• Europe Bans American Apples: Anti-browning Chemicals Probably cause Cancer
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[url]http://gawker.com/europe-to-america-your-apples-are-poisonous-1569046002[/url] [url]http://www.slate.com/articles/video/video/2014/04/u_s_apples_banned_in_europe_does_diphenylamine_or_dpa_make_american_apples.html[/url] [QUOTE]Shots fired: in a move to protect the health of its citizens, Europe has ostensibly banned American apples from ever making it to their grocery store shelves. Following regulations by the European Food Safety Authority, our apples, which are too high in residues of DPA, won't make it across the ocean. As was reported in Mother Jones, the ban on American apples comes from a new regulation that says any apple with a higher DPA (or diphenylamine) count of 0.1 parts per million is potentially harmful. In typical American food protection style (or, perhaps, lack thereof), the EPA Office of Pesticides said they'd make no move to changing regulations, as they aren't sure yet what the problem is. The EPA currently allows up to 10 ppm DPA residues for homegrown apples, which is 100 times that of Europe's regulation. And what is it exactly that DPA does? It prevents a brown "scald" from affecting fruit that have been stored for long periods of time[/QUOTE] Seems like an exaggeration
Quite a bit of an overreaction to a single inconclusive study. Oh well.
Chinese Apples are safer though. You can even taste it.
It's alright Europe, you can have our apples! Love, Canada
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;44682931]Quite a bit of a overreaction to a single inconclusive study. Oh well.[/QUOTE] This came up in my critical thinking class on the subject of fracking; if something is suspected to be harmful do we keep doing it until it's proven harmful or do we stop doing it and resume when it is proven safe?
[QUOTE=Dr.C;44682963]This came up in my critical thinking class on the subject of fracking; if something is suspected to be harmful do we keep doing it until it's proven harmful or do we stop doing it and resume when it is proven safe?[/QUOTE] Morally, you stop and wait. Fiscally, you keep going until told otherwise.
"Oh no my apples turn brown after cut, better put chemicals in them" What the fuck America
[QUOTE=Géza!;44683088]"Oh no my apples turn brown after cut, better put chemicals in them" What the fuck America[/QUOTE] Pretty much everything has preservatives in it nowadays, it's not just us that does it... [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Europe has much stricter standards, a lot of food and medicine legal here isn't legal there.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44683100]Pretty much everything has preservatives in it nowadays, it's not just us that does it... [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Europe has much stricter standards, a lot of food and medicine legal here isn't legal there.[/QUOTE] (Boy am I glad for that)
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44683100]Pretty much everything has preservatives in it nowadays, it's not just us that does it... [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Europe has much stricter standards, a lot of food and medicine legal here isn't legal there.[/QUOTE] It's actually hard to find stuff with preservatives here, a great number of products have something like 'NO ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS, NO PRESERVATIVES' stickered on them. In particular, alot of lollies lack artificial flavours, and alot of breads lack preservatives (can't speak for loaves below <$3, I always buy the decent $4 loaves).
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44683100]Pretty much everything has preservatives in it nowadays, it's not just us that does it... [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Europe has much stricter standards, a lot of food and medicine legal here isn't legal there.[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly, most milk from the USA isn't allowed to be sold in europe since it contains excess hormones and other shit.
Pears are better anyway.
[QUOTE=Coffee;44683138]If I recall correctly, most milk from the USA isn't allowed to be sold in europe since it contains excess hormones and other shit.[/QUOTE] A lot of the milk in America is treated with anti-biotics (which some people can be allergic to) and the cows are sometimes given hormones (which can have adverse effects on some people) and so the milk can sometimes be dangerous for some people.
My friend who visited America told me that most bread there was really sweet. Is there any truth to that ? If so, why would you make bread sweet ? Sounds quite disgusting actually.
I don't even know if this DPA stuff even works. Bought some expensive as fuck apples( roughly $3.50 per lb) a while back and the cores browned after a week of storage at room temperature. Yes, loads of hormones and such are added to just about every food type out there that isn't processed to hell and back. Getting "organic" hormone-free milk is possible, but thanks to capitalism it's at least $1.50 more per gallon.
Ban cigarettes?
[QUOTE=demoTron;44683217]My friend who visited America told me that most bread there was really sweet. Is there any truth to that ? If so, why would you make bread sweet ? Sounds quite disgusting actually.[/QUOTE] Depends on brand and type usually. Some bread is really shitty and feels like you're eating plastic. Others are really good and have a lot of flavor without being overly sweet or bitter. Then there's the "gluten-free" craze, and that just tastes like pressed sawdust. Bread is such a broad term that it could stand for hundreds if not thousands of variants. We usually buy sliced store brand loaves, which i describe as a similar taste to french bread(store brand), but is softer and is a tiny, tiny bit sweeter, but barely enough to notice. I'd hardly call it really sweet.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;44683263]Ban cigarettes?[/QUOTE] Alternatively force them to sell apples with "MAY CAUSE CANCER" tags
[QUOTE=demoTron;44683217]My friend who visited America told me that most bread there was really sweet. Is there any truth to that ? If so, why would you make bread sweet ? Sounds quite disgusting actually.[/QUOTE] As has been said there's literally hundreds (possibly thousands) of bread variants in the US. You'd need to narrow it down to the type and brand.
