• Revolutionary Scuba Mask Creates Breathable Oxygen Underwater On Its Own [not real gå home]
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[img]http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news-700/Spotlight-Odd-Looking-Scuba-Mask-Turns-You-Into-a-Fish.jpg?1389646266[/img] [quote]With the Triton Oxygen Respirator, it might be possible to breathe beneath the surface of the water as if you were a fish. Requiring no bulky tank to keep your lungs pumping properly, this invention of scuba diving equipment is much more ergonomic and organic in design. The regulator comprises a plastic mouthpiece that requires you to simply bite down. There are two arms that branch out to the sides of the scuba mask that have been developed to function like the efficient gills of a marine creature. The scaly texture conceals small holes in the material where water is sucked into Jeabyun Yeon’s Triton. Chambers inside separate the oxygen and release the liquid so that you can breath comfortably in the ocean.[/quote] [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] Source: [url]http://themindunleashed.org/2014/01/revolutionary-scuba-mask-creates-breathable-oxygen-underwater.html[/url]
I'll take 10
i swear to fuck this is almost identical to the star wars episode 1 respirators jedi use
finally i can return to my people
Reminds me of Star Wars Episode 1 when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan swam underwater to the Gungan city using those weird breathing masks. [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43553998]i swear to fuck this is almost identical to the star wars episode 1 respirators jedi use[/QUOTE]god DAMNIT
Sweet, now i just need a mutation to allow me to breathe underwater without these.
Starting at $999.99! (Price may increase in the future)
Oh man this is straight out like a sci-fi writer's lazy plot device bag.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43553998]i swear to fuck this is almost identical to the star wars episode 1 respirators jedi use[/QUOTE] I believe they called it a "re-breather". And yeah, that's the first thing I thought of, too. This'll probably be great out in the islands for vacationers looking to do some diving, I think, once it becomes commercially available.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43553998]i swear to fuck this is almost identical to the star wars episode 1 respirators jedi use[/QUOTE] which were a direct rip off of the one James bond used in Thunderball!
[img]http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2014/01/03/triton3.jpg[/img] That battery is going to be an issue. Wonder how long it lasts. If the cost is like $200 for one it'd be cool, but I think its going to be really expensive for right now
sorry guys [url]http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/triton-not-dive-or-dive-not-there-is-no-triton/[/url] [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] long story short of the science "Therefore, to supply you with oxygen at normal resting breathing rates, the Triton would need to filter 15 x 6L = 90L per minute, or about 24 gallons. [B]For scale, 25 gallons a minute is about as much as a 1/4 horsepower sump pump pushes out, depending on static head.[/B] Without any kind of pump in the Triton to move water through the device, it relies on swimming (and presumably breathe suction?) to create the flow of water. There’s too many variables in that, but let’s just say you’d certainly have to swim so fast to supply the needs of 15bpm that you wouldn’t be breathing 15bpm anymore."
my understanding of how this works is sorely lacking, I mean they claim it works like gills but fish gills only work because the red blood cells are small enough to exchange the gas from the liquid, but more importantly we dont use oxygen really that efficient underwater, is there even enough oxygen dissolved in water normally to use this, and if so wouldn't it be extremely dangerous to just assume there is enough oxygen dissolved in the water when so many factors can affect that such as local marine life and algee blooms can quickly depleet that oxygen
Isn't is harmful to breathe in pure oxygen though, and wouldn't the salt fuck up the filters?
