Top Gear loses a third of its audience by second episode
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[quote]The audience for the latest episode of Top Gear dropped by more than a third, compared with last week's series debut.
An average of 2.8 million viewers tuned in to the second instalment of the new series on Sunday evening - 1.6 million fewer than the first episode.
Viewing peaked at 3.3 million just before the BBC Two show ended, overnight figures show.
Presenter Chris Evans said viewing figures would be higher when on-demand services were taken into account.
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chris evans sounds like the most insecure teenager in the world right now
Isn't that at least a little typical though?
After the hype of the first episode, generally the second episode is less viewed, right?
Of course that's not to say that the margin is larger in this case, and Chris Evans is definitely insecure sounding.
It seems like everyone wants this show to die, but the bbc wont let go.
Like, no one seems to be surprised it's doing badly, and kind of want it to.
[QUOTE=Barcock;50464663]Isn't that at least a little typical though?
After the hype of the first episode, generally the second episode is less viewed, right?
Of course that's not to say that the margin is larger in this case, and Chris Evans is definitely insecure sounding.[/QUOTE]
Going by wikipedia the listed viewers in the previous seasons seemed almost random. Sometimes the count would increase for the second episode.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Top_Gear_episodes#Series_22_.282014.E2.80.9315.29[/url]
Regardless of Evans quoting on demand etc the original was averaging 6.5 million when the last series aired.
Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
I certainly don't think it's as bad as it's being made out to be.
Formula is the same with different presenters who aren't as quirky at Clarkson and co.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
I tried to watch the first episode but had to stop half way through. Matt LeBlanc was decent but Chris Evans was annoying as fuck.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? [/QUOTE]
No, but i think people excpected WAY too much (me included)
it's just... Meh.
the opening show was about what i expect from late in a series when the audiance is already slipping away
[del]Joey[/del] Matt le blanc is the BEST part of this show now he should be in more things
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
Evans is a terrible host. His jokes are bad at best and downright spine shattering cringy at worst. That and he screams a lot. It is only entertaining if you enjoy cringe comedy. Matt is the polar opposite but not enough to make the show decent.
[QUOTE=geogzm;50464628]chris evans sounds like the most insecure teenager in the world right now[/QUOTE]
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Watched the second episode on iplayer couple hours ago.
Pretty shit imo
Matt was alright though
This will go down just like the revival of "Wetten dass?" (Used to be a popular show in German TV) after Thomas Gottschalk left.
Just like with Top Gear, the host is what made the show. When they tried to replace him, fewer and fewer people watched it, and each episode was more embarrassing than the last. Eventually they decided to axe it.
these poor guys r prolly huge top gear fans and have always wanted to host the show and they got their chance and its just not working out
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
The trouble is Matt LeBlanc and Chris Evans don't have the same chemistry. Even if this was a totally separate show from Clarkson, Hammond and May's Top Gear, this is a bit of a problem. It's like Conan O'brien and Andy Richter having zero chemistry, watching them play off each other is kind of stilted. Matt LeBlanc is entertaining but Chris Evans is a little too enthusiastic for his own good. I don't know if that was what he was like on his daytime radio show, but it just doesn't translate well on camera. And Sabine is plain underused here.
Really, if the BBC wanted to recapture the magic of the original guys, they should have gotten Stephen Fry and Alan Davies, or Steve Coogan and Rob Bridon. They all have chemistry and can play off each other because they know each other. LeBlanc and Evans don't. It might smooth out by next season, but the way things are going, I don't know if Evans or Top Gear itself will be coming back.
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That said, the car challenges are still pretty interesting. The one between the Willys Jeep and the Land Rover was pretty cool
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
Top Gear isn't a motoring show. Top Gear is Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond cocking about with cars.
You remove Clarkson, May, Hammond, you remove what made the show good. That's why none of the international spinoffs have done very well, that's why the BBC zombie is stumbling around half-dead, why the Grand Tour is going to pretty much hit the ground with the same ratings TG had before Clarkson's sacking. Those three are as integral to the show as you can get.
Some of it is, yes, us fans being bitter. But that's not going to account for the sheer amount of hate it's getting. The Beeb has forcibly removed one of the key aspects of the show, hastily tried to duct tape in a replacement, then is trying to present it to us like nothing's any different.
I will grant that it takes a couple seasons for the chemistry to build, but even factoring that in...the zombie the Beeb is showing us just does not work.
