• Germany: Syrian refugees rescue neo-Nazi leader Stefan Jagsch from wreckage of car crash
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[URL="http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/germany-syrian-refugees-rescue-neo-nazi-leader-stefan-jagsch-wreckage-car-crash-1550993"]SOURCE[/URL] [QUOTE]Syrian refugees saved the life of a German neo-Nazi leader, pulling him from the wreckage of a car crash, officials told German media.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1501502/stefan-jagsch.jpg?w=225[/IMG] Other Sources: [URL]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/syrian-refugees-neo-nazi-npd-german-politician-stefan-jagsch-car-crash-aldentstadt-hesse-a6946046.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/buedingen-fluechtlinge-retten-npd-politiker-nach-auto-unfall-a-1083558.html[/URL] [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/22/syrians-rescue-german-far-right-stefan-jagsch-from-car-crash-wreckage[/URL] [url]http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/german-neo-nazi-politician-rescued-car-crash-syrian-refugees-1337161772[/url]
For once some news on here that is migrant related and not bad or opinionated
Reminds me of a similar story in California a few weeks ago [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3468569/Jewish-man-tells-helped-two-KKK-members-away-mob-attack-Anaheim.html[/url] [quote]After pushing one of the Klansmen, Grand Dragon Bill Quigg, away from the crowd, Levin said he asked him: 'How does it feel that your life was just saved by a Jewish man?' Quigg replied 'thank you,' according to Levin.[/quote]
Admirable and noble gesture, but it will be difficult to sway public opinion with all the events that took place in Europe so far.
That's a very sensationalist title don't you think?
[QUOTE=Chaitin;49985711]Admirable and noble gesture, but it will be difficult to sway public opinion with all the events that took place in Europe so far.[/QUOTE] Bad memories last longer than good memories, unfortunately.
Oh look, it's time for your average good Muslim/refugee article after some disastrous event relating to them happens in Europe. Same thing happened during Batacalan where every news article quickly let out article about brave Muslim security guard preventing shooters from entering the stadium which later on was debunked. Not to mention that other news article with children holding up signs "sorry for Brussels" which just made me cringe how lame these appeal to emotions are. I advise you all to read this article: [url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/url]
This is beautiful. Highly commendable by the people involved.
Sadly the bad outweighs the good by many many times.
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49989858]Oh look, it's time for your average good Muslim/refugee article after some disastrous event relating to them happens in Europe. Same thing happened during Batacalan where every news article quickly let out article about brave Muslim security guard preventing shooters from entering the stadium which later on was debunked. Not to mention that other news article with children holding up signs "sorry for Brussels" which just made me cringe how lame these appeal to emotions are. I advise you all to read this article: [url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/url][/QUOTE] And what's your point exactly? That only articles presenting muslims in a bad light should be posted?
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49989858]Oh look, it's time for your average good Muslim/refugee article after some disastrous event relating to them happens in Europe. Same thing happened during Batacalan where every news article quickly let out article about brave Muslim security guard preventing shooters from entering the stadium which later on was debunked. Not to mention that other news article with children holding up signs "sorry for Brussels" which just made me cringe how lame these appeal to emotions are. I advise you all to read this article: [url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/url][/QUOTE] Are you seriously not seeing that its the irony of syrian refugees saving a fucking noe-Nazi leaders life is what makes this article noteworthy?
[QUOTE=Dzonintz;49989858]Oh look, it's time for your average good Muslim/refugee article after some disastrous event relating to them happens in Europe. Same thing happened during Batacalan where every news article quickly let out article about brave Muslim security guard preventing shooters from entering the stadium which later on was debunked. Not to mention that other news article with children holding up signs "sorry for Brussels" which just made me cringe how lame these appeal to emotions are. I advise you all to read this article: [url]http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/a-terrorist-attack-has-happened-in-europe-let-the-standard-response-begin/[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah, sure, got a point, but I'm fairly certain this one is posted because of a neo-nazi being saved by the people he hates.
Oh cool let's carry on accepting migrants and refugees then hahaha what a fucking laugh.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990200]Oh cool let's carry on accepting migrants and refugees then hahaha what a fucking laugh.[/QUOTE] Are refugees not the people actually in need of help who don't deserve scorn and hatred? Since you've already separated them from migrants.
How about we carry on accepting the fact they're people too, just like us, and are in need of help right now?
