Chrome to get new compression algo: Brotli , "20-26% faster page loading" - Polidicks

[url]http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/google-s-plan-to-make-chrome-faster-and-more-efficient-1313455?utm_content=buffer7a36f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer[/url] [url]http://time.com/4187448/google-chrome-update-brotli/[/url] [QUOTE]Google’s latest compression algorithm, called Brotli, will likely launch in the next stable Chrome release, Google Web performance engineer Ilya Grigorik posted on Google+ Tuesday. Google first unveiled Brotli back in September, but provided no details as to when the upgrade would be available at that time.[/QUOTE]

and 40% more memory usage! i'm kidding but chrome has been known for hiding its flaws

Hot damn I just tried it on Canary and it's seriously noticeable. Especially loading threads on FP that are very image heavy.

The compression sometimes fucked up certain images last time I used it, dunno if that's better now? I don't even remember what it did, I just know I had to turn it off because it was doing something wrong

Headline suggests this is an extremely new Chrome feature when Firefox 44 (the next major update) will support the same compression. [QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49573087]Hot damn I just tried it on Canary and it's seriously noticeable. Especially loading threads on FP that are very image heavy.[/QUOTE] I don't think FP serves brotli compressed content unless something extremely recently changed, any speedups you get from loading it on Canary is strictly from other improvements.

[QUOTE=Joeyl10;49573822]Headline suggests this is an extremely new Chrome feature when Firefox 44 (the next major update) will support the same compression.[/QUOTE] [quote]Google has opened sourced Brotli, which means other technology companies will be able to incorporate the algorithm into their browsers as well.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sableye;49573077]and 40% more memory usage! i'm kidding but chrome has been known for hiding its flaws[/QUOTE] It's pretty sad though that part of the reason I upped to a 16GB rig was so that I could use Chrome and not have to worry about opening a bunch of other programs at the same time

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49574068]It's pretty sad though that part of the reason I upped to a 16GB rig was so that I could use Chrome and not have to worry about opening a bunch of other programs at the same time[/QUOTE] I know chrome is rough here and there but how many extensions / tabs do you have open

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49573087]Hot damn I just tried it on Canary and it's seriously noticeable. Especially loading threads on FP that are very image heavy.[/QUOTE] Stop trying it on with me, please.

[QUOTE=Snickerdoodle;49574068]It's pretty sad though that part of the reason I upped to a 16GB rig was so that I could use Chrome and not have to worry about opening a bunch of other programs at the same time[/QUOTE] I have chrome open on youtube and facebook while playing games or using maya all the time, and I only have 8gb ram. Cant imagine what youre doing.

[QUOTE=spazthemax;49574419]I have chrome open on youtube and facebook while playing games or using maya all the time, and I only have 8gb ram. Cant imagine what youre doing.[/QUOTE] Probably nothing much, people get freaked out seeing high RAM usage because in the past, running out of RAM was a big concern if the pagefile ended up being used and slowing your computer down. Computers have a lot of RAM these days and use it very efficiently for the most part. And since unused memory is wasted memory, a lot of extra RAM is used for cache to increase efficiency. So high ram usage isn't bad unless a program is fucking up and having a memory leak or something.

Oh no a program is using random access memory like it should, wtf I want that un-used at all times!!

I'm still getting constant spdy protocol errors and have not found a permanent solution so I can't wait for this to not work as intended either.

but will Chromium get it?

[QUOTE=dark-vivec;49574573]Probably nothing much, people get freaked out seeing high RAM usage because in the past, running out of RAM was a big concern if the pagefile ended up being used and slowing your computer down. Computers have a lot of RAM these days and use it very efficiently for the most part. And since unused memory is wasted memory, a lot of extra RAM is used for cache to increase efficiency. So high ram usage isn't bad unless a program is fucking up and having a memory leak or something.[/QUOTE] I dunno, when my game is constantly stuttering from page file access if my browser is also open maybe there is an issue with RAM since it's never happened after I got more? Now since there's so much Windows shoves like 12 GiB of files into RAM as a cache. My brother can't run Chrome and HoTS at the same time or it stutters all the time. But I guess he's just scared of high RAM usage and closing Chrome stopping the stuttering is just a placebo? Windows is also really zealous about shoving shit into swap, even with 20/24 GiB of RAM free it was still swapping to disk so I just turned it off completely because my harddrive is loud as fuck on random access.

