Armenian Genocide film gets 55,126 1-star ratings on IMDb off just three public screenings - Polidicks

[quote]Either there are some absolutely enormous cinemas out there that I’ve somehow never heard about, or IMDb users are voting politically on The Promise without having seen it. The Terry George-directed film stars Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac and is set during the final days of the Ottoman Empire, leading up to the Armenian Genocide that killed 1.5 million. At the time of writing, it has 86,704 ratings on IMDb, 55,126 of which are one-star and 30,639 of which are 10-star, with very few ratings falling anywhere in between. The majority of votes were cast by males outside of the US. The Promise is believed to have only been screened to the public three times (we have contacted production company Survival Pictures for confirmation on this).[/quote] [URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-promise-film-christian-bale-armenian-genocide-imdb-turkey-oscar-isaac-a7378881.html"]Source[/URL] Internet Turkish Defence Force in full action it seems

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Bad source Here's one. Maybe what the OP had in mind. [url]https://www.xanianews.com/news/the-independent-comments-on-imdb-stir-over-armenian-genocide-themed-the-promise?uid=397892[/url]

[QUOTE=Rowtree;51261215]Your source points to Dark Souls 3 dlc...[/QUOTE] Goddamnit you ruined the experiment to see how many people actually read articles before posting thanks a lot

[QUOTE=thelurker1234;51261233]Goddamnit you ruined the experiment to see how many people actually read articles before posting thanks a lot[/QUOTE] This proves at least one person does, and that person is the hero SH needs, but not the one it deserves.

[QUOTE=Mastermind of42;51261216]Bad source Here's one. Maybe what the OP had in mind. [url]https://www.xanianews.com/news/the-independent-comments-on-imdb-stir-over-armenian-genocide-themed-the-promise?uid=397892[/url][/QUOTE] Hey they have the same demographic ratings as the new ghostbusters

[QUOTE=Rowtree;51261215]Your source points to Dark Souls 3 dlc...[/QUOTE] Fixed it lol, mixed up tabs

And then the Streisand effect kicks in and this tops the box office.

Nothing to see here, just a bunch of butthurt Turks.

I bet Erdogan is pissed and I hope the Streissand Effect makes this movie famous. Would be even better if it turned out to be good enough to be Oscar nominated.

[QUOTE=!LORD M!;51261407]I bet Erdogan is pissed and I hope the Streissand Effect makes this movie famous. Would be even better if it turned out to be good enough to be Oscar nominated.[/QUOTE] I actually never heard of this film under I read this thread. Christain Bale and Oscar Isaac are pretty good actors so i'll give it a shot. Chances are I wouldn't have even check this movie out if it wasnt for this so your post is spot on lol

The only two actual written user reviews with a low star rating on imdb are as follows: [QUOTE]An art with full of lies. 1/10 Author: onderalkan-74286 from Turkey 20 October 2016 THIS MOVIE MUST HAS A TITLE OF "FICTON" AT THE START. So this movie is released just to make an Armenian propaganda. Since there are not enough proofs that says genocide happens, this movie is nothing but a propaganda and a tool for manipulating people's mind to turn them against Turkish society. I couldn't make it to finish because lies were so much that I couldn't handle it. These kind of movies shouldn't be exist and those actors should be involved with better projects other than the ones with full of lies. Both Christian Bale and Oscar Isaac are talented actors and I love them to watch acting. But this movie draw me apart from seeing the talents they have. Let's not use art to make people believe groundless rumors. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Armenian producer; unilateral movie; absurd propaganda 1/10 Author: sudelale from Turkey 24 September 2016 The financing of film made by Armenians . Film history is full of lies . Facts are different. Directed by Terry George; He has damaged the credibility of the Hotel Rwanda movie. Armenians together with the Russian army, the massacres committed in the Ottoman Empire ;( Armenians treason); 600 thousand Ottoman civilians killed were not included in the film . Armenians in the Ottoman Empire were rich people. The only reason for the betrayal is orthodox alliance with the Russians. Armenians of the world with the greatest betrayal ; (together with the Russian army) ; tried to invade the Ottoman Empire. Film history lies, love trilogy and bat man; a complete freak. Turkey, in other Turkish states, 400 million Turks ; this film was found disgusting . All over the world people have to understand , Turkey is very strong. World countries if they want to see the power of the Turks, we show them. [/QUOTE] :speechless:

I mean its not like the modern state of turkey was responsible, they honestly have nothing to loose by admitting it happened and moving on but ya they gotta be quite nuts over it

[QUOTE=Sableye;51261574]I mean its not like the modern state of turkey was responsible, they honestly have nothing to loose by admitting it happened and moving on but ya they gotta be quite nuts over it[/QUOTE] Except the citizens literally think the genocide is a lie, because of the bullshit their government feeds them.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51261497]Metacritic is 40~ too. Critics seem to find it genuinely shit.[/QUOTE] It's entirely possible that it's not a good movie and Turks are just being assmad like always.

[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51261609]Except the citizens literally think the genocide is a lie, because of the bullshit their government feeds them.[/QUOTE] There seems to be quite a few that believe in the killings but believe that they were justified retaliation.

