Man leaves to Syria with his ex-wife's 1 year old child, wife gets pissed and calls for the child to
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[quote]Meriam Rhaiem, 25, has demanded to the French authorities this saturday that her 23 months old daughter Assia may be given the status of hostage. Her husband has left to Syria with her daughter to fight among a jihadist group. "I want the French government to recognize Assia, a French 23 months old girl, as France's current youngest hostage, as she is indeed a hostage", said the woman during a press conference in Lyons.
"I want her to have this same hostage status as other hostages, whether they're journalists or religious people", added the girl's mother in the presence of her lawyer, Gabriel Versini-Bullara. The woman, resident of the Ain, said she was certain that her ex-husband with which she had started a divorce procedure and who is currently under an international arrest warrant is currently in Syria.
"His last call from mid-january came from a Syrian number. He said he did not want Assia to go back to France and would rather have her die a Martyr. He assured me that she was safe and sound and he gave her the phone, she kept asked for me: 'Mommy, mommy...', it was horrible", she explained . "Why are the authorities not recognizing her status in front of 66 million of French citizens when they know what's going on ?", she then asked.
"This is my daughter. She is French and I want the highest French authorities to react for her, because every second counts", insisted Meriam Rhaiem, who hopes to touch "public opinion" with her call.
Following this same goal, she has also announced the start of a petition and the upcoming organization of a "symbolic march for the children of our Republic" with other families of underage children currently on Syrian soil. On the 14 of October, after spending a day with her daughter, the father did not come back with her. He then drove out of France to Turkey, from which he called Meriam frequently asking her to join him. He had also announced his decision to cross the Turkey-Syria border with their daughter to join the Al-Nosra front, a jihadist group fighting against Bachar Al-Assad's regime.
According to lawyer Versini-Bullara, her husband has "radicalized after a trip to Mecca", for instance demanding that her wife may wear a veil, reproaching her that she had a job and that she was allowing their child to listen to music.[/quote]
[url=http://www.bfmtv.com/societe/elle-demande-statut-dotage-fille-emmenee-syrie-pere-738466.html]Source in French[/url]
Sorry for the piss-poor translation, the article isn't well written to begin with.
What a massive cunt. Hope the girl goes back to her mom safe and sound.
I had to read the title again because I thought it said a 'man leaves syria' didn't notice the to.
What a prick, I hope they do something to find her.
As much as I respect his personal decision to go fight against Assad, why the hell would you bring a child into it?
[quote]According to lawyer Versini-Bullara, her husband has "radicalized after a trip to Mecca", for instance demanding that her wife may wear a veil, reproaching her that she had a job and that she was allowing their child to listen to music.[/quote]
oh, he's a lunatic, that's why
really helping the image of the resistance MHMM
It's okay, allah will protect them from the syrian conflict.
[QUOTE=bitches;44331115]As much as I respect his personal decision to go fight against Assad, why the hell would you bring a child into it?
oh, he's a lunatic, that's why
really helping the image of the resistance MHMM[/QUOTE]
The worst thing is we've had so many god damn cases of people just leaving for Syria. Like a while ago two kids (and I mean two underage children) tried to take a plane to Syria to engage in the war. What the fuck.
is the conflict in Syria now some proving ground for extremists across the world or something.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;44332541]is the conflict in Syria now some proving ground for extremists across the world or something.[/QUOTE]
Apparently so. But hey, if Assad cleans up the crazies that heed the call, it's a win-win for the world. Hopefully they recover the little girl before she ends up being pushed out towards soldiers in a bomb vest.
I really hope they find her. Bringing a child into any warlike situation is a terrible idea.
I always find these kinds of cases fascinating.
People from very different backgrounds, and even countries, marry. They even have kids, all is well. Then one day the marriage falls apart, as some marriages do, and then what?
If you are Syrian and going to live in Syria, aren't you allowed to bring your child with you? If you're French, aren't you allowed to keep your child in France? Either way one parent will lose and lose big. The kid can't be in two places at once.
