Australians who pirate movies and tv shows won't be slugged with harsh punishments, but instead bloc - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The new laws, developed by Attorney-General, George Brandis, and Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, will be presented to parliament today, Fairfax Media reports. It is understood Mr Brandis and Mr Turnbull's joint submission argues that internet providers and rights holders should work together on a code of conduct. The code would include a scheme in which repeat illegal downloaders are issued warning notices that they are breaching copyright. Labor is yet to announce its position on online copyright breaches. "I think we need to look at practical measures of which there is some evidence of them working somewhere in the world," Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus told Fairfax Media. "The government should look to do what it can to assist in what is a real problem. "We have a very high rate of internet piracy in Australia, particular in film and TV product. At the same time – and Malcolm Turnbull himself has commented on this – I think we need to see more being done to make content more readily and more cheaply available. That's not something the government can be responsible for." Film distributor Village Roadshow last month took a first step to counter illegal downloads by promising to slash the price of its rental and sales titles. The company said it will slash the price of some of the films in its digital rental and sales businesses to encourage people to pay for content. The distributor has been a strong advocate for cracking down on legal downloading however has faced fierce public criticism for the cost and delay of content to Australian audiences. "We always think the Australian - digital market is a couple of years behind the US in regards to consumer take-up," Village Roadshow Entertainment managing director Chris Chard said at the time. "So we doing everything we can to make sure the Australian consumer is encouraged to buy digital, - particularly in that rental space."[/QUOTE] [url]http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8937424/illegal-downloaders-to-be-blocked-under-reforms[/url]

[quote]"We have a very high rate of internet piracy in Australia, particular in film and TV product. At the same time – and Malcolm Turnbull himself has commented on this – I think we need to see more being done to make content more readily and more cheaply available. That's not something the government can be responsible for."[/quote] They can't be responsible for getting us the content, but they're perfectly willing to punish people who go around them.

If all of the content providers weren't constantly fucking Australia in the ass, I think more consumers may be willing to stop pirating stuff, but that'll never happen because $$PROFITS$$.

Whenever a government starts blocking websites like that, I can't help but feel like it's a win for us - think about it - they have their legislation so they're happy, we use our proxies, so we're happy. I'd rather have that than some changes that actually... You know... Do something.

Since Netflix announced they were coming down, Murdoch got off his arse and is launching a similar service early 2015.

"Okay guys, we've forced every ISP to log all metadata from all the users. We'll be able to start cracking down on all the pirates. The data should arrive shortly from being analyzed" "It's here sir." "Alright, lets catch some crooks, how many people are on the list?" "20 million, give or take." "Hm. Maybe jail time and fines will be too much."

[QUOTE=Bradyns;46674392]Since Netflix announced they were coming down, Murdoch got off his arse and is launching a similar service early 2015.[/QUOTE] Yeah, funny how that happens. They drag their feet for years, and as soon as they get a competitor they suddenly have a service they want to sell us.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;46674392]Since Netflix announced they were coming down, Murdoch got off his arse and is launching a similar service early 2015.[/QUOTE] Unless it's cheaper foxtel, like way less for every channel and package and still Telstra unmetred than fuck no

do these people not realize that magnet links exist?

More hoops to jump = More piracy Less hoops to jump = Less piracy Why does every cooperation want to make things more difficult to "Proove our loyalty"?

maybe australia should get a law that make them not go after people who pirate stuff not officially availible in australia. That would save their legal system a lot of trouble, and encourage the big movie and tv business to expand their horizons beyond america.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;46674494]Unless it's cheaper foxtel, like way less for every channel and package and still Telstra unmetred than fuck no[/QUOTE]Yeah, who wants to watch fucking American reality crap like Coupon Kings and repeats of really bad sitcoms? Just change your stupid 1995 business model, Foxtel.

I won't stop pirating until all films and series are released simultaneously world-wide with absolute ease of access. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Warez" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

The Netherlands stopped blocking The Pirate Bay because people would just use proxies anyway.

[QUOTE=Ellistron;46674532]do these people not realize that magnet links exist?[/QUOTE] That doesn't help you when you can't get them.

[quote]What the fuck is a proxy?[/quote] Something that won't help you if your ISP is monitoring the traffic going to your house. A proxy can hide the originator of the traffic but not its content or destination and at the ISP level it's pretty easy to see where a packet came from. You'll need encrypted traffic or a service like Tor.

[QUOTE=catbarf;46675153]Something that won't help you if your ISP is monitoring the traffic going to your house. A proxy can hide the originator of the traffic but not its content or destination and at the ISP level it's pretty easy to see where a packet came from. You'll need encrypted traffic or a service like Tor.[/QUOTE] The point is that the Australian government is planning to block piracy sites, something that can be circumvented by any proxy that's not on the block list itself and has access to those sites, unless they use some advanced DPI shit.

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;46674951]That doesn't help you when you can't get them.[/QUOTE] You still can. Actually there is this torrent client that use gossip technology that makes it to have its own search engine. This can be seen as the ultimate decentralized P2P filesharing tech, with only 1 small problem: Fresh content isn't there

And nobody is surprised. The Government whether it be Coalition or Labor have been trying to censor the internet for a decade, good thing it's just a waste of time and will give them a false sense of security once they impose this.

[QUOTE=Tasm;46675970]And nobody is surprised. The Government whether it be Coalition or Labor have been trying to censor the internet for a decade, good thing it's just a waste of time and will give them a false sense of security once they impose this.[/QUOTE] least this proposed legislation absolutely ignores circumventing the dumb block [editline]10th December 2014[/editline] but knowing internet censorship has always been shot down in this country, I doubt it'll pass

[quote]"We always think the Australian - digital market is a couple of years behind the US in regards to consumer take-up," Village Roadshow Entertainment managing director Chris Chard said at the time.[/quote] And what is this supposed to mean? Is he saying hes delaying it because we need to catch up, or hes delaying it because he thinks we don't accept digital stuff?