[QUOTE=Milkdairy;49990224]Are refugees not the people actually in need of help who don't deserve scorn and hatred? Since you've already separated them from migrants.[/QUOTE] Gold star for you for being such a thoughtful and kind-hearted person, I'm going to cry. Does the US want to take them all off us or something, because I'm not sure of your point other than to insinuate that I'm in some way xenophobic to a people that are literally destroying our continent before our eyes. Migrants and refugees are different but we can't have one without the other now that fuck it everybody has decided to pack their shit and move up to good ol' Europe. IMO we shouldn't even take anybody anymore, but that's probably just me! Enough is enough, the amount of violent things people are saying in celebration of the Brussels attacks on the internet is sickening and in anger and defensiveness I couldn't give a fuck about anybody other than my family (Europeans). I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry. The cultural differences are too great en masse, that's not saying the odd one or two people wouldn't assimilate but as a whole it's just [B]not[/B] happening. I predict a shitstorm coming with this anyway, but apparently I'm a massive trigger to the softies on here. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281]Gold star for you for being such a thoughtful and kind-hearted person, I'm going to cry. Does the US want to take them all off us or something, because I'm not sure of your point other than to insinuate that I'm in some way xenophobic to a people that are literally destroying our continent before our eyes. Migrants and refugees are different but we can't have one without the other now that fuck it everybody has decided to pack their shit and move up to good ol' Europe. IMO we shouldn't even take anybody anymore, but that's probably just me! Enough is enough, the amount of violent things people are saying in celebration of the Brussels attacks on the internet is sickening and in anger and defensiveness I couldn't give a fuck about anybody other than my family (Europeans). I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry. The cultural differences are too great en masse, that's not saying the odd one or two people wouldn't assimilate but as a whole it's just [B]not[/B] happening. I predict a shitstorm coming with this anyway, but apparently I'm a massive trigger to the softies on here.[/QUOTE] "Why are people calling me Xenophobic" "I only care about European lives" "Syrians are incompatible with our culture" okay pal, clearly not ethnocentrist in anyway like you say
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49990307]"Why are people calling me Xenophobic" "I only care about European lives" okay pal[/QUOTE] What a super fucking 100% BAD misquotation there pal [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] I didn't say ethnocentrist either. Put your thesaurus down and try harder to come up with something I actually said that is clearly so repulsive.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281]Gold star for you for being such a thoughtful and kind-hearted person, I'm going to cry. Does the US want to take them all off us or something, because I'm not sure of your point other than to insinuate that I'm in some way xenophobic to a people that are literally destroying our continent before our eyes. Migrants and refugees are different but we can't have one without the other now that fuck it everybody has decided to pack their shit and move up to good ol' Europe. IMO we shouldn't even take anybody anymore, but that's probably just me! Enough is enough, the amount of violent things people are saying in celebration of the Brussels attacks on the internet is sickening and in anger and defensiveness I couldn't give a fuck about anybody other than my family (Europeans). [b]I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry.[/b] The cultural differences are too great en masse, that's not saying the odd one or two people wouldn't assimilate but as a whole it's just [B]not[/B] happening. I predict a shitstorm coming with this anyway, but apparently I'm a massive trigger to the softies on here.[/QUOTE] He valued germans over jews Ran for president in '32 A few years later Country full of haters Next they gasses jews and poles too. Those refugees are coming anyway, they won't stay in Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/other wartorn regions and the refugee camps in their immediate neighbouring countries are filling up. There's not some refugee tap you can toggle.
[QUOTE=!LORD M!;49989923]Sadly the bad outweighs the good by many many times.[/QUOTE] Do you hold your own countrymen to the same retarded standard or? Do you go out of your way to do a good deed when another Swede does something bad, just to balance the books or are you content with just living another day without being a tremendous thundercunt to someone else? Do you honestly not realise that it is obscene to blame the majority for the actions of a minority? I might as well be pissing into the wind here, but it is revolting to see how quickly some of you people devolve into this xenophobic "they're all rapists and murderers with the exception of a few and the culture gap is just too great" attitude. There are definite economic and social issues related to taking in this many refugees this fast, and there are freeloaders and awful people among them, make no mistake, but there are 1.8 billion muslims in the world, if they were all as awful as some of you seem to think, the situation would be far, far, far worse.
[QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990311]What a super fucking 100% BAD misquotation there pal [editline]23rd March 2016[/editline] I didn't say ethnocentrist either. Put your thesaurus down and try harder to come up with something I actually said that is clearly so repulsive.[/QUOTE] It's pretty clear you display ethnocentric views by: Valuing Europeans over those of other cultures Putting some sort of "brotherhood" of your culture over other humans Implying Syrians are completely incompatible with Westerners Implied blaming of Syrians refugees in general for the attack (I'm willing to bet it was mostly native Belgium's either with residence in Brussels or returning to Brussels as opposed to war refugees) And getting really defensive over xenophobia claims. Also harshly criticizing any attempt of humanizing the refugees (Such attempts are clearly aimed at the likes of you, but you disregard them)
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;49990322]He valued germans over jews Ran for president in '32 A few years later Country full of haters Next they gasses jews and poles too. Those refugees are coming anyway, they won't stay in Syria/Iraq/Afghanistan/other wartorn regions and the refugee camps in their immediate neighbouring countries are filling up. There's not some refugee tap you can toggle.[/QUOTE] Oh okay I'm Hitler now. Fuck me, godwin in 2 posts.
