'US to announce aerial blockade on Syria' - Polidicks

[release] The Pentagon is readying for the possibility of intervention in Syria, aiming to halt Syrian President Bashsar Assad's violent crackdown on protesters, the newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat reported Saturday, citing a US military offical. According to the official, the intervention scenario calls for the establishment of a buffer zone on the Turkish border, in order to receive Syrian refugees. The Red Cross would then provide the civilians humanitarian aid, before NATO crews would arrive from Turkey and join the efforts. The measure would pave the way for the US to declare an aerial blockade on Syria. The intercession is to be modeled after NATO's efforts in Kosovo, which brought an end to the Serbian control of the region. NATO's plan of action included prolonged aerial shelling. The US' diplomatic efforts have yet to yield an effective international resolution that would stop the bloodshed. More than 100 protesters have died over the weekend alone, human rights activists said. Russia, China to join aid efforts? According to Asharq Al-Awsat, the Pentagon does not anticipate a change of heart on the part of China or Russia, who have opposed foreign intervention or sanctions against Syria. But the US expects the two nations to join the humanitarian aid efforts, support a ceasefire between the Syrian regime and rebels and send special UN envoys to investigate the developments in the country. The next step in the reported US Department of Defense plan would be to appoint a team of UN observers to monitor the humanitarian aid, and enter Syria. They would need aerial protection, which would eventually lead to an aerial blockade. The military official said in the interview that the plan is a cautious one, and takes into account the Syrian air force's advanced capabilities. In his most forceful words to date on the Syrian crisis, US President Barack Obama said Friday the US and its allies would use "every tool available" to end the bloodshed by Assad's government. "It is time to stop the killing of Syrian citizens by their own government," Obama said in Washington, adding that it "absolutely imperative for the international community to rally and send a clear message to President Assad that it is time for a transition. It is time for that regime to move on." As government troops relentlessly shelled rebel-held neighborhoods in the besieged city of Homs, thousands of people in dozens of towns staged anti-regime protests under the slogan: "We will revolt for your sake, Baba Amr," referring to the Homs neighborhood that has become the center of the Syrian revolt. Opposition groups reported that 103 people were killed on Friday by the regime's forces.[/release] [url]http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4194506,00.html[/url]

"US readies for [b]possibility[/b] of intervention without UN resolution" As in, not yet happening

Considering that most arms are apparently being shipped in by sea, and most of the attacks on Homs and the other rebellious areas have been by artillery and tank fire, I fail to see how this would help.

[QUOTE=Glorbo;34895304]"US readies for [b]possibility[/b] of intervention without UN resolution" As in, not yet happening[/QUOTE] If I remember correctly, they've been "readying" themselves for quite a while, drawing up plans and such. I think there was an article a couple weeks ago about a US general saying they were "preparing" for the possibility of intervening. [editline]27th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=ewitwins;34895500]Considering that most arms are apparently being shipped in by sea, and most of the attacks on Homs and the other rebellious areas have been by artillery and tank fire, I fail to see how this would help.[/QUOTE] We shall take out the artillery shells as they fly through the airspace! :v:

Can shit not be real for just one day?

[QUOTE=MightyMax;34895512]Can shit not be real for just one day?[/QUOTE] It got real when Syria decided to shoot it's own citizens.

Hear that? That is the sound of every USAF fighter pilot tasked with air supremacy getting an erection at the thought of shooting down MiG-29's.

[QUOTE=GunFox;34896009]Hear that? That is the sound of every USAF fighter pilot tasked with air supremacy getting an erection at the thought of shooting down MiG-29's.[/QUOTE] How long has it been since a Jet vs Jet fight in military warefare?

Eh.... The Georgian Conflict would be my best bet.

What is in it for the west?

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;34896338]What is in it for the west?[/QUOTE] Why should there have to be some reward as an incentive to stopping mass murder?

[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;34896338]What is in it for the west?[/QUOTE] A whole bunch of Syrians who see American hardware shooting at the people who are shooting at them. Generally rather difficult to wrangle support for an attack on a country after you see their gear showing up to cover you.

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;34896214]How long has it been since a Jet vs Jet fight in military warefare?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e3Fu2zeido[/media]

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34895500]Considering that most arms are apparently being shipped in by sea, and most of the attacks on Homs and the other rebellious areas have been by artillery and tank fire, I fail to see how this would help.[/QUOTE] Like we did with Libya, Secure the air space, take down AA guns, AA missiles, anything that can hit a moving air vehicle. gain total air supremacy, then start bombing tanks, artillery emplacements, military infrastructure, ect.

