Dutch charity project 3FM Serious Request raises €12.380.438 (€12.3+ million) to help victims of sex - Polidicks

[img]http://marlamin.com/u/w550.be92c_745e62de6f609c866da0e0a5acb52752.jpg[/img] After being locked in a glass house for 6 days (144 hours) without food (but 4 smoothies a day) playing paid requests by the public on Dutch national radio, the 3 DJs (Gerard, Coen & Domien) exited the glass house today. The project raised more than [b][u]12.3 million euros[/u][/b] (and counting!) helping victims of sexual abuse in conflict zones through the Red Cross. Other similar events were held in other countries such as Sweden, Portugal, Latvia and Switzerland. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serious_Request]Wikipedia[/url] [url=http://seriousrequest.3fm.nl/]Dutch source[/url] [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1338297]2013 thread on FP[/url] [url=http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1235044]2012 thread on FP[/url]

Can't wait to see how a big part of that money is thoughtfully 'laundered' by the Red Cross to the wealthy owners/founders/CEO's/whatever through expenses left and right. The Red Cross isn't 100% transparent. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] Actually everybody sane knows that.

[QUOTE=blah2;46788180]Can't wait to see how a big part of that money is thoughtfully 'laundered' by the Red Cross to the wealthy owners/founders/CEO's/whatever through expenses left and right. The Red Cross isn't 100% transparent. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] Actually everybody sane knows that.[/QUOTE] First fucking post. Could we not have happiness for a bit before we get onto that? Good on them for raising money for such a prevalent but obscure cause.

[QUOTE=007JamesBond007;46788257]First fucking post. Could we not have happiness for a bit before we get onto that? Good on them for raising money for such a prevalent but obscure cause.[/QUOTE] Problem is we want happy feels over something that in the end is rather dark and scummy.

[QUOTE=007JamesBond007;46788257]First fucking post. Could we not have happiness for a bit before we get onto that? Good on them for raising money for such a prevalent but obscure cause.[/QUOTE] Yes but it being so obscure you can imagine what will happen. The idea behind it is of course great, and makes you happy. But the Red Cross with this much money? Eh.

I meant that sexual abuse in these situations is widespread but never really covered, hence "obscure"

Isn't the title "Hands off our Girls" sort of sexist in that it ignores that such abuse happens to young boys and young men in conflict zones too?

[QUOTE=Riutet;46789131]Isn't the title "Hands off our Girls" sort of sexist in that it ignores that such abuse happens to young boys and young men in conflict zones too?[/QUOTE] I obviously have no statistics to back up my opinion, but I have a gut feeling that males just get shot, instead of being massively sexually abused. Depends on the 'conflict zone' in question though, obviously.

Fighting symptoms of a conflict instead of the conflict itself, genius!

[QUOTE=PatrickT;46789156]Fighting symptoms of a conflict instead of the conflict itself, genius![/QUOTE] Ending a conflict is a much harder proposal than minimising the effects of a conflict. Chances are we're probably talking about some backwards ass ideological conflict in some backwater Middle Eastern or African country where once you eliminate the belligerent force, turns out there's actually much more of them huddled together in the mountains somewhere just waiting until you leave so they can come back with reinforced numbers and carry on what they were doing before you rudely interrupted. Short of occupying these places forever and slowly integrating them into the first world without any hint of old colonialism, or going on what would probably be a century long crusade against ideological and opportunistic fighters, fighting it isn't gonna change much. Aid is easy and the effects of it are less ambiguous. Not that I oppose a form of benevolent imperialism, just I don't expect it to happen.