[QUOTE=Anderan;51261682]There seems to be quite a few that believe in the killings but believe that they were justified retaliation.[/QUOTE] Turks are some of the most blindly proud people I've ever met

[QUOTE=Piciul;51261762]Turks are some of the most blindly proud people I've ever met[/QUOTE] dont blame people who are victims of a propaganda machine

[QUOTE=Anderan;51261682]There seems to be quite a few that believe in the killings but believe that they were justified retaliation.[/QUOTE] Another version is that it was an armed conflict, both sides having guns etc. I mean not to deny genocide, but usually with these things its in the middle, some of the probably did have weapons and fought back, but an armed father or mother fighting for their family’s survival with grandfathers farm double barrel does not change that the turks done did them a genocide. Men were deported to labour camps and women and child separated and deported from their homes. [editline]26th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=mchapra;51261874]dont blame people who are victims of a propaganda machine[/QUOTE] Why not? they choose to drink the coolaid... there’s enough sources out there to see a balanced picture.

To be fair the Turks have a long history of blind pride.

Some countries are very ready to deny the fact that they committed genocide - a guy I know, who by all accounts is a pretty nice guy, dismissed the Bosnian genocide on the grounds that "it was all men and boys you know, potential soldiers". Totally gross.

Always found it rather depressing that some countries go so much out of their way to deny such events in their past. It's not like they'd lose anything by admitting to it, except for the fantasy of their country being always in the right. Can one really claim to love their country if what they love is a whitewashed fabrication? It's not like that, by admitting it, they'd be losing out on the global moral high-horse game or something; pretty much every country has some awful history. Finland had some grim moments, particularly the truly godawful conditions of the post-civil war prison camps, but I don't see anyone here denying they existed; at worst some are simply not aware it happened.

This is the funniest bit. [IMG]https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_medium/public/thumbnails/image/2016/10/25/09/screen-shot-2016-10-25-at-09.12.32.jpg[/IMG] 30k 10 stars reviews and 50k 1 star reviews, but less then 1000 reviews of any other number of stars in reviews combined? I think Turkish and Armenian bots are in a war. [editline]26th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=nox;51261389]And then the Streisand effect kicks in and this tops the box office.[/QUOTE] Streisand effects doesn't fit in this case.

The funniest thing is that either side cares enough about this to make tens of thousands of votes on IMDB. Doesn't people have anything better to do?

[QUOTE=mchapra;51261874]dont blame people who are victims of a propaganda machine[/QUOTE] Sorry, but I don't think so. A person chooses to believe what they're told, they choose to be patriotic or not, to trust their government or not. Would you put the blame on a criminal's education and tough upbringing, instead of their own will? Of course it has a hand to play in it, but in the end, you will still have the choice. Many Turks in modern Turkey have chosen not to believe their government.

[hd]https://youtu.be/zwut1DUXaZc[/hd] Honestly the movie looks incredible They disabled ratings and comments on the video btw [editline]26th October 2016[/editline] [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_d8Jzt2heE"]Here is a reupload[/URL] that has both comments and ratings, the comments are [I]pure fucking cancer[/I]

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;51262387]Always found it rather depressing that some countries go so much out of their way to deny such events in their past. It's not like they'd lose anything by admitting to it, except for the fantasy of their country being always in the right. Can one really claim to love their country if what they love is a whitewashed fabrication? It's not like that, by admitting it, they'd be losing out on the global moral high-horse game or something; pretty much every country has some awful history. Finland had some grim moments, particularly the truly godawful conditions of the post-civil war prison camps, but I don't see anyone here denying they existed; at worst some are simply not aware it happened.[/QUOTE] Some states in the US go to lengths to rewrite or deny parts of their own history as well, examples im aware of include tulsa race riot where you'd think a bunch of racist lunatics bombing the black neighborhood of town from biplanes would be textbook worthy but nooo. There's lots of instances where various school boards, mainly the texas board due to their size and power ends up having history removed or rewritten in textbooks.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;51262498]Sorry, but I don't think so. A person chooses to believe what they're told, they choose to be patriotic or not, to trust their government or not. Would you put the blame on a criminal's education and tough upbringing, instead of their own will? Of course it has a hand to play in it, but in the end, you will still have the choice. Many Turks in modern Turkey have chosen not to believe their government.[/QUOTE] True. But a child who has been told to believe something all their life wouldn't know better, or wouldn't think to question it.

[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51262504]Try "a child", and not that many. They simply dont really care.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=mchapra;51262576]True. But a child who has been told to believe something all their life wouldn't know better, or wouldn't think to question it.[/QUOTE] Come on guys, stop comparing the Turks to a bunch of children. That's disrespectful and you should know better than that. They're grown ups and the choice is up to them.

[QUOTE=Loadingue;51262593]Come on guys, stop comparing the Turks to a bunch of children. That's disrespectful and you should know better than that. They're grown ups and the choice is up to them.[/QUOTE] I didn't mean it that way at all. I meant if someone's been pushed into a belief at a young age, it is harder to accept evidence against it when they're older.