[QUOTE=demoTron;44683217]My friend who visited America told me that most bread there was really sweet. Is there any truth to that ? If so, why would you make bread sweet ? Sounds quite disgusting actually.[/QUOTE] Yeah, when I went, almost all of the bread was slightly yellow and tasted slightly of brioche.
[QUOTE=Géza!;44683088]"Oh no my apples turn brown after cut, better put chemicals in them" What the fuck America[/QUOTE] It's because of the short grow season for apples. They can't be grown year round and there was a market for them to be their year round. Capitalism 101. How can we make more profit? Extend our products shelf life. [QUOTE=CrumbleShake;44683520]Yeah, when I went, almost all of the bread was slightly yellow and tasted slightly of brioche.[/QUOTE] This usually applies to 'white' bread. I prefer wheat over 'white' and 'rye' for the taste. [url=http://www.bbcamerica.com/mind-the-gap/2012/11/06/food-and-drink-10-things-that-taste-different-in-the-u-s/]BBC America - Food and Drink: 10 Things That Taste Different in the U.S.[/url]
[QUOTE=zombini;44683250]I don't even know if this DPA stuff even works. Bought some expensive as fuck apples( roughly $3.50 per lb) a while back and the cores browned after a week of storage at room temperature. Yes, loads of hormones and such are added to just about every food type out there that isn't processed to hell and back. Getting "organic" hormone-free milk is possible, but thanks to capitalism it's at least $1.50 more per gallon.[/QUOTE] What's wrong with just keeping apples in the fridge. Never had a problem with them.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;44682941]Chinese Apples are safer though. You can even taste it.[/QUOTE] Yeah the moderate dusting of unspecified particulate matter from Chinese factories gives them that extra kick.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;44683100]Pretty much everything has preservatives in it nowadays, it's not just us that does it... [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Also Europe has much stricter standards, a lot of food and medicine legal here isn't legal there.[/QUOTE] Yes having lower mercury levels in our water is really nice.
USA food regulation is terrible, we performed an experiment on salmon in my bio class to see the mercury content of them and if their origin is true to the label, out of like 5 only one of them didn't contain any mercury and came from where it was suppose to. The rest we tracked down to Chinese fish farms and one contained your yearly maximum of mercury content. They all had the FDA seal of approval and all that shit too, I never ate fish since.
[QUOTE=Saxon;44684061]USA food regulation is terrible, we performed an experiment on salmon in my bio class to see the mercury content of them and if their origin is true to the label, out of like 5 only one of them didn't contain any mercury and came from where it was suppose to. The rest we tracked down to Chinese fish farms and one contained your yearly maximum of mercury content. They all had the FDA seal of approval and all that shit too, I never ate fish since.[/QUOTE] The large majority of groundwater in China is hazardous from industry dumping anything into rivers or just straight up injecting waste into the ground. It's no real surprise that fish have mercury in them, they probably have other highly nasty things in them that you didn't test for.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;44683040]Morally, you stop and wait. Fiscally, you keep going until told otherwise.[/QUOTE] I'm going with the fiscal option kthnx.[QUOTE=Antdawg;44683134]It's actually hard to find stuff with preservatives here, a great number of products have something like 'NO ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS, NO PRESERVATIVES' stickered on them. [/QUOTE] lol the sticker don't mean shit.
I [i]never[/i] knew that they did that to apples. Wellp, that's another chemical compound that I have to learn about now. Good on Europe for keeping the GMOs out, though. I've read about the studies a lot, and I could tell you guys that it probably doesn't cause cancer. However, they are worrying about the plants themselves and their survivability. If we are not careful, we could end up wiping out whole species of plants. This apple thing doesn't seem that volatile, though. It's not like they're changing the apples' genes to produce more of it. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Oh shit, I just took in the shape of the molecule. Though there has been no conclusive study (as always with cancer), there have been ample studies that point out correlations between carcinogens and having certain amounts phenyl rings. The thing is, however, that its generally the chemical with one phenyl ring that is the most cancerous. This one has two, so it's better. I know it's counter-intuitive, but that's the way cancer seems to roll.
Most of the apples I buy here in UK supermarkets are marked produce of France or Belgium anyway.
Fuck american apples. I grow my own, bitches.
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