9000+ year old Monolith discovered underwater, dates back to before ice age. - Polidicks

[URL]http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/enormous-monolith-carved-9350-years-ago-found-under-mediterranean-sea/story-fnjwl1aw-1227476030047[/URL] [url]http://www.ibtimes.com/scientific-discovery-stonehenge-style-monolith-found-sicily-offers-clues-ancient-2045516[/url] [QUOTE]A 12-METRE monolith, hacked out of limestone by stone-age humans some nine thousand years ago, has been found at the bottom of the Mediterranean.The enormous stone totem, now split in two and sitting in the Sicilian Channel between Tunisia and Sicily, was hewed from a rocky outcrop some 300m away when the Mediterranean Sea was still a dry basin. It’s now under 40m of water.[/QUOTE] For those who don't know, when the ice age ended, all the water raised sea levels so much that large areas of land were put underwater. I've always guessed that there was evidence of cultures and potentially civilizations that existed before the ice age, in areas that are now sea. Would explain the Great Flood myth in a number of known civilizations.

[mEdia]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU4Rk0NATNs[/mEdia] but anyway's that's a cool find I hope we get more info like this on past cIvilizations

It was Ancient Aliens, guys. Humans were too stupid to move rocks back then, they needed levitation and wrist-mounted pulse beams. There's no other way this could exist except aliens that built pyramids to use as landing pads, that's why triangles are such a common shape!

[QUOTE=Xystus234;48421372]I've always guessed that there was evidence of cultures and potentially civilizations that existed before the ice age, in areas that are now sea. Would explain the Great Flood myth in a number of known civilizations.[/QUOTE] There used to be an entire "civilization" under the North Sea. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggerland[/url] Civilization in quotes because it's not like they were building Rome down there.

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[QUOTE=.Isak.;48421421]It was Ancient Aliens, guys. Humans were too stupid to move rocks back then, they needed levitation and wrist-mounted pulse beams. There's no other way this could exist except aliens that built pyramids to use as landing pads, that's why triangles are such a common shape![/QUOTE] so the Prothen's then time to get to the Mass Relay's ( mAss effect'. )

I am big on the belief that civilisation is older than we give credit for, this is awesome stuff.

Deep time is so freaky. Australian Aboriginal tribes have oral histories, verified by the geological record, going back over 10,000 years. They have names for mountains that have been below sea level for millenia. A fifth-century Japanese tomb was excavated and found to have a plate that could [I]only[/I] have been made in second-century Rome. Civilization was far more interconnected and much older than we've previously believed.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48421622]Australian Aboriginal tribes have oral histories, verified by the geological record, going back over 10,000 years. They have names for mountains that have been below sea level for millenia.[/QUOTE] It's awesome that you mention this, as I did a report/speech at university once on Dreaming stories that talked about meteorite impacts from thousands to tens of thousands of years ago that have been transmitted orally, and when scientists investigated, the stories led the scientists exactly to impact craters. You'd think that span of time's worth of "Chinese whispers" would have at least changed the critical details of the story, but no. I will also add that Dreaming stories included mega-fauna. It's a shame that Indigenous language and culture is dying in Australia.

disappointing that headlines will always call these "scientific discoveries" and sort them under their science sections when it's a historical and archaeological and anthropological discovery, which could all use a little more of their own publicity

[QUOTE=Xystus234;48421372]For those who don't know, when the ice age ended, all the water raised sea levels so much that large areas of land were put underwater.[/QUOTE] For those who don't know it was because of a large amount of ice that had been holding back water as it was slowly melting that cased this and later created the dead sea as a result and is why you can find a evidence of man below its depths.

I find it interesting that judging by the the size of the rock they moved and the holes they drilled that maybe extremely ancient civilizations were once much more advanced than we give them credit for. Maybe they had a wealth of knowledge comparative to our own today, but in different areas. Maybe they discovered and devoloped things we have yet to find. If you think about it, something like the end of an ice age would really fuck things up for us today and erase a lot. The survivors would eventually lose knowledge (how many of us know how to build a computer from raw materials?) over generations and what existing technology would really be left in 9,000 years for the future generations to find? Not much if anything really.

My professor has sidescan sonar data of the whole area, the are investigating mudslides in the region. Gotta ask him.

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;48421758]I find it interesting that judging by the the size of the rock they moved and the holes they drilled that maybe extremely ancient civilizations were once much more advanced than we give them credit for. Maybe they had a wealth of knowledge comparative to our own today, but in different areas. Maybe they discovered and devoloped things we have yet to find. If you think about it, something like the end of an ice age would really fuck things up for us today and erase a lot. The survivors would eventually lose knowledge (how many of us know how to build a computer from raw materials?) over generations and what existing technology would really be left in 9,000 years for the future generations to find? Not much if anything really.[/QUOTE] We already know this. There are tactics used to move stuff like the Stonehenge that we're unable to replicate. People readily underestimate our ancestors. They were equally as intelligent as we are. There's a very convincing theory that the Pyramids were constructed using an internal ramp and to balance out the weight above the burial chamber they used a sort of freight elevator with ropes, using pitch as a lubricant. It's unbelievable how complicated (yet totally realistic) these ideas are. The fact that people thousands of years ago made maps of wave patterns using sticks is absolutely astounding. They were equally as intelligent as we are, and they were able to use what they had available to make some incredible inventions.