[QUOTE=helifreak;49574960]I dunno, when my game is constantly stuttering from page file access if my browser is also open maybe there is an issue with RAM since it's never happened after I got more? Now since there's so much Windows shoves like 12 GiB of files into RAM as a cache. My brother can't run Chrome and HoTS at the same time or it stutters all the time. But I guess he's just scared of high RAM usage and closing Chrome stopping the stuttering is just a placebo? Windows is also really zealous about shoving shit into swap, even with 20/24 GiB of RAM free it was still swapping to disk so I just turned it off completely because my harddrive is loud as fuck on random access.[/QUOTE] The browser problem stems more from browser cache (which will always go to the HDD) and CPU use from Javascript/plugins in my experience. So I always have Flash set on ask to run. However, you aren't wrong that adding more RAM may have helped, since Windows can move more files into cache so it has to access the HDD less frequently for background services and such.

[QUOTE=helifreak;49574960]I dunno, when my game is constantly stuttering from page file access if my browser is also open maybe there is an issue with RAM since it's never happened after I got more? Now since there's so much Windows shoves like 12 GiB of files into RAM as a cache. My brother can't run Chrome and HoTS at the same time or it stutters all the time. But I guess he's just scared of high RAM usage and closing Chrome stopping the stuttering is just a placebo? Windows is also really zealous about shoving shit into swap, even with 20/24 GiB of RAM free it was still swapping to disk so I just turned it off completely because my harddrive is loud as fuck on random access.[/QUOTE] I didn't turn mine off completely but made it like 1GB on my SSD. For playing intensive games, yeah closing chrome probably helps.

[QUOTE=Plattack;49574688]I'm still getting constant spdy protocol errors and have not found a permanent solution so I can't wait for this to not work as intended either.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a banking trojan is messing with your browser.

How do people not understand that Chrome uses as much memory as it's allowed to? Chrome uses a fuckton of prefetching and behavior prediction to speed shit up, but if you don't have enough open RAM, it doesn't do these things. Chrome quite happily cedes memory usage to whatever other programs ask for it. If you have 1GB open, Chrome will use all of it. If you have 16, Chrome will use all of it. That's just how Chrome is. It's designed that way and there's nothing wrong with it.

[QUOTE=Plattack;49574688]I'm still getting constant spdy protocol errors and have not found a permanent solution so I can't wait for this to not work as intended either.[/QUOTE] I have never once seen a SPDY error while using Chrome and I work with sites that use it everyday. Sounds like you have something else messing with it here.

free ram is wasted ram tia

[QUOTE=DrogenViech;49579197]free ram is wasted ram tia[/QUOTE] Whilst I agree people should be aiming to use as little ram as possible to allow more things to be done at once. Free ram is indeed wasted, but so is ram allocated to a web browser when it could be using half of that.

[QUOTE=Plattack;49574688]I'm still getting constant spdy protocol errors and have not found a permanent solution so I can't wait for this to not work as intended either.[/QUOTE] If by any chance you have Avast! running, disable HTTPS Scanning in the webshield.

Pretty much every browser is a massive memory hog these days, but in a time where most people have 4 GB of RAM or more, it's pretty much become a non-issue. It's always hilarious when people with huge amounts of memory are complaining when something like Chrome is maybe using 512 MB of it. Because God forbid you lose half a GB of your 32 GB of RAM browsing Facepunch. If memory usage is really a major concern for you, then your best bet is to actually use the native browser on your OS (IE/Edge for Windows, Safari for OS X) and to not use any extensions at all. Especially any adblockers, because those eat up shitloads of memory. As for these changes to Chrome, it's definitely nice, and I hope it gets implemented in the Blink layout engine in general. That way, other Blink based browsers (namely Vivaldi) can benefit from it as well. [QUOTE=Amiga OS;49579655]SJWs complained about this because the content encoding header type is "bro" and its mysogynist. It is now "br"[/QUOTE] Oh, so now it's making fun of Brazilians, and yet it's ok?:v: I really don't get why they choose to get upset over programming shit. Maybe because nobody else cares, so it's one of the only battles they can win?

What kinda name is brotli?

Apparently brotli is named after [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanisch_Br%C3%B6tli[/url]

[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49573087]Hot damn I just tried it on Canary and it's seriously noticeable. Especially loading threads on FP that are very image heavy.[/QUOTE] I don't know how Chrome does that.. aren't server supposed to support this compression algorithm too?

Brötli means little bread or bun in swiss german.

This wouldn't be necessary if sites didn't have 50 scripts and trackers running, seriously site loading got slower since broadband was introduced from this. On top of that there's 20 CDN's for each page, some really slow and then the page skips around, wtf. Take a look at CPU usage sometime while loading a page, we're trying to brute our way though clusterfucks of webpages with compression and fast processors, [I]and it's still slow.[/I]

[QUOTE=Amiga OS;49591612]Developers need to stop using JavaScript. I feel dirty every time I have to fall back to using it.[/QUOTE] You realize that many websites can't function without JavaScript, right