Shooting in Savannah, GA Yesterday, Nobody Talking About It - Polidicks

[quote]There were two mass shootings in the U.S. on Wednesday. But the first—a shooting in Savannah, Georgia, that left one person dead and three others injured—recieved remarkably little media attention. And until the Washington Post covered it, the shooting had only been covered by one local media organization. It is all too common that mass shooting go largely unreported by the mainstream media in America. As ATTN: recently wrote, the shooting in San Bernardino marked the 355th mass shooting in the country this year. The Savannah shooting simply failed to garner national attention by media organizations.[/quote] [url]http://www.attn.com/stories/4489/savannah-georgia-shooting-coverage-and-san-bernardino?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=internal[/url] Dont normally post news, but a guy I went to college with was injured in this and I hadn't seen it posted here yet. Later in the day yesterday news outlets seemed to pick up on the fact that this wasn't getting reported other than locally.

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[quote] As ATTN: recently wrote, the shooting in San Bernardino marked the 355th mass shooting in the country this year.[/quote] And continues to be a meaningless and vague benchmark.

[QUOTE=download;49235021]And continues to be a meaningless and vague benchmark.[/QUOTE] It's extremely meaningful when you compare it to the single digits that you find in other civilized nations.

[QUOTE=Stopper;49235116]It's extremely meaningful when you compare it to the single digits that you find in other civilized nations.[/QUOTE] And we're off

[QUOTE=mcgrath618;49235121]And we're off[/QUOTE] I'm curious; which side of the argument are you on?

cmon now this divisiveness does nothing to help. we should feel for the people involved in these events and approach discussions for solving the problem [I]for them[/I].

It's too late to go the direction of Australia and England. Even if all the law abiding citizens gave up their legally owned firearms, there's still many thousands on the street in the hands of people who don't give a shit about the law in the first place. New York confiscated over 2,000 used in crimes in 2014 alone. There's almost no point in even talking about it

Another shooting in the US. Wow. At this point, unfortunately I don't see how this is newsworthy -- it'd be considered newsworthy if there *weren't* any shootings for a while.

[QUOTE=download;49235021]And continues to be a meaningless and vague benchmark.[/QUOTE] "The death of one is a tragedy. The death of millions, a statistic." - Joseph Stalin [editline]3rd December 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Pretiacruento;49235282]Another shooting in the US. Wow. At this point, unfortunately I don't see how this is newsworthy -- it'd be considered newsworthy if there *weren't* any shootings for a while.[/QUOTE] I dream of the day when I can watch the news and hear "It's officially been 20 years since America has suffered a mass-shooting event".

If you reported every time a person was shot and killed in the US, we would need a separate sub forum. The news link in your source doesn't even give a motive.

Maybe no one's freaking out about it because it was one fatality and three with minor injuries?? Not one single article about this "mass shooting" has anything to say about it, it has a brief mention of evil slaughter murder genocide!!! and then it goes back to talking about the CA shooting. This is just filler for WaPo's incredibly sensationalist "mass shooting counter" and nothing more No shit you're going to have a ton of "mass shootings" when you lower the threshold for what's considered "mass". If we consider mass shootings to be "a gun is fired within five miles of any living creature human or otherwise", we're totally in the middle of the greatest shooting epidemic in history!!!

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49235498] I dream of the day when I can watch the news and hear "It's officially been 20 years since America has suffered a mass-shooting event".[/QUOTE] Will never happen because a "mass shooting" is a shooting where at least 3 people are shot iirc, and that happens pretty much everyday in crime ridden cities. New York City celebrates days they [I]don't[/I] have a shooting victim.

You can't just change a country's culture because you don't like it. Trust me, we've tried.

[QUOTE=OvB;49235542]Will never happen because a "mass shooting" is a shooting where at least 3 people are shot iirc, and that happens pretty much everyday in crime ridden cities. New York City celebrates days they [I]don't[/I] have a shooting victim.[/QUOTE] It can happen but would take decades of lifting people out of poverty and education that instills strong values of respect for life.

[QUOTE]There were two mass shootings in the U.S. on Wednesday. But the first—a shooting in Savannah, Georgia, that left one person dead and three others injured—recieved remarkably little media attention. [/QUOTE] Why are they surprised? 17 dead and 12+ wounded versus 1 dead, 3 wounded. The bigger the event, the more coverage, combined with the fact that they happened on the same day...

