• Romani given £1m grant 'turned camp into cannabis factory'
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[t]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03212/glyn-mill-progress_3212918b.jpg[/t] [QUOTE]A gypsy community given more than £1 million in public money to improve their caravan site turned it into a giant cannabis factory. Police raided the camp and found a well-organised operation capable of producing cannabis with a street value of £250,000 a year. The site received a government grant of £1.3 million in 2011 to refurbish the site and build a community centre for its 120 residents. But officials were tipped off that the caravan dwellers were seen buying large amounts of compost and gardening equipment from a local garden centre. Cannabis was found growing in 12 of the 24 caravan plots on the three-acre Glynmill Gypsy and Traveller Site in Merthyr Tyfdil, south Wales.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11437185/Gypsies-given-1m-grant-turned-camp-into-cannabis-factory.html[/url]
no one is surprised.
somethingsomething something stereotypes. Seriously, you keep giving them money/housing/jobs to clean up and it almost always goes AWOL. Did they really have nothing better to do with the money besides grow weed? Pardon me for sounding like an extremely insensitive snob but it's almost like they WANT to stay at the third world scum-tier lifestyle. We give them all the help you could imagine and they simply refuse to do anything with it. I know places up north that have been begging for a million dollar grant for decades and our government keeps calling back going "pfft, you don't NEED running water." Edited: [QUOTE=ImperialGuard;47246492]Who is they?[/QUOTE] The Romas.
well i guess if cannabis was legalized in the UK it'd be quite a good business venture
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;47246423]well i guess if cannabis was legalized in the UK it'd be quite a good business venture[/QUOTE] But it's not and $1,000,000 can open the way to good business ventures that currently [I]are[/I] legal.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47246452]But it's not and $1,000,000 can open the way to good business ventures that currently [I]are[/I] legal.[/QUOTE] Yeah they could open a rival garden center to sell fertilizer, grow lights and compost to other local growers instead. ;)
To be fair, they would have paid off the entire investment in around five years, and would have been making nothing but profit after that point, making their community quite possibly one of the most productive caravan sites.
[QUOTE=Blanketspace;47246467]To be fair, they would have paid off the entire investment in around five years, and would have been making nothing but profit after that point, making their community quite possibly one of the most productive caravan sites.[/QUOTE] Yeah the business model was rock solid. Too bad it was otherwise illegal.
[QUOTE=MIPS;47246400]somethingsomething something stereotypes. Seriously, you keep giving them money/housing/jobs to clean up and it almost always goes AWOL. Did they really have nothing better to do with the money besides grow weed? Pardon me for sounding like an extremely insensitive snob but it's almost like they WANT to stay at the third world scum-tier lifestyle. We give them all the help you could imagine and they simply refuse to do anything with it. I know places up north that have been begging for a million dollar grant for decades and our government keeps calling back going "pfft, you don't NEED running water."[/QUOTE] Who is they?
[quote]street value of £250,000 a year.[/quote] So basically they raided the equivalent of a lemonade stand. That amount of product is laughably, [I]laughably[/I] tiny compared to an actual bust of worth. Here in the US they're seizing tens of millions of dollars in [U]single shipments.[/U]
[QUOTE=Worldwaker;47246534]So basically they raided the equivalent of a lemonade stand. That amount of product is laughably, [I]laughably[/I] tiny compared to an actual bust of worth. Here in the US they're seizing tens of millions of dollars in [U]single shipments.[/U][/QUOTE] This was a tiny production place that had only £1.3M initial investiment. £250,000 a year from that is fairly impressive.
Very enterprising of them. They identified a market, accumulated the capital to start operations and created a sustainable business out of it. they are truly the captains of industry.
[QUOTE=EditOutJ;47246564]This was a tiny production place that had only £1.3M initial investiment. £250,000 a year from that is fairly impressive.[/QUOTE] Grand scheme, it's not even a drop in a puddle. I lived in Colorado most of my life, and trust me when I say, that dollar amount isn't close to anything major. When you can get a product for virtually nothing, and then endlessly create more of said product. £250K is chump change. [editline]2nd March 2015[/editline] [quote]But officials were tipped off that the caravan dwellers were seen buying large amounts of compost and gardening equipment from a local garden centre.[/quote] Oh, and the above gem.
