Outrage in Delhi after woman brutally gang raped on bus - protesters clash with police amid calls fo - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/495o.jpg[/img] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/awi7.jpg[/img] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/rjmg.jpg[/img] [img]http://imgkk.com/i/l0-i.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-20826070[/url] [quote=BBC News][B]Indian police have used tear gas and water cannons to keep back thousands of protesters marching in Delhi over the brutal gang rape of a young woman.[/B] Violence broke out as the protesters, mainly college students, tried to break through police barricades to march on the presidential palace. There has been outrage in India over the attack on a bus last Sunday that has left the 23-year-old woman in a critical condition in hospital. Six people have been arrested. The government has tried to halt the rising anger over the attack by announcing a series of measures intended to make Delhi safer for women. They include more police night patrols, checks on bus drivers and their assistants and the banning of buses with tinted windows or curtains. [B]'Sips of water'[/B] But the protesters say the government's pledge to seek life sentences for the attackers is not enough - many are calling for the death penalty. Some carried placards reading "Hang the Rapists" and "Save women. Save India" as they marched on Saturday. Junior home minister RPN Singh appealed for calm after the clashes broke out. "This is not a way to protest," he told India's CNN-IBN television. "Trying to storm buildings and breaking barricades is not a way to start a dialogue." The woman and her friend had been to watch a film when they boarded the bus in the Munirka area intending to travel to Dwarka in south-west Delhi. Police said she was raped for nearly an hour, both she and her companion were beaten with iron rods and thrown out of the moving bus into a Delhi street. Doctors said on Saturday that the woman remained in a critical but stable condition, but had been removed from a ventilator. "She is doing much better than yesterday," said BD Athani, superintendent of Safdarjung Hospital. The attack has prompted a week of candle-lit vigils and demonstrations amid some soul-searching about the safety of women in Delhi and other parts of the country. Police figures show that, in Delhi, a rape is reported on average every 18 hours and some form of sexual attack every 14 hours. Indian novelist Arundhati Roy said rape is seen as a "matter of feudal entitlement" in many parts of the country, and the reason this case had come to light is because the woman victim belongs to the affluent middle class. She said attitudes towards women need to change in India, because a change in the law only will protect middle class women, but "the violence against other women who are not entitled will continue".[/quote]

[QUOTE]But the protesters say the government's pledge to seek life sentences for the attackers is not enough - [B]many are calling for the death penalty.[/B][/QUOTE] life sentences is enough tbh, death penalty does nothing and the government shouldn't have the right to take away your life because of an action, they should have the right to detain you for as long as possible as long as it benefits society

"This world belongs to women" Ugh...

I'm glad there's been a serious response. Hopefully we can expect bolstered women's rights in the region in the near future.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38934046]"This world belongs to women" Ugh...[/QUOTE] you're tempting fate bub

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38934026]life sentences is enough tbh, death penalty does nothing and the government shouldn't have the right to take away your life because of an action, they should have the right to detain you for as long as possible as long as it benefits society[/QUOTE] Baby steps. If the death penalty now means more sympathy for women, then I'm okay with that. e: if you seriously think the abolishment of the death penalty is a more pressing issue than women's rights then you're a fucking moron

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38934046]"This world belongs to women" Ugh...[/QUOTE] "This world belongs to women t__" Presumably the t is short for too, and it's a fair comment to make, the world belongs to every gender.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38934026]life sentences is enough tbh, death penalty does nothing and the government shouldn't have the right to take away your life because of an action, they should have the right to detain you for as long as possible as long as it benefits society[/QUOTE] Nice job using a protest movement to push your moral standards.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38934046]"This world belongs to women" Ugh...[/QUOTE] No, it probably says "This world belongs to women too". You can clearly see the T

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38934133]No, it probably says "This world belongs to women too". You can clearly see the T[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Terminutter;38934088]"This world belongs to women t__" Presumably the t is short for too, and it's a fair comment to make, the world belongs to every gender.[/QUOTE] Fuck me, how did I miss that? [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [quote]Police figures show that, in Delhi, a rape is reported on average every 18 hours and some form of sexual attack every 14 hours. [/quote] Okay, that is fucking disturbing. Almost 2 rapes a day!

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38934133]No, it probably says "This world belongs to women too". You can clearly see the T[/QUOTE] And the side of the first O, of which few other sides of few other letters in the English alphabet look like that except Q, U, C, G, but if you have any ability to critically think or draw conclusions at all you would be able to eliminate those 4 letters as options.

I'm relieved that the protests aren't calling for the woman's death, as they would be in certain other countries.

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;38934163]I'm relieved that the protests aren't calling for the woman's death, as they would be in certain other countries.[/QUOTE] Honour murders and placing the value of a living human being to that of about 2 cows Yeah it definitely can get a [B]LOT [/B]worse

[QUOTE=Blanketspace;38934163]I'm relieved that the protests aren't calling for the woman's death, as they would be in certain other countries.[/QUOTE] The western world has plenty of those people too, except they just blame the victim.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38934139]Fuck me, how did I miss that? [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] Okay, that is fucking disturbing. Almost 2 rapes a day![/QUOTE] That is only the reported ones, it is probably much higher than that.

[QUOTE=melonmonkey;38934119]Nice job using a protest movement to push your moral standards.[/QUOTE] Well, if the protest movement is calling for the death penalty why is it wrong for him to suggest that is not the right course of action?