I do believe it is problematic to take in uncontrollable amount of masses but they don't have a whole lot of places to go. US could of course play a part in this but they're having even more issues helping their own to begin with. Most effective would be probably to accept in refugees and also do something to help solve the root cause of the issue, but that's just me. The whole situation is far from pefect but it's better than doing nothing at all.
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49990330]It's pretty clear you display ethnocentric views by: Valuing Europeans over those of other cultures Putting some sort of "brotherhood" of your culture over other humans Implying Syrians are completely incompatible with Westerners Implied blaming of Syrians refugees in general for the attack (I'm willing to bet it was mostly native Belgium's either with residence in Brussels or returning to Brussels as opposed to war refugees) And getting really defensive over xenophobia claims.[/QUOTE] I don't think it's bad to have a "brotherhood", as you sarcastically put it, with fellow Europeans given the current social climate. Look, I know you're all whiteknighting the migrants and refugees to fuck, but what do you actually want from me by all triggered-quoting? "Ok, I value Syrians more than Europeans now! biji kurdistan!" I did not say SYRIAN, in the first place. God damn it every time I have to reply to one of you I have to spend thirty minutes saying "I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that" Stick to what I say word for word, I'm not responsible for words I don't say.
Also, fun fact: A lot of the violent/sexual assault claims are committed by North African migrants from relatively stable countries such as Tunisia, Morocco or Algeria. Cologne Sexual assaults were committed by 30 North Africans, 2 Syrians, 1 Iraqi and 1-2 natives. At least, those were among the ones arrested. Syrian and Iraqi refugees haven't committed that many crimes at all proportionately. North African migrants are kind of a completely different problem to the refugee crisis which has been going on for some time now.
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49990330]It's pretty clear you display ethnocentric views by: Valuing Europeans over those of other cultures Putting some sort of "brotherhood" of your culture over other humans Implying Syrians are completely incompatible with Westerners Implied blaming of Syrians refugees in general for the attack (I'm willing to bet it was mostly native Belgium's either with residence in Brussels or returning to Brussels as opposed to war refugees) And getting really defensive over xenophobia claims. Also harshly criticizing any attempt of humanizing the refugees (Such attempts are clearly aimed at the likes of you, but you disregard them)[/QUOTE] "harshly criticizing any attempt of humanizing the refugees" you are fucking blind sir, and I'm not longer replying to your bullshit accusations, nor anybody else that puts words into my mouth, and can't debate me properly.
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[QUOTE=RaptorJGW;49985978]Bad memories last longer than good memories, unfortunately.[/QUOTE] No they don't (I tried searching for the studies our professor gave us on the subject but I didn't find them so have a wiki link instead) [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fading_affect_bias"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fading_affect_bias[/URL]
[QUOTE=GarbageCan;49990364][QUOTE=Cypher_09;49990281] I care about Europeans more than Syrians, sorry. The cultural differences are too great en masse, that's not saying the odd one or two people wouldn't assimilate but as a whole it's just [B]not[/B] happening.E] You did say Syrian though...?[/QUOTE] "I care about Europeans more than Syrians." Seperate independent sentence no way concurring with the last. "The cultural differences are too great en masse..." I did, just not in every sentence like you wish I did. edit: you messed up quoting silly!
[QUOTE=FlyingDog;49990325]Do you hold your own countrymen to the same retarded standard or? Do you go out of your way to do a good deed when another Swede does something bad, just to balance the books or are you content with just living another day without being a tremendous thundercunt to someone else? Do you honestly not realise that it is obscene to blame the majority for the actions of a minority? I might as well be pissing into the wind here, but it is revolting to see how quickly some of you people devolve into this xenophobic "they're all rapists and murderers with the exception of a few and the culture gap is just too great" attitude. There are definite economic and social issues related to taking in this many refugees this fast, and there are freeloaders and awful people among them, make no mistake, but there are 1.8 billion muslims in the world, if they were all as awful as some of you seem to think, the situation would be far, far, far worse.[/QUOTE] Hahaha oh wow. Absolutely hilarious response. Talk about reading what one wants to read and assuming what one wants to assume without any knowledge. Utter ignorance.
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