Hopefully aliens don't steal all of that cannabis.
how else were they supposed to make a return on the investment?
That pot farm generated way more economic activity for the community than any lame-ass community center. I call this program a huge success.
[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/03/01/26350DE500000578-0-image-m-13_1425208442185.jpg[/img] What would happen if you populated an island with Gypsies only?
[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;47247082]What would happen if you populated an island only with Gypsies?[/QUOTE] oh boy i can't wait to see where this line of thought goes
So they make a cannabis industry, and export the raw product to cannabis legal areas... Therefore making massive profits and not only supporting local gardening economies, but also giving economic improvement to their own lives..? What's the problem again?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47247116]So they make a cannabis industry, and export the raw product to cannabis legal areas... Therefore making massive profits and not only supporting local gardening economies, but also giving economic improvement to their own lives..? What's the problem again?[/QUOTE] It's illegal.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47247116]So they make a cannabis industry, and export the raw product to cannabis legal areas... Therefore making massive profits and not only supporting local gardening economies, but also giving economic improvement to their own lives..? What's the problem again?[/QUOTE] Heh, if only, cannabis is 100% illegal in the UK and is even a class B drug (from A being heroin and shit, to C being the lowest/least harmful?.) Being caught as a dealer or grower gets you 14 years in prison but personal use and even possession you often just get it taken off you or just get a warning, the police don't really bother that much about users of cannabis as long as it's not whilst driving a vehicle or other shit. [editline]3rd March 2015[/editline] The sentences being up-to 14 years, its' pretty rare for that max of a sentence and one of the local dealers here has been raided multiple times and they just seem to not care.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47247129]It's illegal.[/QUOTE] Okay maybe they fucked up on the legal part, still they can legally farm it with a license from the Home Office, and export it.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;47247150]Okay maybe they fucked up on the legal part, still they can legally farm it with a license from the Home Office, and export it.[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's morally wrong. But that doesn't stop the fact that it's illegal.
[QUOTE=Cone;47247093]oh boy i can't wait to see where this line of thought goes[/QUOTE] Me neither.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47247186]Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's morally wrong. But that doesn't stop the fact that it's illegal.[/QUOTE] If something not deemed immoral or harmful is illegal, the law is corrupted. I'm not going to hate on them simply because of what the law said.
How would they not figure this out earlier? All you need to do to find a grow op is to do a sweep with a thermal camera on a cold day. Wherever there's a huge red area you either have a gateway to hell or a marijuana grow op. Alternatively, "Gee, I wonder why that gypsy camp is using $700 in electricity a month." EDIT: Touche.
[QUOTE=Grimhound;47247721] Alternatively, "Gee, I wonder why that gypsy camp is using $700 in electricity a month."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=OP][img]http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03212/glyn-mill-progress_3212918b.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=bitches;47247285]If something not deemed immoral or harmful is illegal, the law is corrupted. I'm not going to hate on them simply because of what the law said.[/QUOTE] They still abused the money given to them to create a community center, and instead went on to build something to earn illegal money for their own greed. That's not very morally right, imho. [quote]People living in Merthyr Tydfil were angry that public money had been "wasted" at a time when education and social budgets are being cut. One resident, who lives on a new housing estate just 400 yards from the gypsy site, said: "A lot of money was spent improving their lives and they have taken advantage by turning the place into a cannabis farm. "The police were seen taking huge bushes of the stuff away. "I have nothing against genuine gypsies but all the money spent on this community has been wasted if they are not going to abide by the law."[/quote]
And people are going to treat this as some kind of reason never to give any Romani any money ever because they will absolutely spend every penny of it on crack or pot or something.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47248175]And people are going to treat this as some kind of reason never to give any Romani any money ever because they will absolutely spend every penny of it on crack or pot or something.[/QUOTE] Well it's either that or BMWs. But yeah you shouldn't collectively judge an entire people because of what some of them have done. I don't think throwing money at them will do anything to help though, their culture all but forbids them from starting anything legitimate because then they would have to work with the country's government and pay taxes and stuff.
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