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;38934046]"This world belongs to women" Ugh...[/QUOTE] It clearly says "this world belongs to women [I]too[/I]" [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] whoops, late

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;38934026]life sentences is enough tbh, death penalty does nothing and the government shouldn't have the right to take away your life because of an action, they should have the right to detain you for as long as possible as long as it benefits society[/QUOTE] and then that woman's tax dollars pay to feed, clothe and shelter the men who raped her.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;38935011]and then that woman's tax dollars pay to feed, clothe and shelter the men who raped her.[/QUOTE] the other scenario* and then that women's tax dollars pay to feed, clothe and shelter the men who raped her before paying to kill them.

[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;38934641]Well, if the protest movement is calling for the death penalty why is it wrong for him to suggest that is not the right course of action?[/QUOTE] Cultural relativism.

anyway to equate lives in tax dollars, even rapists is a terrible thing to do.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;38935011]and then that woman's tax dollars pay to feed, clothe and shelter the men who raped her.[/QUOTE] you still got to pay tax for that + the execution, I honestly don't feel comfortable forking out for someones death shot

[QUOTE=NoDachi;38935115]the other scenario* and then that women's tax dollars pay to feed, clothe and shelter the men who raped her before paying to kill them.[/QUOTE] you think the price of lethal injection/electric chair is at all comparable to sustaining an entire human life? [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=fruxodaily;38935263]you still got to pay tax for that + the execution, I honestly don't feel comfortable forking out for someones death shot[/QUOTE] but you do feel comfortable paying to feed rapists? or buy them medication should they need it? sounds to me like you're just sheltered and don't want to face mortality.

Well death penalties are actually more costly in the long run, since they take longer. It's not just the price of a bullet

[QUOTE=Ericson666;38935417]Well death penalties are actually more costly in the long run, since they take longer. It's not just the price of a bullet[/QUOTE] I think you are confusing them for doing the death penalty the way we(United States) does it. We have such a long waiting period before they actually get killed so the defendant can appeal as many times as possible to stave off the chance he didn't do it. This is the real reason getting someone killed takes so much money and time here, because most of the time it is a state appointed attorney and the taxpayer pays them. Everything around Africa into India only have a 10 day waiting period and during that period the executioner would go to the victims family and ask them to forgive the defendant. If they don't forgive him, they throw him into the arena to be decapitated by the executioner. Death penalty is expensive in America, not else where in the world.

[QUOTE=Ericson666;38935417]Well death penalties are actually more costly in the long run, since they take longer. It's not just the price of a bullet[/QUOTE] I'm aware that death penalties take a lot of time, which I don't agree with, but you literally just said that killing somebody takes longer then letting them live until they die of natural causes.

[QUOTE=redshift2234;38935520]I think you are confusing them for doing the death penalty the way we(United States) does it. We have such a long waiting period before they actually get killed so the defendant can appeal as many times as possible to stave off the chance he didn't do it. This is the real reason getting someone killed takes so much money and time here, because most of the time it is a state appointed attorney and the taxpayer pays them. Everything around Africa into India only have a 10 day waiting period and during that period the executioner would go to the victims family and ask them to forgive the defendant. If they don't forgive him, they throw him into the arena to be decapitated by the executioner. Death penalty is expensive in America, not else where in the world.[/QUOTE] Would you prefer that we just shoot anyone and ask questions later? We have to be sure

[QUOTE=redshift2234;38935520]I think you are confusing them for doing the death penalty the way we(United States) does it. We have such a long waiting period before they actually get killed so the defendant can appeal as many times as possible to stave off the chance he didn't do it. This is the real reason getting someone killed takes so much money and time here, because most of the time it is a state appointed attorney and the taxpayer pays them. Everything around Africa into India only have a 10 day waiting period and during that period the executioner would go to the victims family and ask them to forgive the defendant. If they don't forgive him, they throw him into the arena to be decapitated by the executioner. Death penalty is expensive in America, not else where in the world.[/QUOTE] That doesn't make it right.

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;38935301]you think the price of lethal injection/electric chair is at all comparable to sustaining an entire human life?[/QUOTE] You realize it's the appeals process that makes the death penalty so expensive, not the method of execution right? [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Bruhmis;38935628]I'm aware that death penalties take a lot of time, which I don't agree with, but you literally just said that killing somebody takes longer then letting them live until they die of natural causes.[/QUOTE] I really hope you're not suggesting that a death penalty system without a proper appeals process is even remotely a good thing. You don't have a right to call yourself a civilized country if you can't even give your citizens the right to defend their life from a completely needless system of government sanctioned murder.

[QUOTE=Boxbot219;38935807]You realize it's the appeals process that makes the death penalty so expensive, not the method of execution right? [editline]22nd December 2012[/editline] I really hope you're not suggesting that a death penalty system without a proper appeals process is even remotely a good thing. You don't have a right to call yourself a civilized country if you can't even give your citizens the right to defend their life from a completely needless system of government sanctioned murder.[/QUOTE] the appeals aren't what takes so long. it's waiting for the appeals. they waste a lot of time, I don't know exactly how to fix it but I know it can be better. OBVIOUSLY I'm not suggesting we execute people without trials, it seems to me that almost half the people who get arrested haven't done anything wrong. I'm just saying leaving people on deathrow for decades at a time is stupid.