Trump Lawyers Clash Over How Much to Cooperate With Russia Inquiry - Polidicks

[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/17/us/politics/trump-lawyers-white-house-russia-mcgahn-ty-cobb.html[/url] [quote]President Trump’s legal team is wrestling with how much to cooperate with the special counsel looking into Russian election interference, an internal debate that led to an angry confrontation last week between two White House lawyers and that could shape the course of the investigation. At the heart of the clash is an issue that has challenged multiple presidents during high-stakes Washington investigations: how to handle the demands of investigators without surrendering the institutional prerogatives of the office of the presidency. Similar conflicts during the Watergate and Monica S. Lewinsky scandals resulted in court rulings that limited a president’s right to confidentiality. The debate in Mr. Trump’s West Wing has pitted Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, against Ty Cobb, a lawyer brought in to manage the response to the investigation. Mr. Cobb has argued for turning over as many of the emails and documents requested by the special counsel as possible in hopes of quickly ending the investigation — or at least its focus on Mr. Trump.[/quote] Lmao check this out - part of the way this story came out was that two of Trump's lawyers went for a meal at a restaurant next door to the New York Times and ended up sitting one table over from a Times investigative reporter who listened to them ranting about it [quote]The friction escalated in recent days after Mr. Cobb was overheard by a reporter for The New York Times discussing the dispute during a lunchtime conversation at a popular Washington steakhouse. Mr. Cobb was heard talking about a White House lawyer he deemed “a McGahn spy” and saying Mr. McGahn had “a couple documents locked in a safe” that he seemed to suggest he wanted access to. He also mentioned a colleague whom he blamed for “some of these earlier leaks,” and who he said “tried to push Jared out,” meaning Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, who has been a previous source of dispute for the legal team. Continue reading the main story After The Times contacted the White House about the situation, Mr. McGahn privately erupted at Mr. Cobb, according to people informed about the confrontation who asked not to be named describing internal matters. John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, sharply reprimanded Mr. Cobb for his indiscretion, the people said.[/quote] Whole article about the restaurant incident [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/09/18/trump-lawyers-spill-beans-after-terrible-restaurant-choice-next-to-nyt/[/url] [quote]Sitting at the next table, according to the Times, was Kenneth Vogel, one of Washington’s most skillful investigative reporters. Vogel is a former reporter for Politico, which is based in Virginia, who arrived at the Times just in time for the Russia investigation and, as it turned out, just in time for lunch.[/quote] Also note this is the same Ty Cobb who just a couple of weeks ago [url=http://uk.businessinsider.com/ty-cobb-emails-prankster-drone-reporter-2017-9]got tricked into emailing a random dude claiming to be admin official Dan Scavino[/url] with the email address dan.scavinojr@emailprankster.co.uk

Well if he was innocent wouldn't they cooperate entirely?

Hmm HMMMMMMMMMMMM [editline]18th September 2017[/editline] How fucking stupid do you have to be as a lawyer to A.) Discuss sensitive shit like this in public and B.) Discuss this in a public place that's ONE DOOR DOWN FROM A MAJOR NEWSPAPER Holy fuck

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;52693482] How fucking stupid do you have to be as a lawyer to A.) Discuss sensitive shit like this in public and B.) Discuss this in a public place that's ONE DOOR DOWN FROM A MAJOR NEWSPAPER [/QUOTE] It's terrifying how much the Trump Administration (or any equivalent of it) would be getting away with everything if they were competent, just because conservatives wanted a Republican in office no matter the cost.

[QUOTE=BlindSniper17;52693534]It's terrifying how much the Trump Administration (or any equivalent of it) would be getting away with everything if they were competent, just because conservatives wanted a Republican in office no matter the cost.[/QUOTE] Thank god they're a bunch of syphilitic chimps with concussions, then. It's like what would happen if Hitler were assassinated: a more competent successor would have taken the reins of the Reich and destroyed us all. Let's just hope that the next chap (or lass) on the throne has the right blend of competence and proper ethics. And maybe my arse will grow wings and fly me into space.

[QUOTE=ironman17;52693594]Thank god they're a bunch of syphilitic chimps with concussions, then. It's like what would happen if Hitler were assassinated: a more competent successor would have taken the reins of the Reich and destroyed us all. Let's just hope that the next chap (or lass) on the throne has the right blend of competence and proper ethics. And maybe my arse will grow wings and fly me into space.[/QUOTE] If the allegations that we've seen levied so far are even close to being true, I think the American people are being setup for a very uncomfortable next few years. We are not going to have a decent fellow step in, neither major party is prepared to do the right thing and put the needs of the American people first. The Republicans are complicit in this as a party and cannot be trusted to hold office. (Some might recall the leaked conversation where Ryan joked about Trump and a senator being corrupt. Could the American Right collapse?) The Democrats are as pro-corporate/anti-progressive as the Republicans were twenty years ago. Third parties are at present still powerless, and often seem to be just as corrupt as the main two. Can anyone suggest a best-case scenario? Things look pretty bleak here in Kansas.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;52693652]If the allegations that we've seen levied so far are even close to being true, I think the American people are being setup for a very uncomfortable next few years. We are not going to have a decent fellow step in, neither major party is prepared to do the right thing and put the needs of the American people first. The Republicans are complicit in this as a party and cannot be trusted to hold office. (Some might recall the leaked conversation where Ryan joked about Trump and a senator being corrupt. Could the American Right collapse?) The Democrats are as pro-corporate/anti-progressive as the Republicans were twenty years ago. Third parties are at present still powerless, and often seem to be just as corrupt as the main two. Can anyone suggest a best-case scenario? Things look pretty bleak here in Kansas.[/QUOTE] America stops using FPTP in elections. I mean it won't happen, but that is the best case scenario.

[QUOTE=Itachi_Crow;52693482]How fucking stupid do you have to be as a lawyer to[...] A.) Discuss sensitive shit like this in public and B.) Discuss this in a public place that's ONE DOOR DOWN FROM A MAJOR NEWSPAPER[/QUOTE] If I may offer a C? C) Intentionally leak information to the press in a way that attempts to avoid disbarment when you find your client so reprehensible that you'd rather they go down than you continue representing them? This reeks of either an attempt at plausible deniability ('how was I supposed to know there was a reporter literally feet away from us') or manipulation ('BOY I sure hope THE MEDIA doesn't report on [fake story that we're manufacturing]')

[QUOTE=Aredbomb;52693728]America stops using FPTP in elections. I mean it won't happen, but that is the best case scenario.[/QUOTE] We need to force it through, use their own dirty tactics against them.

[QUOTE=Firgof Umbra;52693765]If I may offer a C? C) Intentionally leak information to the press in a way that attempts to avoid disbarment when you find your client so reprehensible that you'd rather they go down than you continue representing them? This reeks of either an attempt at plausible deniability ('how was I supposed to know there was a reporter literally feet away from us') or manipulation ('BOY I sure hope THE MEDIA doesn't report on [fake story that we're manufacturing]')[/QUOTE] Given the average level of intelligence of our current administration, I would opt for Occam's razor and say the lawyers are just idiots.