• Father of slain Tsarnaev associate pens letter to Obama, alleges FBI deliberately killed son
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[quote]The father of Ibragim Todashev, former friend of alleged Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, has released an open letter to President Barack Obama calling for justice after his son’s murder. Todashev was killed by FBI agents in May.[/quote] [url]http://rt.com/usa/todashev-father-letter-obama-998/[/url]
Russia Today, my favorite
Alternative source saying same thing: [URL="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/12/30/ibragim-todashevs-father-writes-open-letter-obama-releases-photos-surrounding-sons-death-warning-graphic/"]http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...rning-graphic/[/URL] Not going to lie but the whole case case of Todashev (bomber's friend) seems sketch as fuck, he was meant to leave the US and go to Chechnya, but on the last day the FBI kept persisting and pushing for him to stay. Quotes below are from credible sources; not RT: [quote]"He had a ticket from New York, [and] from there, he was going to go back home. They were pushing him, saying, '[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-agent-kills-man-questioning-him-boston-marathon-114808069.html"]Stay, don't leave.' They said, 'We want to interview you one last time and talk to you a last time[/URL].' And he decided to stay, and today's interview was supposed to be the last time, and they said they were going to leave him alone," said the victim's friend, Khusen Taramov. T[URL="http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-agent-kills-man-questioning-him-boston-marathon-114808069.html"]aramiv also claims that Todashev thought that he was being "set up" and expressed concerns that something bad was going to happen to them. Taramiv says they had both been followed by the FBI[/URL] on more than one occasion since the Boston terrorist attack.[/quote] And then after 8 hours of questioning he allegedly took out a knife and tried to charge the agent before he was killed with a gunshot to the back of his head, and another 6 wounds onto his torso. If he was adamant on leaving initially, why would he just decide to put his life on the line by charging an FBI agent with a knife? Was he provoked? The general explanation would be that maybe he feared he implicated himself during the interview, but if the potential of implicating himself was present then he would've refused the interview in the first place. There also seems to be inconsistency with what really happened:[quote] [URL="http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/05/2013530151524586438.html"]US media on Wednesday quoted unamed law enforcement as stating that Todashev had lunged at an FBI agent and overturned the table, [B]but had neither a gun nor a knife[/B][/URL].[/quote] [URL="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/12/30/ibragim-todashevs-father-writes-open-letter-obama-releases-photos-surrounding-sons-death-warning-graphic/"]http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...rning-graphic/[/URL] [quote]Federal prosecutors have officially stated the government’s contention that Todashev implicated Tamerlan Tsarnaev in a 2011 triple murder in Waltham. Anonymous FBI sources also told reporters that Todashev implicated himself in those murders, along with conflicting reports about how Todashev died. In the letter, Abdul-Baki Todashev accuses FBI agents of deliberately killing and torturing his son ([B]citing bruise marks near his left eye[/B]) and threatening and deporting his son’s acquaintances. Todashev asks the president to ensure that the FBI does not interfere with the independent investigation into his son’s death. [B]Earlier this year, Todashev’s live-in girlfriend, Tatiana Gruzdeva, [URL="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/10/01/tatiana-gruzdeva-arrested-to-be-deported/"]was arrested and deported[/URL] to Moscow. ICE officials told her she was deported for [URL="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/09/20/new-details-fbi-shooting-death-tamerlan-tsarnaev-associate/"]giving [I]Boston[/I] magazine an interview[/URL].[/B] At the time of the interview, she was granted deferred action by ICE. It is unclear what the terms of her deferred action were. Ashurmamad Miraliev, a friend of Todashev, [URL="http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2013/09/25/ashurmamad-miraliev-denied-attorney-questioned-fbi/"]was denied repeated requests to an attorney[/URL] during a six-hour interrogation with the FBI after his arrest according to the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). ... Florida State Attorney Jeffrey Ashton is currently conducting an investigation into the FBI killing. Earlier this month, he released a statement saying that he recently received additional information from the United States Department of Justice and would release the findings of his report early next year.[/quote] Quote above says that FBI sources said that Todashev implicated himself in those murders, but it beyond me why someone would cave in the requests of the FBI last-minute before his flight only to admit. Even if he did so unintentionally, if he knew there would've been a risk of such during the interview then he wouldn't have complied with the FBI's repeated persistence that he stay in the first place as he was free to go..
This seems very shady. I really dislike how vague this entire situation is.
