[quote] The bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried babies were incinerated as clinical waste, with some even used to heat hospitals, an investigation has found.
Ten NHS trusts have admitted burning foetal remains alongside other rubbish while two others used the bodies in ‘waste-to-energy’ plants which generate power for heat.
Last night the Department of Health issued an instant ban on the practice which health minister Dr Dan Poulter branded ‘totally unacceptable.’[/quote]
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10717566/Aborted-babies-incinerated-to-heat-UK-hospitals.html[/url]
What in the fuck?
At least they put a stop to it
Still, that must of been a terrible job for whoever had to do it.
this reminds of the cremating facility (in germany?) which reclaimed heat from the burning to generate some power.
It's good to see hospitals recycling and reducing their carbon footprint.
So what will they do with them now?
I really hope conservatives don't use this as some kind of attack on the NHS.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44348389]So what will they do with them now?[/QUOTE]
Use them as food
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;44348389]So what will they do with them now?[/QUOTE]
Use the rest to fuel the giant robot, Abort-O-Tron-9000, which will enslave earth and kill us all.
God bless this new order.
I feel somewhat wrong in the head for saying this but... Why is it a bad thing?
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44348407]I feel somewhat wrong in the head for saying this but... Why is it a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
There is a lot of things wrong with burning a human being, alive or dead, to heat a building.
[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;44348401]Biohazard disposal.[/QUOTE]
What do you think "bio-hazard disposal" is? Bulk bio-hazardous material is ultimately incinerated.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]What's wrong with incinerating a human being to heat a building?[/QUOTE]
I'm kinda conflicted as well. But unborn fetuses do in most way fall under biological waste when you think about it. We make damn sure not to consider them human beings. Becase the pychological impact would be pretty bad.
This reminds me of that baby drop box thread.
This doesn't sit right with me, even though I don't really have an issue with abortion.
I mean, I don't know what else you're going to do with them, but...
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]What's wrong with incinerating a human being to heat a building?[/QUOTE]
The only thing I judge as being morally wrong in this is that their was no choice to the parents to decide what to do with the remains. If the person was getting an abortion to prevent a harmful upbringing and wasn't concerned about the remains, this would be the best method to deal with the remains. You would not have to deal with a long and insane amount of bureaucratic nonsense to dispose of remains, and at the same time you are lowering the amount of fossil-energy depletion, by using other energy creating methods.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44348407]I feel somewhat wrong in the head for saying this but... Why is it a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
An AI would definitely ask this question, but not a human being.
Please state your ID, Software version and intent.
[QUOTE=C.Barkington;44348444]An AI would definitely ask this question, but not a human being.
Please state your ID, Software version and intent.[/QUOTE]
JoeSkylynx.exe V.1, intent: Politico Bot on Sensationalist Headlines
~beep~ ~boop~
Jesus fuck the comments on that article.
[editline]25th March 2014[/editline]
Also "babies incinerated" surely is not a sensationalist title.
That's some satanic shit right there.
In a good way.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]What's wrong with incinerating a human being to heat a building?[/QUOTE]
Have you ever [I]met[/I] a child, much less a baby? I don't think you have, otherwise you'd not be opposed to this.
[QUOTE=Riller;44348482]Have you ever [I]met[/I] a child, much less a baby? I don't think you have, otherwise you'd not be opposed to this.[/QUOTE]
Sorry it was poorly worded.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]There is a lot of things wrong with burning a human being, alive or dead, to heat a building.[/QUOTE]
What's wrong with burning the dead ones? Just curious.
I came into this thread expecting a TheOnion article.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]There is a lot of things wrong with burning a human being, alive or dead, to heat a building.[/QUOTE]
Well, I mean, I have to admit it seems kinda unsettling to me too. But when I actually think about it what's going to be done with them now? Somewhere along the line they're probably going to be incinerated anyway, is it really more immoral somehow that they be used to provide heat?
Fucking metal.
[QUOTE=Gustafa;44348425]There is a lot of things wrong with burning a human being, alive or dead, to heat a building.[/QUOTE]
But it's not a human being, it's a bundle of stem cells. That's why it was allowed to be aborted. Callous as it sounds, it's a simple infection control policy, like most surgical or clinical equipment will be autoclaved or incinerated. The fact the heat from the incineration is used is irrelevant.
[QUOTE=Rubs10;44348469]That's some satanic shit right there.
In a good way.[/QUOTE]
With this current government going after the NHS a bit of satanic worship might be what keeps it going.
[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;44348407]I feel somewhat wrong in the head for saying this but... Why is it a bad thing?[/QUOTE]
apparently a majority of the parents weren't asked what they wanted to happen to the remains. not really sure what else you'd do with an aborted fetus other than get rid of it, but it's not really mine or anyone else's business. if they had asked for their consent for the fetus to be burned then i guess it's no problem
Are babies really a viable power source? Are they flammable enough that you get more heat from burning them than you put into the process?
[QUOTE=ralle105;44348542]Are babies really a viable power source? Are they flammable enough that you get more heat from burning them than you put into the process?[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I'd imagine not, it's a small amount of foetal cells. It's mostly the fact that they're burnt in the same furnace that disposes of all other potentially infectious material that the Telegraph decided to jump on as if it's actually a problem, whilst trying to push it's usual anti-NHS agenda. If it was a born baby or neonate, the parents would get the choice of what to do with it, but an aborted foetus doesn't count.
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