This was [I]a shooting.[/I] You don't get to count it with Columbine and VT. Nothing was 'mass' about it.

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49235498]"The death of one is a tragedy. The death of millions, a statistic." - Joseph Stalin [editline]3rd December 2015[/editline] I dream of the day when I can watch the news and hear "It's officially been 20 years since America has suffered a mass-shooting event".[/QUOTE] That's not a real Stalin quote. It's from a fictional book. At this point facepunch should quarantine all gun talk to a megathread.

Not the firearms megathread, if you please. That thread isn't for political discussion. Otherwise not a bad idea if regulated.

[QUOTE=Grenadiac;49235993]Not the firearms megathread, if you please. That thread isn't for political discussion. Otherwise not a bad idea if regulated.[/QUOTE] We both know that absolutely nothing would come from it except for people being banned for flaming and shitposting.

[QUOTE=SirKillsAlot;49236012]We both know that absolutely nothing would come from it except for people being banned for flaming and shitposting.[/QUOTE] So exactly the same as it is now just in a single thread?

[QUOTE=plunger435;49235986]That's not a real Stalin quote. It's from a fictional book. At this point facepunch should quarantine all gun talk to a megathread.[/QUOTE] It's irrelevant where the quote originated if it still holds a harsh truth, no?

[QUOTE=Zero-Point;49236041]It's irrelevant where the quote originated if it still holds a harsh truth, no?[/QUOTE] I don't know anyone besides psychopaths that look at s million people dead and don't think it's s tragedy.

[QUOTE=plunger435;49236075]I don't know anyone besides psychopaths that look at s million people dead and don't think it's s tragedy.[/QUOTE] a million people dead is also on a scale that is difficult to comprehend so it is more like a statistic in that regard

The thing with mass shootings is that here in America, we may have an increase of frequency of shootings, usually there are very little lives lost. Where as other countries have rare shootings, but they have way more casualties. Point being, there has to be good middle ground. We can't be black and white with this issue anymore. Everyone should have guns and nobody should have guns are both arguments that have been proven to not work, so we must provide alternatives.

[QUOTE=Stopper;49235116]It's extremely meaningful when you compare it to the single digits that you find in other civilized nations.[/QUOTE] [url]http://archive.is/f4gbv[/url]

heres how i see it, right every single day in the us, a few people are going to be killed by guns. this is inevitable considering the size of the country, the population, and the amount of firearms we have circulating around. what concerns me is less of "who got killed today?", but more "are organized massacres going to start being a real regular problem?". I'm definitely going to be more concerned about leading myself into a high-profile target area, thinking that a team of heavily armed terrorists are going to start shooting up the place.

[QUOTE=download;49235021]And continues to be a meaningless and vague benchmark.[/QUOTE] Yikes... that's a pretty sick thing to say no matter what side you're on. [QUOTE=TheTalon;49235235]It's too late to go the direction of Australia and England. Even if all the law abiding citizens gave up their legally owned firearms, there's still many thousands on the street in the hands of people who don't give a shit about the law in the first place. New York confiscated over 2,000 used in crimes in 2014 alone. There's almost no point in even talking about it[/QUOTE] It's never too late, it'd just take way longer to be effective. The end result of restricting firearms use (which by the way doesn't mean taking everyone's guns away!!) is that less guns are out on the streets. The point at which less guns are being sold to irresponsible users is the point where there's less guns for people to traffic, the traffickers need to get their guns from somewhere and the less guns being sold the less people they have to get them from. It took 20 years to see the effect of anti-smoking campaigns, even if it takes the same for guns wouldn't it be worth it? Again, it totally doesn't need to mean taking away any guns from a responsible user. Just a proper licensing/training program could do wonders.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;49235593]It can happen but would take decades of lifting people out of poverty and education that instills strong values of respect for life.[/QUOTE] this is what we should be doing, anyways, it will fix like 80% of the problems in this country

Did the time those cops in front of the empire state building manage to hit 9 bystanders also count as a "mass shooting" even though only the suspect and and suspect's victim were killed? If a gang member targets only a rival in a drive by and accidently grazes a kid in the leg, is that a mass shooting? People are making it seem like we have kill teams of disaffected teens casually mowing down toddlers every day, when most non-suicidal gun deaths are caused by organized crime to other gang members