[QUOTE=Riutet;46789131]Isn't the title "Hands off our Girls" sort of sexist in that it ignores that such abuse happens to young boys and young men in conflict zones too?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=nikomo;46789146]I obviously have no statistics to back up my opinion, but I have a gut feeling that males just get shot, instead of being massively sexually abused. Depends on the 'conflict zone' in question though, obviously.[/QUOTE] it's mainly that sexual assault against women occurs in (generally speaking) widespread systematic means during conflict. it doesn't really depend on the conflict, it's extremely common. some perceive it as opportunistic soldiers some perceive it as an actual tactic used to instill fear in civilians, depends on your perspective and on the conflict. men are sexually assaulted during wartime, but not as often as women are. The other fundamental component is that men that are sexually assaulted in conflict are [I]generally[/I] combatants, and the ICRC deals specifically [B]only[/B] with civilians, which has netted them (obviously) an extreme amount of criticism. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] sexual violence does occur against men as well and it's just as brutal (if not more so in certain instances) - often times when pow's in the former yugoslavia were captured, they'd be forced to bite off each others genitals in front of their families. anyone who looked away would be shot

[QUOTE=nikomo;46789146]I obviously have no statistics to back up my opinion, but I have a gut feeling that males just get shot, instead of being massively sexually abused. Depends on the 'conflict zone' in question though, obviously.[/QUOTE] That you say "depends on the conflict zone in question", you are right there. Not every conflict zone is the same and I can't at all speak on current ones as I don't keep up to date on the literature on them. I can only speak of what I've read about from the past and use that as precedent that it may not be as much a female exclusive problem as some might believe. For example if we take a look at this survey published by [url=http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=186342]JAMA[/url] that examines conflict related sexual violence in the Congo, we can see numbers that seem to suggest that approximately 1/3rd of victims are men while 2/3rd are women. I'd implore you to read the survey yourself though both to ascertain whether you think the methodology and results are valid and to go into further detail on what I have only touched upon extremely briefly. Obviously women and girls are most likely always in the majority when it comes to sexual violence in conflict zones, but I don't think it's wise to pretend that men and boys occupy some sort of insignificant enough minority that it can be pretended to be a female problem and not just a problem that everyone faces.

[QUOTE=Riutet;46789393]That you say "depends on the conflict zone in question", you are right there. Not every conflict zone is the same and I can't at all speak on current ones as I don't keep up to date on the literature on them. I can only speak of what I've read about from the past and use that as precedent that it may not be as much a female exclusive problem as some might believe. For example if we take a look at this survey published by [url=http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=186342]JAMA[/url] that examines conflict related sexual violence in the Congo, we can see numbers that seem to suggest that approximately 1/3rd of victims are men while 2/3rd are women. I'd implore you to read the survey yourself though both to ascertain whether you think the methodology and results are valid and to go into further detail on what I have only touched upon extremely briefly. Obviously women and girls are most likely always in the majority when it comes to sexual violence in conflict zones, but I don't think it's wise to pretend that men and boys occupy some sort of insignificant enough minority that it can be pretended to be a female problem and not just a problem that everyone faces.[/QUOTE] The men would go to the same help centers/doctors/shrinks as the woman would. Problem is getting them to come forward as both men and women generally get disowned after getting raped or abused. [QUOTE=PatrickT;46789156]Fighting symptoms of a conflict instead of the conflict itself, genius![/QUOTE] If you have any ideas that actually end the conflict, I'm sure the Red Cross would be all ears. They are doing all they can by instructing generals and the local army (who generally are the abusers) that this is not an acceptable thing and is punishable by international law.

[QUOTE=blah2;46788180]Can't wait to see how a big part of that money is thoughtfully 'laundered' by the Red Cross to the wealthy owners/founders/CEO's/whatever through expenses left and right. The Red Cross isn't 100% transparent. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] Actually everybody sane knows that.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277#.VJwVTl4As[/url] Red Cross is extremely transparent and very good about where their money goes, get off the edge.

[QUOTE=ImperialGuard;46791682][url]http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277#.VJwVTl4As[/url] Red Cross is extremely transparent and very good about where their money goes, get off the edge.[/QUOTE] I'm not talking about the American Red Cross. Also, charity navigator verifies the American Red Cross. But who verifies charity navigator? How do you trust it so blindly. We live in times where you have to question everything.

