• David Cameron pledges tax cut for 30 million people and protection for NHS budget if re-elected
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[QUOTE]In a speech which cheered his party and ended their conference, he said he would raise the tax-free allowance from £10,500 to £12,500 by 2020. He also said the threshold for the 40p income tax rate would be raised from £41,900 to £50,000 by the end of a five year Conservative government. Somebody working a 30-hour week on the minimum wage would pay no income tax, he said: "Nothing, zero, zilch." The Institute for Fiscal Studies said the combined costs of the tax changes would be £7.2bn. Raising the threshold for the 40p tax band would be worth £3,200 a year to those earning £50,000.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29433919[/url] You can tell he's also trying to win over some of the UKIP voters with other policies.
theres no chance he is getting re-elected
[QUOTE=alien_guy;46122532]theres no chance he is getting re-elected[/QUOTE] I'm almost certain that he'll win the next election. The Euro elections showed us that the Conservative vote hasn't collapsed, if it were not for London, they would have beaten Labour and even then the Conservatives only lost by 300,000 votes. In 2015, Ukip won't take nearly as many votes away from the Conservates as they did in 2014, this means that the Conservatives are almost certain to win the popular vote. Not only this but the governing party always gets a boost in the polls toward the general election, the Conservatives will also benefit from the Double Incumbency factor as a result of having existing MPs in many constituents. While Labour already have a difficult time trying to convince their own natural voters to support Ed Miliband, if they can't convince their own voters to vote for them, how are they going to convince swing voters to vote for them. Ukip also present a huge problem for Labour in the North, because Ukip is targeting the typical working class areas which Labour has neglected and taken for granted. Labour are also facing the challenge of the SNP in Scotland, who threaten to actually take seats away from them, when instead an opposition would expect to gain seats, this opposition might actually lose them.
Yeah fuck off Cameron you cunt.
Definitely revoting them.
All parties are pledging tax cuts for those on minimum wage, but they're not saying they'll help businesses expand so they can actually recruit more people/ the job sector in general.
I like the general sound of the policies themselves (but I'm not an economist so maybe there's something I'm missing) but I don't trust the man or his party.
[QUOTE=The mouse;46122803]I'm almost certain that he'll win the next election. The Euro elections showed us that the Conservative vote hasn't collapsed, if it were not for London, they would have beaten Labour and even then the Conservatives only lost by 300,000 votes. In 2015, Ukip won't take nearly as many votes away from the Conservates as they did in 2014, this means that the Conservatives are almost certain to win the popular vote. Not only this but the governing party always gets a boost in the polls toward the general election, the Conservatives will also benefit from the Double Incumbency factor as a result of having existing MPs in many constituents. While Labour already have a difficult time trying to convince their own natural voters to support Ed Miliband, if they can't convince their own voters to vote for them, how are they going to convince swing voters to vote for them. Ukip also present a huge problem for Labour in the North, because Ukip is targeting the typical working class areas which Labour has neglected and taken for granted. Labour are also facing the challenge of the SNP in Scotland, who threaten to actually take seats away from them, when instead an opposition would expect to gain seats, this opposition might actually lose them.[/QUOTE] An outright win by any party seems pretty unlikely to me at this stage, we're probably heading for another hung parliament. There's even a possibility that, with the Lib Dem vote collapsing, a two-party coalition government [url=http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/09/29/ukip-snp-and-risks-parliamentary-paralysis/]might be impossible[/url].
The statistics speak for themselves imo, regardless of whether you trust him or not. Why you take the risk of letting another party (ran by Ed Milliband) attempt to do the same or better when this party is already doing it?
is this a "cast iron" guarantee?
[QUOTE=krakadict;46122922]is this a "cast iron" guarantee?[/QUOTE] Its as much of a guarantee as any other party's
Would help if he kept his last fucking pledge before making another one.
So he wants to keep this ridiculous bedroom tax and scrap human rights act; that is reason enough not to vote for him.
Also, the tax cuts only come into effect if they 'balance the books' i.e. tackle the deficit which they haven't done yet. They've only manage to reduce it so far by auctioning off the 4G frequency bands and by flogging off the Post Office (at a hilariously bad price, as it turned out), so lord knows what they're gonna try and sell off this time round to try and reduce it.
I hope we get another coalition government.
I already got all my tax free allowance, even if I hadn't it still sounds like an offering of peanuts for votes. Oh, and what's this about scrapping the Human Rights Act? My only guess is that their reason for this is they're not really human anymore.
I don't hate Cameron, but I cannot vote Tory if he continues to have people like Theresa May, Gove and Jeremy Hunt as his 'most trusted allies'. The Tory's have tried to do some really vile things - not economically, I grant you, but in most other areas, and I could not bring myself to say 'well it could be worse'.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;46124196]I don't hate Cameron, but I cannot vote Tory if he continues to have people like Theresa May, Gove and Jeremy Hunt as his 'most trusted allies'. The Tory's have tried to do some really vile things - not economically, I grant you, but in most other areas, and I could not bring myself to say 'well it could be worse'.[/QUOTE] I don't really get why people hate Micheal Gove? He's literally the most working class, disadvantaged background person in the cabinet at a time when people say the government is out of touch. If there was anyone who I would want to run Education, it'd be him.