also that assumes the device is able to remove 100% of the oxygen from the water a more realistic estimate is somewhere in the range of 35ish gallons per minute, cycled by a tiny pump not happening [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] rip merge
ah so I was right [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] now see I'm reading my textbook on persicely this topic, engineers overusing ideal models vs real world models and how that can be a bad thing
[QUOTE=Sableye;43554094]ah so I was right [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] now see I'm reading my textbook on persicely this topic, engineers overusing ideal models vs real world models and how that can be a bad thing[/QUOTE] this isn't even an engineer thing this is just some designer going "woah wouldn't this be cool" notice how minimal the actual scientific explanation is, and how it's replaced by attractive scuba divers holding them
- [quote] The micro compressor operates through micro battery. - The micro battery is a next-generation technology with a size 30 times smaller than current battery that can quickly charge 1,000 times faster.” – Yanko Design[/quote] ya I just read through the article, this is the real problem though besides the compressor, equipment for diving doesn't use the newest most sophisticated technology, it uses the most proven well tested design. NASA only started using Li batteries on spacecraft recently after years of extensive tests [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] because those components cannot fail
also if I recall correctly I think pure oxygen in deep sea becomes toxic or something
[QUOTE=Bumgall;43554084]Isn't is harmful to breathe in pure oxygen though, and wouldn't the salt fuck up the filters?[/QUOTE] Pure oxygen is fine in short bursts but over prolonged periods of time, it can cause brain, lung, and cell damage as well as the chance to cause seizures abd complete retinal detachments (going blind) in underwater divers due to partial pressures, . It's mostly discussed in diving circles as "Oxygen toxicity" basically meaning that the gases that you use in your tanks when you are diving at a depth greater then about 135~ feet have to be a certain mix of substances to counter-balance the amount of oxygen in the tanks to avoid getting what's called Hyperoxia, an excess of oxygen in body tissues which causes a whole host of other issues. [QUOTE=heathendevil;43554198]also if I recall correctly I think pure oxygen in deep sea becomes toxic or something[/QUOTE] Pure oxygen becomes toxic as you descend in depth as pressure increases. This is in part due to increased partial pressure(s) of the O2 gas you're breathing in. It's also why gas mixtures such as Trimix and Heliox exist to counter-balance the amount of oxygen that you intake so that things like this [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukvbjQRnXNM[/media] don't happen to you. Though this guy was most likely not using pure oxygen (he was an instructor in the field of technical diving at 100 meters depth or so I think), this sort of thing can also happen if you're using too much oxygen.
Nanosuit respirator? :O
[QUOTE=Gazpacho;43554019]Starting at $999.99! (Price may increase in the future)[/QUOTE] even if this was real that's not even expensive considering a normal scuba set costs a couple of thousand for a good one
If you went to any depth with this for an extended period of time you'd suffer from oxygen toxicity and die. This toy could be used in a pool probably, though.
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;43554061]sorry guys [url]http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/triton-not-dive-or-dive-not-there-is-no-triton/[/url] [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] long story short of the science "Therefore, to supply you with oxygen at normal resting breathing rates, the Triton would need to filter 15 x 6L = 90L per minute, or about 24 gallons. [B]For scale, 25 gallons a minute is about as much as a 1/4 horsepower sump pump pushes out, depending on static head.[/B] Without any kind of pump in the Triton to move water through the device, it relies on swimming (and presumably breathe suction?) to create the flow of water. There’s too many variables in that, but let’s just say you’d certainly have to swim so fast to supply the needs of 15bpm that you wouldn’t be breathing 15bpm anymore."[/QUOTE] DSN is a great site/news blog ran by marine scientists, mostly with Ph.D's in their field. Great place to check out ocean related stuff before thinking it will be awesome because they'll tell you why it is not. Such great's as: Fukushima: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the-best-scientifically-verified-information-on-fukushima-impacts/[/url] Why this kids plan to remove plastic from the ocean won't work: [url]http://deepseanews.com/2013/09/revisiting-the-ocean-cleanup-a-plan-to-remove-plastic-from-the-oceans/[/url] This site is also great, and the two collaborate and are best friends: [url]http://www.southernfriedscience.com/[/url] [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] So next time you hear about a bunch of fish/dolphins dying for no reason, or chemical X, Y, Z being dumped at sea, or some really cool sounding plan that's going to save the oceans/revolutionize something. Check these guys out first, because they'll give you answers.
[QUOTE=Gazpacho;43554019]Starting at $999.99! (Price may increase in the future)[/QUOTE] That's small potatoes compared to what many technical divers pay technical diving pretty cool if that money in your pocket is weighing you down too much
Actually the doctor:undergrad ratio is about 50:50, depending on the guest writers. [editline]15th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=JayFeather1337;43554598]That's small potatoes compared to what many technical divers pay technical diving pretty cool if that money in your pocket is weighing you down too much[/QUOTE] If it's storing compressed oxygen a technical diver would most certainly not get to his work site before being dead.
Reminds me of those weird oxygen mask things they had in Star Wars Ep. I
[QUOTE=LordCrypto;43554121]this isn't even an engineer thing this is just some designer going "woah wouldn't this be cool" notice how minimal the actual scientific explanation is, and how it's replaced by attractive scuba divers holding them[/QUOTE] Yeah man, it even says it in the first damn word in the article: [QUOTE][B][U]Designer[/U][/B] Jeabyun Yeon has created something great. [/QUOTE] This isn't even news. It's just another one of those "does not understand science" designers.
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