astounding. Its the ruthless bastardisation of what memory should be gained from the anniversary of the sandy hook massacre; rather than it be the mourning of lives lost they want to convert it into the celebration of lives saved, it just doesn't follow. At no point does the politics of firearms necessarily have to come into the mourning of the events, whether it be from both extremes. This is just ruthless insensitivity.

They should make it "Guns Have Been Known to do Many Things Day". Or just don't make a pro- or anti-gun holiday out of it because that's fucking stupid and really insensitive.

Back in August there was a "Starbucks Appreciation Day" planned to thank Starbucks for their rules about allowing open carry (for customers only) in their locations. [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1297941"]Of course there was a planned meetup for the Newtown location.[/URL] The Starbucks there closed early to prevent it. Also, I can't believe these people. I can't come up with an insult for them strong enough without getting permabanned on the spot.

Humans have to stop coming up with 'X' days. Including the UN. Its so fucking ridiculous now. We have the World happiness day, world 'insert disease/virus' day.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;42496569]I propose we declare September 11 "Planes are a Great Method of Travel Day" It will share the day with the annual Towers Don't Fall Over That Much Festival[/QUOTE] I don't know what's more funny your post or the fact that someone actually named "New Yorker" rated it dumb

Although I am in support of the idea...they picked the WRONG town to try and market it.

Personally I support "Guns Save Lives and and Take Lives Because They Are Tools That Lack Self-Awareness And Morality" day. But realtalk a "Guns Save Lives Day" in a town that had a school shooting is awful.

Forgot Sandy Hook even happened on my birthday :suicide: can't even imagine how people with birthdays on 9/11 feel

[QUOTE=C0linSSX;42497196]Forgot Sandy Hook even happened on my birthday :suicide: can't even imagine how people with birthdays on 9/11 feel[/QUOTE] Speaking personally, not that different :v: