Whites to become minority in Metro Vancouver by 2031 - Polidicks

[quote]The rate of immigration into Metro Vancouver will continue to be so rapid that, by 2031, only one out of four residents of the region will have grandparents who lived in Canada, the veteran social geographer writes in his research paper titled, A New Residential Order? “There is no European city with anything like this demographic structure, nor will there be in 2031,” writes Hiebert, who, as co-director of research and policy forum Metropolis B.C., has travelled the world studying immigration patterns. [/quote] [quote]“Question: What river separates China and India? “Answer: the Fraser River (which separates Richmond and Surrey).” [/quote] [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Whites+become+minority+Metro+Vancouver+2031/8175821/story.html]Dim Sum[/url] It's not that I'm against multiculturalism, it's that it's so badly assembled in Canada that shit like this can be allowed to happen where the east coast is essentially a ghost town and the west is crammed with people fresh off the boat who immediately start complaining that stop signs aren't in chinese. We're kinda fucked now. We can't regulate who can live where due to human rights violations and without them the real estate market will collapse, potentially starting a domino effect as seen with the sub-prime scandal in the US (except up here people have crazy lines of credit) which would royally FUCK everything.

Yup its a mess out there, kinda happy I live away from it all.

Good, one need fresh ideas and people from abroad to shake things up once in a while.

Vancouver as it is has no real personality, no real founded element of itself. This isn't a bad thing, it's just a result of a hodge podge of cultures trying to establish themselves. It's an immigrant based city, and this can get a bit frustrating for people who speak english and not any other language and I know it's frustrating for the immigrants to be hardly understood in their new home. It's a weird thing when you have immigrants from all over the world not able to communicate with other immigrants in a city because they share no common language. All I hope for is the city does something about the insane downtown living prices and rental prices and starts to get out of this horrible idea of suburban living in a tight urban space and we start getting enough highrises to make up for this. [editline]31st March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MIPS;40114778] It's not that I'm against multiculturalism, it's that it's so badly assembled in Canada that shit like this can be allowed to happen where the east coast is essentially a ghost town and the west is crammed with people fresh off the boat who immediately start complaining that stop signs aren't in chinese. We're kinda fucked now. We can't regulate who can live where due to human rights violations and without them the real estate market will collapse, potentially starting a domino effect as seen with the sub-prime scandal in the US (except up here people have crazy lines of credit) which would royally FUCK everything.[/QUOTE] a huge problem in vancouver is extremely rich, children essentially, let loose on the city by rich foreign parents. This is a REALLY common thing down here. They have the apartments and the property and they aren't contributing a whole lot to the city from what I can tell. I could be very wrong but idk

In BC everyone is a minority.

One-sided racism, unequal equality and anti-racist racists. Let the joy begin.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40114875]Vancouver as it is has no real personality, no real founded element of itself. This isn't a bad thing, it's just a result of a hodge podge of cultures trying to establish themselves. It's an immigrant based city, and this can get a bit frustrating for people who speak english and not any other language and I know it's frustrating for the immigrants to be hardly understood in their new home. It's a weird thing when you have immigrants from all over the world not able to communicate with other immigrants in a city because they share no common language. All I hope for is the city does something about the insane downtown living prices and rental prices and starts to get out of this horrible idea of suburban living in a tight urban space and we start getting enough highrises to make up for this. [editline]31st March 2013[/editline] a huge problem in vancouver is extremely rich, children essentially, let loose on the city by rich foreign parents. This is a REALLY common thing down here. They have the apartments and the property and they aren't contributing a whole lot to the city from what I can tell. I could be very wrong but idk[/QUOTE] they aren't contributing to the city? they buy food, clothes, and pay for rent. if they don't work in the city, and their foreign parents are paying for everything, it's free foreign money for the city which is a pretty good thing generally. i mean a lot of places try very hard to attract foreign money.

It should really be mandatory to know a country's language before you're allowed to move there. [QUOTE=The golden;40114809]Iranian cooking smells terrible.[/QUOTE] I used to live near Filipino Immigrants. Everything they cooked smelled completely awful.

[QUOTE=Chekko;40114917]One-sided racism, unequal equality and anti-racist racists. Let the joy begin.[/QUOTE] go back to stormfront or kkk.com plz [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40114925]It should really be mandatory to know a country's language before you're allowed to move there.[/QUOTE] does canada have an official language in the first place? i know the usa doesn't.

[quote]I could be very wrong but idk [/quote] There was that report earlier in the month that noted that up to 25% of all condos in the downtown core are owned but not occupied by permanent residents and how it was skewing the local economy. I could care less about lambo races in afternoon Trans-canada highway traffic. It's actually kinda awesome. It's that in the second largest country in the world they won't fucking move more than an hour away from the pacific ocean. [quote]it's free foreign money for the city which is a pretty good thing generally.[/quote] For groceries, education and the likes, yeah. However when you have parents who dump massive amounts of cash into a home they won't even live in it BADLY fucks up the real estate market to the point that for everyone else you have to dedicate up to 80% of your annual income to live in the city. I knew way too many people in good jobs who struggled because even with a $60k salary they were living out of a small apartment with no chance of getting a home. If you don't inherit a home, you're essentially forced to leave vancouver because otherwise you feel really fucking miserable.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114932]go back to stormfront or kkk.com plz [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] does canada have an official language in the first place? i know the usa doesn't.[/QUOTE] We don't, which is really stupid. If people want to live here, they should at least know english. It'd make things so much easier. [B]Edit:[/B] How is this dumb? If any of you had any experience with this, you know how bad it is when people who live in your country don't speak your language, or they don't even try to learn it and expect everyone to know their language. Having them learn the language relating to that country, only makes things better for both parties.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114932]go back to stormfront or kkk.com plz[/QUOTE] Because I want real equality? Way to miss my point, buddy.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40114829]Good, we need fresh ideas and people from abroad to shake things up once in a while.[/QUOTE] Don't worry, I'm sure someone from the ASF will make sure that doesn't happen.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114922]they aren't contributing to the city? they buy food, clothes, and pay for rent. if they don't work in the city, and their foreign parents are paying for everything, it's free foreign money for the city which is a pretty good thing generally. i mean a lot of places try very hard to attract foreign money.[/QUOTE] yes but for people who are born in the city to be more or less forced out be foreign interests is less than ideal.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;40114829]Good, we need fresh ideas and people from abroad to shake things up once in a while.[/QUOTE] What do you mean "we"? You don't live in Vancouver.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114932] does canada have an official language in the first place? i know the usa doesn't.[/QUOTE] we have english and french as official languages. you must be able to converse in these languages with government officials