[QUOTE=The mouse;46124281]I don't really get why people hate Micheal Gove? He's literally the most working class, disadvantaged background person in the cabinet at a time when people say the government is out of touch. If there was anyone who I would want to run Education, it'd be him.[/QUOTE] Personally I dislike the education reforms he brings in because of the suddenness of them and how they don't seem to consider students. For example I'd chosen French, English and History for some of my courses a couple of years back and then by the time I started my GCSE's the qualification I would have gotten for completing them was discontinued. I also think his attempts to make state schools up to private standards are good in theory but not in practice, I may be wrong but didn't he suggest having 2 more hours on the school day? It's a bit far fetched anyways because the sheer amount of kids in my school (Not speaking for all state schools) means that it'd be hard even with reform to get it to a public/private school standard. I'm a little unfamiliar with this though so correct me if I'm wrong.
useless cunt
[QUOTE=Marzipas;46124385]useless cunt[/QUOTE] Sorry, I can't hear you over all this progress
i used to scoff so much at the torries but i just dont anymore it used to be a case of the typical naive "i'm left so i'll vote labour" syndrome for me. i'm still left-leaning and very liberal, but honestly at this point there's no use in getting obsessed with the philosophical backbones of parties because they no longer exist. the differences between the three main parties are so insignificant now. yes there are other parties but, lets be honest, in a national election especially, it's a massive throw-away to go for anything other than lib/lab/con and maybe greens at a push these days for me it really boils down to picking apart the manifestos, ignoring what party they come from, but also a massive thing for me now is just trust. realistically speaking i mean. at this point there is absolutely no reason for me to trust milliband and labour. sadly this is down to milliband's terrible statesmanship but also because he has given me nothing to get excited about and is sitting on the party's terrible track record of the past decade really sick of this infantile "fuck the torries they just wanna shaft poor people" thing. it's pretty baseless at this point. most of it just stems from the cuts which any party that got into power would have had to do in almost exactly the same fashion my only real issues with the torries are the educational, security, and police reforms. they're pretty terrible. that said, labour have an absolutely horrendous track record when it comes to liberty so, while they're more trustworthy with education and the nhs, i wouldn't want them anywhere near any security reform coming out of the current changes to the world political climate (massive destabilisation, ISIS, etc)
They are raising the 40p tax band, but have they even looked at the average salary of a UK adult as it's nowhere near that high. People will make minimum savings on the tax free allowance. Of course nothing like this applies when inflation continues to increase above pay rises.
The solution is to vote for the Green party and laugh at everyone who voted Tory/Labour/Libdem as they suffer with voters remorse for the next 5 years.
[QUOTE=Coffee;46129893]The solution is to vote for the Green party and laugh at everyone who voted Tory/Labour/Libdem as they suffer with voters remorse for the next 5 years.[/QUOTE] What and waste your vote and regret that instead? As far as I'm concerned if you want to vote and you hate everyone, Vote Lib dem, atleast then you can curb the power of any government.
[QUOTE=Coffee;46129893]The solution is to vote for the Green party and laugh at everyone who voted Tory/Labour/Libdem as they suffer with voters remorse for the next 5 years.[/QUOTE] Green party is a joke, seeing their leader call for negotiations with ISIS during the debate last week was ludicrous.
David is a lying twat anyway, would not vote for.
His government has implemented austerity cuts over the last 4 and a half years that have hit the poor and vulnerable the hardest. The rich have got richer while the poor got poorer, again. How gullible does he think the British public are? "We realise we've fucked you all pretty hard for 5 years, but we promise we'll do good next time" The Eton twat can get to fuck
[QUOTE=Bad)-(and;46130662]His government has implemented austerity cuts over the last 4 and a half years that have hit the poor and vulnerable the hardest. The rich have got richer while the poor got poorer, again. How gullible does he think the British public are?[/QUOTE] You say that as if he did it on purpose. The nature of economics means that the poor and vulnerable are always the hardest hit no matter what happens after a recession. The Rich always recover first because they never had very far to fall to begin with. Not only this but the vast majority of the British public are doing just fine, certainly better than they were doing 4 years ago.
[QUOTE=onebit;46123250]Why can't he do it now?[/QUOTE] Because ME, ME, ME! CAMMY WANT A RE-LEC! CAMMY WANT A RE-LEC. If there isn't something in it for his insufferably eggy and probably sentient forehead, he doesn't want to hear a syllable. Jokes aside, I've given up hope on there being anything valid coming out of the next election. It's just going to be a case of which of the many bad choices we end up with.
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