[QUOTE]A pistol in the hands of a 4-year-old boy went off during a weekend cookout, killing the wife of a Tennessee sheriff's deputy who was showing his guns to a relative, state police said Monday.
No one saw the boy pick up the weapon before the shooting, which occurred Saturday night in Lebanon, east of Nashville, Tennessee Bureau of Investigation spokeswoman Kristin Helm said. The single shot killed 47-year-old Josephine Fanning, the wife of Wilson County Sheriff's Deputy Daniel Fanning.
The couple were hosting family and friends at their house when Daniel Fanning and a relative went into a bedroom to check out some of Fanning's guns, Helm said. Josephine Fanning and the boy walked into the room later, and at some point the boy picked the loaded pistol up off the bed.
Helm said she wasn't sure of the relationship between the boy and the Fannings. The TBI, which investigates incidents involving law enforcement officers, is still conducting its probe, and no charges have been filed.
The gun involved was Fanning's personal weapon, not his service pistol, she said.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/08/us/tennessee-gun-death/index.html?sr=fb040913tennesseecookout10a[/URL]
Damn, that's a sad story. This is why you keep your weapons unloaded and safely locked up, folks.
[t]http://puu.sh/2wSvR[/t]
Took the words out of my mouth.
With all the stories you hear about this sort of thing, you'd think people would learn by now.
[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;40219015]Damn, that's a sad story. This is why you keep your weapons unloaded and safely locked up, folks.[/QUOTE]
And especially, hidden.
Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;40219163]Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.[/QUOTE]
Kids are not that stupid.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;40219163]And especially, not hidden.
Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.[/QUOTE]
Until the child goes searching through their parents wardrobe playing dressup and finds it.
Safety training is better I think. Though 4 is too young for that. The idiot shouldn't have left a gun unattended in the presence of a 4yo
[QUOTE=ksenior;40219213]Until the child goes searching through their parents wardrobe playing dressup and finds it.
Safety training is better I think. Though 4 is too young for that. The idiot shouldn't have left a gun unattended in the presence of a 4yo[/QUOTE]
Or if you have kids you might want to invest in a gun safe for both your children and your own safety. Choosing to pay 400 for a decent safe or be at risk of burying your own child is a very easy choice
[QUOTE=DMGaina;40219163]And especially, not hidden.
Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.[/QUOTE]
So you say that weapons shouldn't be hidden, and that kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or that it even exists in the house.
Kinda contradicting, don't you think?
Keeping weapons loaded
Dumb move
Oh wonderful. My hometown makes the news for stupid bullshit like this.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;40219163]And especially, not hidden.
Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.[/QUOTE]
yes, lets keep the weapons out in the open but not let kids know that they're there, and not teach them proper gun safety
fucking brilliant.
Only time a child should have a gun is at a firing range with parent supervision(Mind you their off age and under stand it's danger). Child and the gun under should of never came in contact with one another. They are some very irresponsible parents for keeping a loaded gun in the house with a child that young. Just one of those things waiting to happen.
From the headline I had assumed the child had smashed his mother's face in with a frying pan
I was not expecting bullets.
This kid did not live there, according to the story I read.
So 'teach the kid about guns' doesn't apply here since it wasn't the gun and homeowner's kid.
I think there are lessons to learn here though. One, there needs to be coordination between adults when very young children are involved. In this case, if the husband had simply informed the wife "I'm gonna be showing Jeb my guns in the bedroom" the wife could have kept the kid away.
Second, supervision in general is needed with very young children. How a kid could walk into a bedroom full of adults and grab the gun on the bed AND shoot someone with it is a good question. All these adults were probably talking to each other and ignored the kid. The woman who brought the kid into the bedroom, she's ultimately responsible for what he did in that regard.
For the gun owner, you can't leave your firearms laying around when you have company over. No, no one has a right to mess with your stuff, but what about kids? You can't predict what they'll do. If you take a gun out, that thing better not leave the sight or control of an adult till you put it away again.
"Woman killed by 4-year-old Tennessee Coconut"
I'm too tired for reading
[QUOTE=Aide;40220322]Only time a child should have a gun is at a firing range with parent supervision(Mind you their off age and under stand it's danger). Child and the gun under should of never came in contact with one another. They are some very irresponsible parents for keeping a loaded gun in the house with a child that young. Just one of those things waiting to happen.[/QUOTE]
The owner of the firearm always kept his guns locked away in a safe. The child that shot the woman was not a resident of the home he was in or even related to the firearms owner. The firearms owner was showing his buddy his firearms and laid one on the bed, the toddler apparently sneaked into the room and grabbed the gun.
[QUOTE=DMGaina;40219163]And especially, not hidden.
Kids shouldn't know where to find a gun or even know that it exists in their house.[/QUOTE]
If anyone in your house owns a gun, everyone old enough to speak and understand who lives there should be required to take some sort of gun safety course. Not saying you're wrong at all though, but that wouldn't have stopped this.
I always presumed like
triggers would be difficult physically for a four year old to pull
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;40221658]I always presumed like
triggers would be difficult physically for a four year old to pull[/QUOTE]
Have you fired a wide variety of guns? I have and trigger pull varies depending on the make/model of the gun. That's not even taking into consideration the fact that trigger pull can be modified, to make for smoother action.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;40221705]Have you fired a wide variety of guns? I have and trigger pull varies depending on the make/model of the gun. That's not even taking into consideration the fact that trigger pull can be modified, to make for smoother action.[/QUOTE]
I live in the uk and have only seen a real gun in person once in my entire life
so no
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;40221798]I live in the uk and have only seen a real gun in person once in my entire life
so no[/QUOTE]
The trigger pull on a pistol is usually between two to five pounds
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;40219674]yes, lets keep the weapons out in the open but not let kids know that they're there, and not teach them proper gun safety
fucking brilliant.[/QUOTE]
A more brilliant person could smell this typo from 8 miles away.
You on the other hand commented it.
Kids should not know where to find a weapon and EVEN BETTER! A 4 years old should not know that this gun does even exists.
Brilliant, eh?
[QUOTE=Mellowbloom;40221798]I live in the uk and have only seen a real gun in person once in my entire life
so no[/QUOTE]
I see. Well, trigger pulls can be surprisingly light, because with a lot of guns you are not doing anything more strenuous than flipping a switch really.
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