I dunno if this helps anyone understand but it's kind of like when Jon left Game Grumps, except if Arin also left and then Game Grumps Inc. hired two new guys who don't really know each other and told them to try and do the same kind of thing. And then they went 'what? it's still two guys playing video games, it's the same thing'
Chris Evans is a mess.
People watched it mostly for the trio not the cars.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50464694]I certainly don't think it's as bad as it's being made out to be.
Formula is the same with different presenters who aren't as quirky at Clarkson and co.[/QUOTE]
Thats the problem though.
Its not about the show's formula, its about the presenter's formula.
To explain it with a car comparison: its the same as expecting a mustang with an electrical engine as powerful as a Lada to be as good as a regular mustang with a big v8 that shreds the road.
[QUOTE=TheSoupNazi;50465039]Chris Evans is a mess.[/QUOTE]
Chris Evans is a big, fat mistake
[QUOTE=smurfy;50465008]I dunno if this helps anyone understand but it's kind of like when Jon left Game Grumps, except if Arin also left and then Game Grumps Inc. hired two new guys who don't really know each other and told them to try and do the same kind of thing. And then they went 'what? it's still two guys playing video games, it's the same thing'[/QUOTE]
Its as if they replaced Jon and Arin with Chris Evans.
:v:
[QUOTE=smurfy;50465096]Chris Evans is a big, fat mistake[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining?[/QUOTE]
Probably not. I like cars and all but car shows are generally super boring. Old new top gear sucked before James may came on the show and quite a while after that, but became fucking amazing.
[B]It really should point out and make it more obvious that it was competing with a show it was likely going to lose to last night[/B] ([del]the old top gear lost alot of audience share to it aswel IIRC[/del]), Soccer Aid was on ITV1 from 7pm till 10pm Top Gear was at 8PM when the match actually kicked off. Soccer Aid is a charity football game played by Ex professional Footballers and Celebrities which was watched by around 4.1 million people live.
People who don't even like football still watch it because of the stars in it (some of them are actually rather big names), so i wouldnt get the pitchforks ready just yet, wait till ITV have it's usual lineup back next week before you hang the noose around nu top gear.
(turns out Top gear never went up against Soccer aid before cause it was always at the end of the series, but Soccer aid has always beaten everything else on Sunday Nights in the past)
Evans is just fucking garbage. He's such an awful personality. The show would be a lot better if Leblanc was complimented with some better hosts
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;50464683]Is the show actually [I]bad,[/I] though? Like, setting aside its history with Jeremy and the gang, if the new Top Gear were a completely different car show airing its very first season, would you have found it entertaining? I can't help but wonder how much of the new TG hate is just bitter fans versus legitimate criticism. I haven't been able to see it, so I really can't judge for myself.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Clarkson, Hammond, and May, and am deffo looking forward to The Grand Tour, but I think it's a bit petty to expect Top Gear to completely fail with their departure. The formula and relationships may change, and it may not capture the same magic it did with the old gang, but it could still stand to be a very entertaining show in its own right.[/QUOTE]
As a former top gear fan, I actually really wanted the new top gear to succeed because why wouldn't I? Presumably the grand tour will be good so we'd get 2 good car shows. That, and I love Matt LeBlanc and Sabine I'm not as familiar with but have found really entertaining. But even with all that optimism and desire for the show to go well, I hated it. Chris was really the entire reason, he was shouty and annoying and honestly made me wish for the sweet release of death every time he opened his mouth. I tried really hard to watch the whole first episode for Matt and Sabine but I couldn't do it
Oh and even the first episode had lower views than every first episode dating back to 2005, you need to go all the way to 2004 to find a first episode of the show that had less viewers
Evans was just shouting in the debut episode, which was really grating on my ears and nerves. Matt LeBlanc is cool though, I don't mind him so much.
Just get Evans out of there, come on.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50465008]I dunno if this helps anyone understand but it's kind of like when Jon left Game Grumps, except if Arin also left and then Game Grumps Inc. hired two new guys who don't really know each other and told them to try and do the same kind of thing. And then they went 'what? it's still two guys playing video games, it's the same thing'[/QUOTE]
I think the worst part of that example is that it showed how shitty Arin was, as Danny is like, infinitely more interesting and funny.
Arin is a weirdly pretentious cockbag
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