People who think law enforcement agencies are somehow bound by ethics or morals really don't know shit about the real world. These places employ some of the lowest most criminal scum on the Earth, especially in higher up positions. It's all about the money, there are so many rogue agents and agencies in the US it's not funny. Just one of the many reasons I decided not to go into law enforcement or any like occupation.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;43365011] And then after 8 hours of questioning he allegedly took out a knife and tried to charge the agent before he was killed with a gunshot [b]to the back of his head[/b], and another 6 wounds onto his torso. If he was adamant on leaving initially, why would he just decide to put his life on the line by charging an FBI agent with a knife? Was he provoked? The general explanation would be that maybe he feared he implicated himself during the interview, but if the potential of implicating himself was present then he would've refused the interview in the first place.[/QUOTE] He was [b]not[/b] shot in the "back of the head", the photos showed the only shot on his head was to the top and slightly to his left, the 'back' claims have been nothing but media sensationalism trying to make it out as an execution (not saying it was or wasn't, just saying that this particular detail was made up for that purpose).
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;43365346]He was [b]not[/b] shot in the "back of the head", the photos showed the only shot on his head was to the top and slightly to his left, the 'back' claims have been nothing but media sensationalism trying to make it out as an execution (not saying it was or wasn't, just saying that this particular detail was made up for that purpose).[/QUOTE] "He wasn't shot in the [I]back[/I] of the head, he was shot in the [I]top[/I] of the head." That doesn't really make it seem any less suspicious.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365374]"He wasn't just in the [I]back[/I] of the head, he was shot in the [I]top[/I] of the head." That doesn't really make me feel any better about it.[/QUOTE] It is actually a pretty significant difference, the only way for a person to be shot in the back of the head is if they're facing away from you, either with their back turned, or laying on the ground, but if they have their head tilted down (which you more likely than not would in the event you're charging and/or trying to headbutt someone) then it's quite possible to shoot them in the top of the head.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365374]"He wasn't shot in the [I]back[/I] of the head, he was shot in the [I]top[/I] of the head." That doesn't really make it seem any less suspicious.[/QUOTE] Tilt your head down, you can still see forward. If they can see the top of your head or you are in a lower position it is easy to hit the top of the head.
[QUOTE=deadoon;43365421]Tilt your head down, you can still see forward. If they can see the top of your head or you are in a lower position it is easy to hit the top of the head.[/QUOTE] There are other ways he could have ended up in that position. Sink low in your chair for a second and cover your face with your hands. The top of your head is probably exposed.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365467]There are other ways he could have ended up in that position. Sink low in your chair for a second and cover your face with your hands. The top of your head is probably exposed.[/QUOTE] So you admit you are biased towards him being executed? The only way to shoot someone in the back of the head is for them to be facing opposite you, you can shoot someone in the top of their head while they are facing you.
[QUOTE=deadoon;43365553]So you admit you are biased towards him being executed?[/QUOTE] No, I'm saying the fact that he was shot in the top of the head doesn't necessarily suggest that he was charging the FBI agents. And without knowing the exact trajectory of the bullet, its actually kind of stupid to speculate because there are a number of possibilities as to how he could have ended up "shot in the top of the head, slightly to his left". [editline]31st December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=deadoon;43365553]. . .you can shoot someone in the top of their head while they are facing you.[/QUOTE] Or if they are sitting and you are standing.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365745]No, I'm saying the fact that he was shot in the top of the head doesn't necessarily suggest that he was charging the FBI agents. And without knowing the exact trajectory of the bullet, its actually kind of stupid to speculate because there are a number of possibilities as to how he could have ended up "shot in the top of the head, slightly to his left". [editline]31st December 2013[/editline] Or if they are sitting and you are standing.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365374]"He wasn't shot in the [I]back[/I] of the head, he was shot in the [I]top[/I] of the head." That doesn't really make it seem any less suspicious.[/QUOTE] According to you him being shot in the top of the head is just as suspicious as the back of the head. Despite the fact you can be shot in the top of the head by the person you are attacking, or if the shooter has a higher stature or stance. How many situations where a person is the aggressor in is the back of their head exposed to the point where shooting it is a safe shot? Remember, if someone is shot in the back of the head, what they are facing is in the line of fire, meaning the shooter would be endangering the person they are attempting to protect.
[QUOTE=deadoon;43365820]According to you him being shot in the top of the head is just as suspicious as the back of the head. [/QUOTE] Its not where he was shot in the head thats suspicious to me, its that he was shot in the head at all while alone in an interrogation room with FBI agents and a couple different stories have been given as to how it happened. I don't care where exactly the bullet hole in his head is.
[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;43365467]There are other ways he could have ended up in that position. Sink low in your chair for a second and cover your face with your hands. The top of your head is probably exposed.[/QUOTE] I won't deny it is perfectly possible for the top of his head to have been exposed from some other position, but since the shot was not to the back of the head it means the FBI's statement that he lunged at them (which is a position where he would plausibly lower his head) is possible. Also in the situation you described he would have had six bullet wounds to the arms, and possibly would not have exit wounds in his back, as he was shot in the torso area before being killed with the shot to the head. While the photographs showed I think one bullet wounds to the arm, and exit wounds on his back.
Keep those tinfoil hats nice and shiny.
a lot of information policing on both ends of the spectrum. when it comes to shit like this i truly dont know who to believe.
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