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40114951]yes but for people who are born in the city to be more or less forced out be foreign interests is less than ideal.[/QUOTE] How are people forced out of the cities?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114932]go back to stormfront or kkk.com plz [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] does canada have an official language in the first place? i know the usa doesn't.[/QUOTE] Canada's official languages are English and French. It's mandatory to take some sort of French class in school too, because Quebec [QUOTE=DaCommie1;40114953]What do you mean "we"? You don't live in Vancouver.[/QUOTE] Vancouver sucks to be honest, it's nothing but jewelry and clothing shops. We're starved for jobs here, and education is absurdly expensive. Pretty much just stagnating.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;40114942]We don't, which is really stupid. If people want to live here, they should atleast know english. It'd make things so much easier.[/QUOTE] then the only people allowed to come to canada would be those who have the relative affluence to have gotten an english education. [QUOTE=Chekko;40114943]Because I want real equality? Way to miss my point, buddy.[/QUOTE] all three of the things you said are generally said by the white supremacist types. do you want to elaborate on what you mean by unequal equality or w/e then?

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[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40114951]yes but for people who are born in the city to be more or less forced out be foreign interests is less than ideal.[/QUOTE] well then you need to refine your definition of "contribution" and shit. i agree that locals(especially poor locals) being forced out by waves of affluent citizens is incredibly bad. but that doesn't mean it isn't "good" for the local economy.

[QUOTE=Valnar;40114962]How are people forced out of the cities?[/QUOTE] Living downtown is incredibly scarce, it's incredibly expensive, exorbitantly so, this is artificially inflated pricing to get more money out of the rich foreign interests that love to live in this city. This has been a process going on since 1986 with the Vancouver Expo which caused a serious tourism bubble leading into a immigration effect that we're currently dealing with. Saying forced out of the city is a bad way to put it and i'll be the first to admit that, but it's hard to afford living under artificially inflated prices, but still having to work in the city. there's also many foreign and rich students who attend UBC and occupy downtown apartments in the process, but don't stay here past their schooling time, totally their right to do so, but quite frustrating for non rich people.

[QUOTE=Chekko;40114917]One-sided racism, unequal equality and anti-racist racists. Let the joy begin.[/QUOTE] [img]http://s14.postimg.org/4auaioqrl/1363843753020.jpg[/img]

i mean you can look at it from an economic standpoint or from a "right vs. wrong" standpoint, idk if you can really do both. [editline]1st April 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Episode;40114996][img]http://s14.postimg.org/4auaioqrl/1363843753020.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] lol this is ignoring that white pride means the oppression of other races

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114983]well then you need to refine your definition of "contribution" and shit. i agree that locals(especially poor locals) being forced out by waves of affluent citizens is incredibly bad. but that doesn't mean it isn't "good" for the local economy.[/QUOTE] it primarily isn't good for locals because locals aren't getting cuts of this foreign influx of cash, a lot of this money flows through the real estate and rental housing management fields and it stays in a lot of those areas without a whole lot of effect for the rest of us. It's also a political problem because no politician wants to lose out on this money, and there's some conflicts of interest here in my opinion [editline]31st March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;40114998] lol this is ignoring that white pride means the oppression of other races[/QUOTE] simply playing devils advocate here, why is that a defining characteristic of white pride only? isn't all racial pride for the benefit of that particular race, and not others?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114932] does canada have an official language in the first place? i know the usa doesn't.[/QUOTE] I know the french part speaks french

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114998] lol this is ignoring that white pride means the oppression of other races[/QUOTE] The phrase "white pride" is not inherently racist, just the fact is almost every person who's used it has been.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;40115010]simply playing devils advocate here, why is that a defining characteristic of white pride only? isn't all racial pride for the benefit of that particular race, and not others?[/QUOTE] all other "prides" have come about as a resistance to white pride. i don't see the point in being "proud" of your skin color, race, or heritage since you had no control over those things. however, it's absolutely ignorant to say that white pride can be equated with black pride in any way when black pride arose in an environment where whites were oppressing them. it was turning yourself from being depressed and disenfranchised, to empowered and angry.

[QUOTE=applemaster;40114913]In BC everyone is a minority.[/QUOTE] Not really, in my area there's a lot more Korean and Chinese than euros/whites Same when I was going to school, 95% of the school was Asian and the other 5% were a mix of european/middle eastern. There's nothing really that wrong with it, but a lot of kids had to have ESL classes (English as a Second Language) and there were quite a few that didn't speak English at all (moreso in elementary, less so in high school but there were still a few).

[QUOTE=yawmwen;40114970]then the only people allowed to come to canada would be those who have the relative affluence to have gotten an english education.[/QUOTE] Well that sucks for them then. I don't go to china, or any other country and then bitch at them, and expect them to pander/change everything for me because I haven't bothered to learn their language.