[QUOTE=blah2;46791762]I'm not talking about the American Red Cross. Also, charity navigator verifies the American Red Cross. But who verifies charity navigator? How do you trust it so blindly. We live in times where you have to question everything.[/QUOTE] It's easier to just accept things that generate good feelings. Same way people (without mental issues) don't question compliments but do when it comes to insults. Even if the compliment is not true, it makes you feel good and that's all that matters in this world.

Charities are pyramid schemes where most money never reaches those that need it.

[QUOTE=Killergam;46791997]Charities are pyramid schemes where most money never reaches those that need it.[/QUOTE] Oh my god, thank you so much. All those references, solid evidence and thoughtful reasoning opened my eyes. I just feel bad about being baited into being a part of a pyramid scheme. This is a turning point in my life. I cannot trust these organisations, yet I still want to be able to do some good so I guess the only way to do so now is to actually stop working and studying and actually travel to these areas to try to end sexual abuse in conflict zones. Of course this is quite expensive, so if you would like to donate a couple of dollars to help me help people you can truly make a difference.

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46792081]So many claims so little proof.[/QUOTE] You don't need proof to question something. You only need it if you're stating your facts as true.

Goodness, its like some of you cannot be happy, you have to find something to whine about in everything. Anyways, the belief that some charities arent what they say isn't entirely unfounded. For example, pink ribbon, the charity against breast cancer, has put their label on carcinogens [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/21/komen-is-supposed-to-be-curing-breast-cancer-so-why-is-its-pink-ribbon-on-so-many-carcinogenic-products/[/url] However, Red Cross is very transparent and uses donations to actually help people. Don't be throwing accusations around without some stable evidence.

[QUOTE=Riutet;46789393]That you say "depends on the conflict zone in question", you are right there. Not every conflict zone is the same and I can't at all speak on current ones as I don't keep up to date on the literature on them. I can only speak of what I've read about from the past and use that as precedent that it may not be as much a female exclusive problem as some might believe. For example if we take a look at this survey published by [url=http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=186342]JAMA[/url] that examines conflict related sexual violence in the Congo, we can see numbers that seem to suggest that approximately 1/3rd of victims are men while 2/3rd are women. I'd implore you to read the survey yourself though both to ascertain whether you think the methodology and results are valid and to go into further detail on what I have only touched upon extremely briefly. Obviously women and girls are most likely always in the majority when it comes to sexual violence in conflict zones, but I don't think it's wise to pretend that men and boys occupy some sort of insignificant enough minority that it can be pretended to be a female problem and not just a problem that everyone faces.[/QUOTE] I have watched a documentary on it, and a lot of the men that get raped barely search for help. Those that do are heavily stigmatized, since the whole gay thing isn't really welcomed too kindly. The helpcenters also get targetted by people, so they aren't safe when they look for help either. As you can see, I live in The Netherlands. The ''Hands of Our Girls'' charity also left me a bit of a sour taste in my mouth. Last year they went with a water theme, to make everyone aware how precious it is to have running water. That year everyone benefitted from it, now only one gender does. I am not saying it is a bad charity, I just would've loved to have seen more inclusion. Edit: Last year was about hygiene and diarrhea, my bad.

[QUOTE=blah2;46788180]Can't wait to see how a big part of that money is thoughtfully 'laundered' by the Red Cross to the wealthy owners/founders/CEO's/whatever through expenses left and right. The Red Cross isn't 100% transparent. [editline]24th December 2014[/editline] Actually everybody sane knows that.[/QUOTE] Fucking christ aren't you edgy

at the moment i identify as a girl (check ur privlige please) and am living in conflict zones ( UK and germany ) and mans look at me sometimes (sexual abuse) so do u think theyll get me some euros?

[QUOTE=Antlerp;46796072]at the moment i identify as a girl (check ur privlige please) and am living in conflict zones ( UK and germany ) and mans look at me sometimes (sexual abuse) so do u think theyll get me some euros?[/QUOTE] jesus christ, way to trivialize actual gigantic problems of the world