[QUOTE=plokoon9619;34896214]How long has it been since a Jet vs Jet fight in military warefare?[/QUOTE] I wonder if they still bother dogfighting nowadays, or if they just fire their missiles from 50 miles away and call it a day.

[QUOTE=Clavus;34896640]I wonder if they still bother dogfighting nowadays, or if they just fire their missiles from 50 miles away and call it a day.[/QUOTE] Longer range missiles require a RADAR lock prior to launch. The missiles themselves can cruise until just prior to reaching their target before activating their onboard RADAR for terminal guidance, but overall this method is still the most easily detected as sensors on modern aircraft are designed to recognize when they have been targeted or detected by RADAR. At closer ranges, inside 18 miles or so, you can launch heat seekers, which require no active sensors. Passive sensors can detect the IR signature of the enemy aircraft and the heat seeker can follow that signature without warning the enemy pilot until they can physically detect the missile (which is likely too late)

[QUOTE=GunFox;34896009]Hear that? That is the sound of every USAF fighter pilot tasked with air supremacy getting an erection at the thought of shooting down MiG-29's.[/QUOTE] Well that is probably the most fun they've had since I don't know...Iraq?

Aerial protection means my MOS's field. Looks like a deployment is on the horizon.

[QUOTE=shian;34896430][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e3Fu2zeido[/media][/QUOTE] Ah the good ol' days. We don't even use F-14's anymore. Sad

In other news Russian MiG's have been scrambled from the Russian carrier group over Syrian capital.

Russian carrier grou- is the Admiral Kuznetsov stationed in Syria?

I'm sure Syrians will love being oppressed by capital or Sunni terrorists more so than some crackpot dictator.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34902383]Russian carrier grou- is the Admiral Kuznetsov stationed in Syria?[/QUOTE] Yes, Russian, Syrian and Iranian navy is stationed in Syria's waters. Syria has Russian equipment so I can't see this ever happening. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=muesli23;34902411]I'm sure Syrians will love being oppressed by capital or Sunni terrorists more so than some crackpot dictator.[/QUOTE] Just like the Libyans enjoy the NTC having no power at all, they don't even control the misrata brigade. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("Yaika" - Starpluck))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Gereight;34902577] Just like the Libyans enjoy the NTC having no power at all, they don't even control the misrata brigade.[/QUOTE] Sounds to me like the 'Muj after the Soviets pulled out of the Afghan Civil War. The NTC is, and always has been, a massive running joke. On a side note, the aforementioned Misrata brigade has engaged in ethnic cleansing, without NATO saying jack shit.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;34902383]Russian carrier grou- is the Admiral Kuznetsov stationed in Syria?[/QUOTE] No, it returned to Severomorsk on February 17th after a brief deployment in the Mediterranean. There are a few ships at the Russian naval base in Tartus, but no aircraft carriers.

But tons of Russian trained land based pilots, newish russian AA.

[QUOTE=Gereight;34902577]Yes, Russian, Syrian and Iranian navy is stationed in Syria's waters. Syria has Russian equipment so I can't see this ever happening. [editline]28th February 2012[/editline] Just like the Libyans enjoy the NTC having no power at all, they don't even control the misrata brigade.[/QUOTE] Yaika?

[QUOTE=GunFox;34896009]Hear that? That is the sound of every USAF fighter pilot tasked with air supremacy getting an erection at the thought of shooting down MiG-29's.[/QUOTE] I believe you meant the MiG-28 [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Northrop_F-5E_(Tail_No._01557)_061006-F-1234S-073.jpg/300px-Northrop_F-5E_(Tail_No._01557)_061006-F-1234S-073.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=CertainDOOM;34903645]Yaika?[/QUOTE] What do you mean, Yaika is a town in east asia according to google. What is your standpoint on the matter? [url]http://www.tiptopglobe.com/city?i=194760&n=Yaika#lat=12.20000&lon=-0.80000&zoom=7[/url]

[QUOTE=Gereight;34904912]What do you mean, Yaika is a town in east asia according to google. What is your standpoint on the matter? [url]http://www.tiptopglobe.com/city?i=194760&n=Yaika#lat=12.20000&lon=-0.80000&zoom=7[/url][/QUOTE] Yaika is a ban-on-sight troll here who always spouts the same nonsense that your statements seem to point towards. I do believe he got banned for his retarded opinions.