Factor in the danger of a wartime environment and it's even crazier. I think this particular guy is an example of a guy who feels powerless in his every day life. That's why he's going to fight. He's trying to prove, if only to himself, that he means something, he's someone important in this world. Part of this power trip is taking the kid. He's the man dammit, if he says the kid goes with him, the kid goes with him. What's best for the kid means nothing to him compared to his need to establish control.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;44333879]I always find these kinds of cases fascinating.
People from very different backgrounds, and even countries, marry. They even have kids, all is well. Then one day the marriage falls apart, as some marriages do, and then what?
If you are Syrian and going to live in Syria, aren't you allowed to bring your child with you? If you're French, aren't you allowed to keep your child in France? Either way one parent will lose and lose big. The kid can't be in two places at once.
Factor in the danger of a wartime environment and it's even crazier. I think this particular guy is an example of a guy who feels powerless in his every day life. That's why he's going to fight. He's trying to prove, if only to himself, that he means something, he's someone important in this world. Part of this power trip is taking the kid. He's the man dammit, if he says the kid goes with him, the kid goes with him. What's best for the kid means nothing to him compared to his need to establish control.[/QUOTE]
Both are French and of similar background, with arabic/muslim culture. The husband just sort of flipped out at some point and decided to go fight in Syria.
What I'm really interested in is how people can somehow manage to use a religion to fuck people up so badly, and how these same people actually get indoctrinated in it. This isn't some sort of convoluted cult or sect where the hidden agenda is hard to find, it's really, REALLY clear you are readying yourself for death the moment you accept joining radical islam.
I think it's a symbiotic thing. The sort of person who'd go 'looking for answers' is primed to be manipulated and they probably give off that vibe. In turn, the sort of people doing the manipulating are just waiting for these people, like predators. If you're a broken person there are people out there who can see it, and not all of them are nice people.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;44333879]I always find these kinds of cases fascinating.
People from very different backgrounds, and even countries, marry. They even have kids, all is well. Then one day the marriage falls apart, as some marriages do, and then what?
If you are Syrian and going to live in Syria, aren't you allowed to bring your child with you? If you're French, aren't you allowed to keep your child in France? Either way one parent will lose and lose big. The kid can't be in two places at once.
Factor in the danger of a wartime environment and it's even crazier. I think this particular guy is an example of a guy who feels powerless in his every day life. That's why he's going to fight. He's trying to prove, if only to himself, that he means something, he's someone important in this world. Part of this power trip is taking the kid. He's the man dammit, if he says the kid goes with him, the kid goes with him. What's best for the kid means nothing to him compared to his need to establish control.[/QUOTE]
but he's not going there to live he's going there to fight and he's willingly taking his daughter into a warzone which he is not allowed to do
I can never understand what there is about Islam (or christianity) that will make a person do something like this. ya his situation being Arabic/French is piss poor, the French have a huge problem there, but really to want to go into a warzone and drag your daughter in there like she is a piece of luggage. she is a human being and a very young and scared girl in a place where civilians are bombed, gassed, and sniped in the 5-6 way crossfire.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;44332541]is the conflict in Syria now some proving ground for extremists across the world or something.[/QUOTE]
Radical Muslims, mercs, and people who are just looking for a scrap are heading out for Syria.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44336759]I can never understand what there is about Islam (or christianity) that will make a person do something like this. ya his situation being Arabic/French is piss poor, the French have a huge problem there, but really to want to go into a warzone and drag your daughter in there like she is a piece of luggage. she is a human being and a very young and scared girl in a place where civilians are bombed, gassed, and sniped in the 5-6 way crossfire.[/QUOTE]
If anything it sounds like an extreme case of the "depressed father kills his family then commits suicide" scenario, except instead of just shooting himself and his kids, he goes into a warzone with a year-old toddler to get himself and the kid killed with the impression that it wasn't for nothing. Dying a martyr's better than dying a nameless person that won't be remembered in a month for some people.k
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