I am under the impression that we underestimate ancient civilization by passing it off as 'oh they didn't have the tools we have now so they couldn't have done that' and then we find stuff like this, and watching those people's minds explode is extremely fun to watch.

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;48421758]I find it interesting that judging by the the size of the rock they moved and the holes they drilled that maybe extremely ancient civilizations were once much more advanced than we give them credit for. Maybe they had a wealth of knowledge comparative to our own today, but in different areas. Maybe they discovered and devoloped things we have yet to find. If you think about it, something like the end of an ice age would really fuck things up for us today and erase a lot. The survivors would eventually lose knowledge (how many of us know how to build a computer from raw materials?) over generations and what existing technology would really be left in 9,000 years for the future generations to find? Not much if anything really.[/QUOTE] Just think about Europe during the Roman age and what happened after it fell. It took 1000 years to catch up.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;48422221]Just think about Europe during the Roman age and what happened after it fell. It took 1000 years to catch up.[/QUOTE] Not necessarily. Europe made a lot of advances on some fronts, and had setbacks on others. But stuff like the saddle and plate armor were invented in the middle ages, as well as a whole lot of economic (scythes and windmills) as well as civic advances.

[QUOTE=AntonioR;48422221]Just think about Europe during the Roman age and what happened after it fell. It took 1000 years to catch up.[/QUOTE] Very little technology was lost during the collapse of Rome, and in many ways Medieval Europe was technologically more sophisticated than Rome.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48421622]Deep time is so freaky. Australian Aboriginal tribes have oral histories, verified by the geological record, going back over 10,000 years. They have names for mountains that have been below sea level for millenia. A fifth-century Japanese tomb was excavated and found to have a plate that could [I]only[/I] have been made in second-century Rome. Civilization was far more interconnected and much older than we've previously believed.[/QUOTE] i don't think it's hard to believe that that plate could end up in japan after 300 years

[QUOTE=SnakeHead;48421758] If you think about it, something like the end of an ice age would really fuck things up for us today and erase a lot. The survivors would eventually lose knowledge ([B]how many of us know how to build a computer from raw materials[/B]?) over generations and what existing technology would really be left in 9,000 years for the future generations to find? Not much if anything really.[/QUOTE] If by raw materials you mean motherboards, RAM sticks etc then it's pretty easy! But seriously, it's not like the end of an ice age comes all of a sudden, it is a process spanning thousands of years and hundreds of lifetimes. So i don't think there would be "survivors" of any sort, people would just have to move to yet unflooded locations or build dams where it is possible. Sure it would still be a devastating event, but i seriously doubt it can destroy the current civilization.

As a huge fan of 2001: A space oddyssey, I got a little too excited from reading this article.

So, a cyclopean monolith of eons past is found underwater. Dagon when?

[QUOTE=antianan;48422622]If by raw materials you mean motherboards, RAM sticks etc then it's pretty easy! But seriously, it's not like the end of an ice age comes all of a sudden, it is a process spanning thousands of years and hundreds of lifetimes. So i don't think there would be "survivors" of any sort, people would just have to move to yet unflooded locations or build dams where it is possible. Sure it would still be a devastating event, but i seriously doubt it can destroy the current civilization.[/QUOTE] In a way, the Ice Age isn't even over, it's just receeded to a point where it doesn't cover nearly any of civilization.

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They have found aluminium dating further back than the stone age. I think time and time again we have reached the iron age and that metallurgy and engineering has been a bouncing up and down for tens of thousands of years, I can imagine civilizations with extensive knowledge being wiped out by invaders or natural disasters and their technology being lost, making it all happen all over again. The native Americans still have tales of when they used to live underground during the ice age, and that underground city in Romania (?) could have possibly been used as an ice age city. Depending on when it was actually built.

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[QUOTE=Faunze;48423636]They have found aluminium dating further back than the stone age. I think time and time again we have reached the iron age and that metallurgy and engineering has been a bouncing up and down for tens of thousands of years, I can imagine civilizations with extensive knowledge being wiped out by invaders or natural disasters and their technology being lost, making it all happen all over again. The native Americans still have tales of when they used to live underground during the ice age, and that underground city in Romania (?) could have possibly been used as an ice age city. Depending on when it was actually built.[/QUOTE] There's no actual evidence of agrarian civilization (or metalworking either) prior to about 10,000 bc.